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kybuck1
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Aug-20-16, 
03:08 PM (MST)
"elk shot placement 2016"

Alright guys, I think we all learned a lot about shot placement with the older post and vitals area. Lets do the above scenario at 45 yds with archery equipment. Where are you guys putting your pin??

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: elk shot p...  WapitiBob      Aug-20-16   1 
 RE: elk shot p...  DW      Aug-20-16   2 
 RE: elk shot p...  kybuck1      Aug-20-16   3 
  RE: elk shot p...  WapitiBob      Aug-20-16   4 
   RE: elk shot p...  Hokkaido      Aug-21-16   5 
    RE: elk shot p...  nvbones      Aug-21-16   7 
    RE: elk shot p...  mtmuley      Aug-21-16   8 
    RE: elk shot p...  labby1      Apr-06-17   13 
   RE: elk shot p...  bowhunt      Aug-21-16   6 
    RE: elk shot p...  berrysblast...      Aug-22-16   9 
    RE: elk shot p...  Zeke      Aug-23-16   10 
     RE: elk shot p...  twsnow18      Mar-27-17   11 
 RE: elk shot p...  Joe2Kool      Apr-01-17   12 
 RE: elk shot p...  Deepcolor      Apr-07-17   14 
  RE: elk shot p...  DW      Apr-07-17   15 
 RE: elk shot p...  Deepcolor      Apr-08-17   16 
 RE: elk shot p...  manny53      Aug-13-17   17 
  RE: elk shot p...  huntin50      Aug-14-17   18 
   RE: elk shot p...  BeanMan      Aug-14-17   19 

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WapitiBob
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Aug-20-16, 
03:50 PM (MST)
1. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

LAST EDITED ON Aug-20-16 AT 03:53 PM (MST)

Never needed to shoot one that far away. If he was at 10 I'd put it in the < and watch him fall. Just under mid body, left of the crease. Near leg is back a bit, right of the crease is flirting with liver.

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Aug-20-16, 
06:59 PM (MST)
2. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

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kybuck1
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Aug-20-16, 
08:13 PM (MST)
3. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

Every time I see those anatomy pics I always think about shooting the crease and shooting mid height. Seem logical to me to stay clear of that front shoulder if it drops low?? I tried to throw out a longer shot that one might take and see how you might adjust in terms of margin of error.

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WapitiBob
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Aug-20-16, 
11:04 PM (MST)
4. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

Not my dots but you can see the leg structure.

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Hokkaido
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Aug-21-16, 
09:18 AM (MST)
5. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

The pic just above me..with the cow feeding to the right, wow that's a good one. We need to be not looking so much at the shoulder, but more at the relationship between the brisket and the end of the animal. That's how you tell where the good stuff is. The shoulder moves with two radiuses even! The brisket never moves. Think about it.

I always get a kick out of guys saying stuff like " Dag gumm er, I put dat sucker right behind the shoulda. We looked and looked but neva found him"
Not to make fun of anyone's accent BTW... But if I were to... I would make fun of the type of guuber that makes rokslide home, it would go something like this....
" (accent from Martian on Looney Tunes, you know, with the Spartan helmet etc)

Well gee Larry, I cannot believe things have worked out this way. You see I have been reading techniques used by those highly educated twats on rokslide for many months. In fact I just studied how an interesting thread about the complicity of storing toilet paper in one's rucksack. According to their highly knowledgeable and mostly compostable thoughts, I should be able to wear the kuiu gear and be invisible to all living creatures. It cannot be our fault in any way possible that my shot just behind the shoulder failed. I am a perfect hunter, follow all the rules and have absolutely no common sense. This animal did not play by the rules and therefore his suffering has no bearing on me.

But enough of laughing.. hehe.... After a couple decades of shooting deer, and I'm well over a thousand by now......the place to aim is not just simply behind the shoulder.... But instead it is 1/4 to 1/5 of the distance from the brisket to the ass on the OPPOSING side of the animal. If you get that right..you'll be notching tags.

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Aug-21-16, 
02:55 PM (MST)
7. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

I happen to like rokslide, each forum has its ups and downs and people with diarrhea of the mouth like your self are one of the downsides to this forum. Don't come on here bashing other forums with 69 posts. Everything you said is valid but you just had to add all the other BS in.

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mtmuley
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Aug-21-16, 
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8. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

>The pic just above me..with the
>cow feeding to the right,
>wow that's a good one.
>We need to be not
>looking so much at the
>shoulder, but more at the
>relationship between the brisket and
>the end of the animal.
>That's how you tell where
>the good stuff is. The
>shoulder moves with two radiuses
>even! The brisket never moves.
>Think about it.
>
>I always get a kick out
>of guys saying stuff like
>" Dag gumm er, I
>put dat sucker right behind
>the shoulda. We looked and
>looked but neva found him"
>
>Not to make fun of anyone's
>accent BTW... But if I
>were to... I would make
>fun of the type of
>guuber that makes rokslide home,
>it would go something like
>this....
>" (accent from Martian on Looney
>Tunes, you know, with the
>Spartan helmet etc)
>
>Well gee Larry, I cannot believe
>things have worked out this
>way. You see I have
>been reading techniques used by
>those highly educated twats on
>rokslide for many months. In
>fact I just studied how
>an interesting thread about the
>complicity of storing toilet paper
>in one's rucksack. According to
>their highly knowledgeable and mostly
>compostable thoughts, I should be
>able to wear the kuiu
>gear and be invisible to
>all living creatures. It cannot
>be our fault in any
>way possible that my shot
>just behind the shoulder failed.
>I am a perfect hunter,
>follow all the rules and
>have absolutely no common sense.
>This animal did not play
>by the rules and therefore
>his suffering has no bearing
>on me.
>
>But enough of laughing.. hehe.... After
>a couple decades of shooting
>deer, and I'm well over
>a thousand by now......the place
>to aim is not just
>simply behind the shoulder.... But
>instead it is 1/4 to
>1/5 of the distance from
>the brisket to the ass
>on the OPPOSING side of
>the animal. If you get
>that right..you'll be notching tags.
>
Dumbass alert. mtmuley

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labby1
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Apr-06-17, 
08:43 AM (MST)
13. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

>The pic just above me..with the
>cow feeding to the right,
>wow that's a good one.
>We need to be not
>looking so much at the
>shoulder, but more at the
>relationship between the brisket and
>the end of the animal.
>That's how you tell where
>the good stuff is. The
>shoulder moves with two radiuses
>even! The brisket never moves.
>Think about it.
>
>I always get a kick out
>of guys saying stuff like
>" Dag gumm er, I
>put dat sucker right behind
>the shoulda. We looked and
>looked but neva found him"
>
>Not to make fun of anyone's
>accent BTW... But if I
>were to... I would make
>fun of the type of
>guuber that makes rokslide home,
>it would go something like
>this....
>" (accent from Martian on Looney
>Tunes, you know, with the
>Spartan helmet etc)
>
>Well gee Larry, I cannot believe
>things have worked out this
>way. You see I have
>been reading techniques used by
>those highly educated twats on
>rokslide for many months. In
>fact I just studied how
>an interesting thread about the
>complicity of storing toilet paper
>in one's rucksack. According to
>their highly knowledgeable and mostly
>compostable thoughts, I should be
>able to wear the kuiu
>gear and be invisible to
>all living creatures. It cannot
>be our fault in any
>way possible that my shot
>just behind the shoulder failed.
>I am a perfect hunter,
>follow all the rules and
>have absolutely no common sense.
>This animal did not play
>by the rules and therefore
>his suffering has no bearing
>on me.
>
>But enough of laughing.. hehe.... After
>a couple decades of shooting
>deer, and I'm well over
>a thousand by now......the place
>to aim is not just
>simply behind the shoulder.... But
>instead it is 1/4 to
>1/5 of the distance from
>the brisket to the ass
>on the OPPOSING side of
>the animal. If you get
>that right..you'll be notching tags.
>


two decades and 1000 deer. WOW we only get one or two tags per year where I am from. 50 per year seems like a lot. Change your name to Great White Hunter

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bowhunt
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Aug-21-16, 
09:20 AM (MST)
6. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

Straight up the leg about a foot and let it rip.
Most people shoot way too far back.

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berrysblaster
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Aug-22-16, 
06:09 PM (MST)
9. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

Right between the eyes and then post the pic on social media, that's how it's done in Utah anyways....

I'd venture to think that anywhere just behind that shoulder would do the trick, but I'm no expert

https://www.facebook.com/strawberrybayoutfitters

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Zeke
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Aug-23-16, 
12:28 PM (MST)
10. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

>Straight up the leg about a
>foot and let it rip.
>
>Most people shoot way too far
>back.

Yep, at that angle this is the best medicine for sure.

I think right in the "pocket" would work too and isn't too far back but that's as far back as I'd want to go. Might be a bit easier to get good penetration at the crease or pocket with an arrow.

I opt to go forward a little more with a gun and back into the crease with a bow but I don't know if that's "best" but it works for me.

Zeke


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twsnow18
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Mar-27-17, 
09:16 PM (MST)
11. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

The problem with these "where to aim" pictures is that they are always too zoomed in. At 350 yards through my 16x scope or at 45 yards with my bow, you can't see that level of detail.

On a 20+ power scope you probably can.

I always try to "pick a spot" the best I can but that's not always realistic. A lot of guys hunt with a 3-9x or a 4-12x. At 400 yards the best you can do is follow the front leg up about 40% of the way and let her rip. None of this measuring and shooting 1.75" back from the crease or 5.5" up from the brisket etc.

If I'm close enough to see detail, I think I usually follow the back of the front leg up the critter about 35-40%. But I usually black out so I don't know for sure

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Apr-01-17, 
08:03 PM (MST)
12. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

I saw this post earlier but couldn't find it later. Now I'm posting on it so I can find it again!!

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Deepcolor
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Apr-07-17, 
03:14 PM (MST)
14. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

This elk ran maybe 40 yds and tipped over, I have modified my aiming point after watching this shot.

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DW
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Apr-07-17, 
10:06 PM (MST)
15. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

Deepcolor you've made this comment on a couple threads now, modify it how?

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Apr-08-17, 
09:09 AM (MST)
16. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

I have lost 2 elk to what I thought was perfect shot placement. Right behind the elbow and slightly above which I thought would be top of the heart and bottom of the lungs. I did find one of these Bulls about 10 days and 1.5 miles away hiding under a flock of crows. Both shots were under 15 yards and broadside. Maybe they were too low in the chest cavity and missed the important stuff.

When my son shot the cow above I panicked for about 2 seconds over a bad shot and then she started to stumble. It was pretty cool to see just how fast that arrow did its job.

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manny53
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Aug-13-17, 
01:47 AM (MST)
17. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

if ur as impatient as i go to the 1:8 minute mark and see the shot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrWYuh_s1RQ

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huntin50
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Aug-14-17, 
04:55 PM (MST)
18. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-17 AT 04:57 PM (MST)

frontal shots in most cases are bad. Double lung is a better shot. If a bull had his leg back, I would try and wait until he was in a better position at 45 yards especially.

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Aug-14-17, 
08:37 PM (MST)
19. "RE: elk shot placement 2016"

I'd like my bull in this scenario to take one step forward with the left leg and uncover the heart area a little better. 45 yards is a far shot for me.

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