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pinoche
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Dec-20-16, 
09:43 AM (MST)
"Wasatch Private Elk"

Anybody taking advantage of the private land OTC cow tags this year?

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Wasatch Pr...  Vanilla      Dec-20-16   1 
  RE: Wasatch Pr...  pinoche      Dec-20-16   2 
   RE: Wasatch Pr...  Shadow      Dec-20-16   3 
    RE: Wasatch Pr...  travishunte...      Dec-20-16   4 
     RE: Wasatch Pr...  Zeke      Dec-21-16   5 
      RE: Wasatch Pr...  Vanilla      Dec-21-16   6 
       RE: Wasatch Pr...  RoadlessHun...      Dec-21-16   7 
        RE: Wasatch Pr...  deerslayer88      Dec-21-16   8 
         RE: Wasatch Pr...  predator      Dec-22-16   9 
          RE: Wasatch Pr...  Wasatch      Dec-22-16   10 
         RE: Wasatch Pr...  Silentstalk...      Dec-23-16   11 
          RE: Wasatch Pr...  Cooper      Dec-23-16   12 

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Vanilla
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Dec-20-16, 
11:52 AM (MST)
1. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

You know anyone that wants hunters to come kill a couple elk?

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pinoche
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Dec-20-16, 
05:48 PM (MST)
2. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

You'd think there would be lots of private land owners especially the ones in Heber begging people to come shoot them. Guess the depredation problem isn't as bad as they complain it to be.

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Shadow
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Dec-20-16, 
06:07 PM (MST)
3. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

I think a lot of people would, if they had connections to hunt the private lands without paying an arm and leg to do it. If I had to pay even $500 for a trespass fee to shoot a cow, I'd buy a quarter beef, a 30 box and stay home to watch football.

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travishunter3006
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Dec-20-16, 
10:04 PM (MST)
4. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

They issued 12,000 private land tags @ $50 a piece they made $600,000 dollars from sportsman but did NOTHING to help sportsman gain access to private lands. People bought these tags hoping to find access but I guarantee the majority of those who bought a tag won't ever hunt due to lack of access issues.

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Zeke
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Dec-21-16, 
10:18 AM (MST)
5. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

>They issued 12,000 private land tags
>@ $50 a piece they
>made $600,000 dollars from sportsman
>but did NOTHING to help
>sportsman gain access to private
>lands. People bought these tags
>hoping to find access but
>I guarantee the majority of
>those who bought a tag
>won't ever hunt due to
>lack of access issues.


Yep, pretty safe bet!
Zeke


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Vanilla
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Dec-21-16, 
12:55 PM (MST)
6. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-16 AT 05:57 PM (MST)

Well, that is assuming all the permits were actually purchased, which is not the case. As of this writing, there were 5,928 private land permits available on the Wasatch units alone.

The state is not making much off this. But I do wish they were able to facilitate connections between hunters and landowners.

***EDIT: There were 6,450 private elk tags allocated to the Wasatch. So when I checked earlier, only 522 had been purchased. Or in other words, 8% of the tags, or...hardly any. For this to have the desired effect, there HAS to be a lot more hunting on the private lands. But I'm skeptical it will happen.

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Dec-21-16, 
05:03 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

One good thing may come from the DWR offering so many landowner tags. If the landowners don't let hunters kill the Elk they can come back later and increase the Elk herd and tell the landowners they had their chance now we're upping the # of elk on the unit.

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Dec-21-16, 
10:44 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

>One good thing may come from
>the DWR offering so many
>landowner tags. If the
>landowners don't let hunters kill
>the Elk they can come
>back later and increase the
>Elk herd and tell the
>landowners they had their chance
>now we're upping the #
>of elk on the unit.
>
I hope they cut the landowners off and give them a big middle finger when they call and complain about the elk on their land. This lets pay the landowners for the damage crap when they won't allow hunting on the land for the game that is doing the damage is asinine its the landowners way to get a guaranteed paycheck year in year out.

“If men were angels, no government would be
necessary.” John Adams

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predator
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Dec-22-16, 
00:03 AM (MST)
9. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

This would be why Chalk Creek is also always undersubscribed. Unless you are from there, you can't get permission. I spent an entire summer in Coalville taking with business owners, knocking on doors in the canyon and offering to work for the ability to trespass. Not one. At least there, it seems you must be from Summit County, not from the 'city'. I ate the tag and sent a scathing hunt report back to the DWR saying exactly what you all have pointed out- if the elk are such a problem for the landowners that they need to offer 600 tags a year, then the DWR/landowners should at least come up with a plan to allow trespass. Or the hunt is pointless.

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Wasatch
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Dec-22-16, 
02:23 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

Here's a big herd on the Red Ledges just outside of Heber. This was from Yesterday morning. Now, if someone could just get permission...!

https://www.facebook.com/redledgesrealty/videos/740159432805771/

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Dec-23-16, 
02:18 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

>>One good thing may come from
>>the DWR offering so many
>>landowner tags. If the
>>landowners don't let hunters kill
>>the Elk they can come
>>back later and increase the
>>Elk herd and tell the
>>landowners they had their chance
>>now we're upping the #
>>of elk on the unit.
>>
>I hope they cut the landowners
>off and give them a
>big middle finger when they
>call and complain about the
>elk on their land. This
>lets pay the landowners for
>the damage crap when they
>won't allow hunting on the
>land for the game that
>is doing the damage is
>asinine its the landowners way
>to get a guaranteed paycheck
>year in year out.
>
>“If men were angels, no government
>would be
>necessary.” John Adams

I admire the committe for trying but until the DWR puts some teeth to these hunts noone will be allowed on the private land. If that remains the case, not 1$ should be given to them for depredation or damage.

I respect landownership and believe they have every right in the world to deny access. But, Its a two way street. IMO, You cant deny access and then demand the public pay for damages due to wildlife.
I have a son who did not draw a single tag including antlerless who I would buy a tag for tomorrow if there was access. Unfortunately I cannot justify paying $500+ for access.

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Dec-23-16, 
10:59 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Wasatch Private Elk"

What deerslayer said +1

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