Guide costs?

Wiszard · Nov 9, 2017

I've got enough points in Nevada to draw a northern Nevada bull tag and I was wondering how the guide thing works and what a general cost is to hire a guide. Is there a difference between a guide and an outfitter? Does a guide simply get you to the areas that they know hold game or will most of them have specific bulls "picked out?" I would be considering hiring a guide to get me into the areas that hold elk...not specifically to go shoot a particular bull. I'd be hiring him for his knowledge of the unit. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

Steve

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2lumpy · Nov 9, 2017

Typically, now days, a guide works for a licensed outfitter. You pay the outfitter, the outfitter pays the guide and you tip the guiding according to your conscious.

In some cases you can hire a packer, horses, goat, lama, to take you into back country of their choice or your choice, depending on the packer's offerings.

I've only hunted with a outfitter/guide a couple times. In both cases I did as much spotting, and locating as my guides. My son is a guide, he says it depends on the client, some are good hunters/spotters others don't know how and don't care to learn, leaving everything but the shooting to the guide. When a hunt with a new client begins a guide never knows what to expect from the client, so he prepares to do everything and if a hard hunting, skilled hunter client shows up, their hunt and their time together is enhanced..

Cost to the client is the same.

DC

Willametteriveroutlaw · Nov 9, 2017

>I've got enough points in Nevada
>to draw a northern Nevada
>bull tag and I was
>wondering how the guide thing
>works and what a general
>cost is to hire a
>guide. Is there a difference
>between a guide and an
>outfitter? Does a guide simply
>get you to the areas
>that they know hold game
>or will most of them
>have specific bulls "picked out?"
>I would be considering hiring
>a guide to get me
>into the areas that hold
>elk...not specifically to go shoot
>a particular bull. I'd be
>hiring him for his knowledge
>of the unit. Any advice
>is appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Steve

Get a good guide, its basically an OIL tag.

doz · Nov 9, 2017

Put in for area 22 bull late, be willing to hike some miles, and I will be your free guide and help pack-out.

Found a 7x7 that made it through last year's season (not sure about this year). IMO, 22 is getting to be one of the top Elk hunts or maybe I am partial because I know where they are

257Tony · Nov 9, 2017

Good advice from lumpy. Put a good guide together with a good hunter, in a good unit, magic happens!

Wiszard · Nov 9, 2017

2lumpy just pm'ed me and gave me some more good advice. He says that guides can never have enough knives and a great tip is a new skinning knife. He says guides always need good knives.

I'd also throw in my 3 year old pair of Bushnell bino's. LOL

Thanks for the advice guys.

doz- pm sent.

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elkassassin · Nov 9, 2017

Hey Wisz!

Quit being such a Tight-Ass!

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littlebighorn · Nov 9, 2017

Wis,
Outfitters own the business and run the show. If they are good, they will often be busy during hunting season and have more than one client at a time. If that's the case, they may have multiple guides to take clients by the hand or follow them around like 2lumpy said. The outfitter will also sometimes do guiding himself, depending on the work load and needs, and sometimes there are additional helpers like wranglers/cooks, etc.
If you are looking into going with someone, make sure you check references of both successful and unsuccessful previous hunters. Any reputable outfitter should be willing to do that, and if they don't steer clear of them. Past clients can tell you lots about the outfit.
For sure, if you are cashing in lots of points, there is no shame in getting help. And like 2lumpy says, you can still have a complete hunting experience by doing your share of the glassing, work, packing, etc.
Best of luck in cashing in those points and finding a big bull.

Wiszard · Nov 9, 2017

What does a guide typically cost? Going rate for a 7 day elk hunt? Just a guide....no food/lodging....just me and my guide going out and glassing trying to locate good bulls? I appreciate all the other info.

Am I looking at $1500? $3500? $6000? Cost will determine whether I hire someone to help or if I just go completely DIY.

BESS- I don't have money stashed. I've got a daughter at UCLA and one at Loyola Marymount. I barely have enough money to keep up the security system that surrounds my house to keep the creeps from stalking in on the Mrs.

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elkassassin · Nov 9, 2017

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azhuntin · Nov 9, 2017

Wiszard,

For guide only, you are probably going to be in the $3500 +/- range for a 7 day hunt.

JoeyPooch · Nov 10, 2017

Steve, if you can save your money and DIY. You will be surprised at how much help you get if you reach out a little. Guys with Previous Nevada Bulls tags aren't going to get drawn for 20+ more years lol, so most will tell you everything they know. I just spent 15 days in Area 6 with the early rifle tag, I went up on the 17th, 5 days before opener, did 2 scouting wknds one in August and one in September. On Day 14 I killed a 350 class bull and passed over 50 bulls most 6's. I'll admit it was a lot of work but everytime Im going to look at that big bastard on my wall I know I did It myself with my bro, dad and some friends. The ultimate experience!!!

BIGJOHNT · Nov 10, 2017

In general I think you can expect to pay 1000 bucks a day plus the tip. Most hunts may have a five day minimum. The guide cost and covering insurance, fuel,food and scouting time. Adding more spotters another 500.00 a day. Guides all differ a bit. But find a good one and go over with them what you expect on your hunt. It's not to soon to start with calling them now .

WVHUNTER · Nov 10, 2017

In most states you can't hire a "guide" you have to hire an outfitter and the guides work for the outfitter. Outfitter will have a license, insurance, rules to follow and oversight by the state.

Nevada seems to use different terminology for this. The outfitter is called a Master Guide and the guides working for him are called sub-guides. But it seems to work the same.

A fully outfitted guided hunt with lodging, food, guide, transportation and game retrieval would normally be closer to the $6,000 number.

Outfitters rarely have an animal picked out for you unless it's a really high dollar hunt. They just hunt the areas they have hunted in past years where they have seen game.

wildfin · Nov 10, 2017

You may want to get the tag first, there is no guarantee no matter how many point you have, I didnt draw with 21 and it took 19 to get a deer tag. I dont think the price will go down in the future

Wiszard · Nov 10, 2017

I know it could take longer than I think to draw but this is info that I can use to determine what route I should go. I will not be paying for a guide service or outfitter. It is just too much $$ for my pocket book. I appreciate all the info guys.

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wildfin · Nov 10, 2017

I to would rather go diy and would find the elk but I think I will go guided just for the help and a good chance at starting in the right area, I am sure that I will scout and It will cost me, I am sure I will still scout even If I have a guide, so It will still cost more, but I will bit the bullet but wont totally put faith in the guide. You may also be able to use a guide latter in the season at a discount.For me with 21 pts and one of the very few places in the west to have a chance at exceptional quality makes the choice a little easier, not cheaper.

elkassassin · Nov 10, 2017

>I know it could take longer
>than I think to draw
>but this is info that
>I can use to determine
>what route I should go.
>I will not be paying
>for a guide service or
>outfitter. It is just too
>much $$ for my pocket
>book. I appreciate all the
>info guys.
>
>Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good
>health for granted because it
>can be gone in a
>heartbeat. Please go back and
>read the last line. This
>time really understand what it
>says.

JUDAS Wisz!

You Can't take it with you!

She Don't Just Rain She Pours!

That Girl Right There's The Perfect Storm!

Trevor · Nov 11, 2017

>Put in for area 22 bull
>late, be willing to hike
>some miles, and I will
>be your free guide and
>help pack-out.
>
>Found a 7x7 that made it
>through last year's season (not
>sure about this year).
>IMO, 22 is getting to
>be one of the top
>Elk hunts or maybe I
>am partial because I know
>where they are

I would take doz up on his offer or at least be talking to him. Sounds like just the ticket.

DoeNob · Nov 13, 2017

about $1000 a day is going rate. Add tip on top.

Gator · Nov 13, 2017

Wiz
Talk with DOZ I think he is your best bet for a good hunt.
I believe he can get ya into some good Bulls without breaking the bank.

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