Remington 700 ML 209 Conversion Kits: Newer Type

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I finally solved my ignition situation concerning my .54 caliber Remington 700 ML rifle. Years ago, I purchased a conversion kit from the factory and it was not quite exactly perfect in its function. I found a company in Oklahoma that manufactures a better conversion kit and the newer kit should be very good. I paid $35 about ten years ago for a kit that converted my rifle from #11 caps to the 209 shotgun primer. This new kit cost about $60. The old one never put a dent into the primer and the manufacturer of the new type kit says that his improved version will put a big ole dent right in the center of the primer. Can use Black Horn powder with this new style also. Already ordered me one on line and I think I will be pleased. Thanks to Idaho Ron and to the Texas Hunter 58 for their advice and counsel in getting my rifle "field ready." Good hunting luck to each of you. Cow Tag from southern Illinois
 
Nice, is this "Hunter's" bolt nose kit or something else? You will need a new breechplug to shoot BH209 if its still a plunger style.
 
Hunt, Believe that the one I purchased is someone's else's cause the advertisement did not mention anything about the Hunter's type or style. I purchased mine from the R&P Muzzleloading Company from S.W. Oklahoma. This fellow has a nice webpage with all types of black powder items for sale. He sounded knowledgeable over the telephone also. Explain more about the plunger style of breech plug. I have the Remington factory breech plug in my ML rifle---the original plug that came with the weapon. I would like to use the BH powder if possible. Send me more information about it if you would. Thanks, Cow Tag
 
Thanks for the info. I have buoght bullets from him in the past. I looked at the conversion and while not ideal for BH209, it may work due to the long threads on the nipple. The Remington 700 ML has a plunger style bolt that does not hold the primer in contact with the breechplug. The drawback to this style is it allows blowback. That is the biggest drawback to the 700 ML. I loved how mine handled and shot accuracy wise, but the blowback with heavy Pyrodex charges left a lot to be desired. I went to the closed breech Omega because of it.

The "Hunter" version is done by a fellow on Doug's ML board and he had a couple styles that use either the Rem 700 breechplug or the Savage 10 ML II breechplug. This is Hunter's bolt conversion:

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I am getting ready to blueprint my Rem 700 ML action and make it a smokeless ML by adding the Hunter bolt nose kit and a Pac-Nor barrel. Time to step it up a notch.
 
I received my 700 ML conversion kit quickly and installed it without any assistance. Put a 209 primer into the new nipple and fired. A nice big noise and I took the primer out of the nipple and was pleased to see a great big ole DENT in the primer. The new conversion kit works quite well and the assurance of Mr. Remington shooting each and every time is priceless. Money well spent (about $65). Looking forward to the Illinois whitetail season more than ever. Cow Tag
 
HNT, I haven't actually fired the Remington since the conversion kit was installed. I did shoot a couple of 209 primers and was pleased in the fact that the spent primers had a huge dent in them from the conversion kit's new firing pin. The manufacturer of the kit says that I can successfully use the BH 209 powder and I will be trying it very soon. This old ML rifle likes 777 as its power source (accuracy and velocity) but I will experiment with Black Horn shortly. I am pleased to get the ignition issues behind me right now. Would recommend the R&P conversion to anyone that owns a Remington ML. Cow Tag
 
I have an older 209 conversion. My gun is great I LOVE it. One thing though, I have to keep it clean. After over 6 shots there is a chance it might not go off. I believe it is the dirt/grime/powder residue around the spring that bogs it down.

When I go hunting I simply take the bolt apart and clean the spring area good and it never gives me an issue - ever. Just a tip.
 
Hunters, I found my old post by searching through the old 'posts.' I have never used Black Horn powder in this rifle....wonder if I can use safely? I have the factory breech plug still in this rifle (Rem. 700 ML). Any current information available? Any opinions? I have always used 777 as my powder with good results. Cow Tag
 
the first hurtle to using blackhorn powder (BH209) is getting a gun that can fire a 209 shotshell primer. you have that. the next thing to do is get a projectile that is snug enough in the bore to achieve reliable powder ignition. good tight fitting sabots or conicals will usually work, if not try a felt wad between your powder charge and the bullet/projectile and you should find success. after that you have to determine if the amount of blowback into the action on your gun is acceptable or not and if not what can be done if anything to make it acceptable.
I think yours should fire BH209 fine, there is only one way to find out, test it.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-02-15 AT 07:08AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON May-02-15 AT 07:07?AM (MST)

I sell the best 209 Conversion Kits for the 700ML/MLS. There are cheaper ones out there, but they all suffer from blow back and exposed primers.

Please see my blog for why I'm convinced its the best:

http://www.badgerridgeind.com/toms-corner/category/remington-700-mlmls


And here's where you go to buy it:

http://www.badgerridgeind.com/store/c5/Muzzle-Loader.html

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I love my 700MLS now and shoot Blackhorn209 in it with zero blow back, no special tools to cary like priming forks etc... its the rifle that it always should have been.
 
Badger, thank you for posting this useful article. The conversion kits brings new life to the Remington 700 ML rifles.
 
So is this conversion going to seal the action? Does this mean I don't have to take down my bolt everytime??? If so, I'll have to go buy one!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-05-15 AT 04:46AM (MST)[p]>So is this conversion going to
>seal the action? Does this
>mean I don't have to
>take down my bolt everytime???
>If so, I'll have to
>go buy one!

If you install the system right, yes there will be zero blow back that gets into the bolt. Why do I say if you do your part right... I've had a few clients ream their breech plugs too big because they wanted an easier primer feed... doing so can allow some of the blowback to get past the primer...

https://youtu.be/ELohSHuJkGA

I shoot my rifle in the youtube video above... zero blow back with 120 gr of Blackhorn 209. The primer seals to the breech plug, and seals the blowback in, and the weather out..

Tom
 
So?

Everybody claim,s to have the BEST 209 Conversion?

Which one is truly the BEST?

Check your PM cowtag!

Go Ahead!

Make Me take it down!

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