Non-lead bullets

6x7 · Dec 19, 2014

Anybody on here experiment with them yet? I will need to be using them here soon so I might as well get use to it before it happens!

txhunter58 · Dec 19, 2014

Conicals or sabots? I have used Thor conicals and although they are a little bit of trouble to size to your particular barrel, they shoot pretty well and are really tough bullets. And I hear only good things about barnes sabots.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)

6x7 · Dec 19, 2014

I have only shot conicals so far while hunting in Colorado ,but where I hunt in California I can shot sabots or conicals, i am thinking of putting a scope on it all so for my next years hunt,I am shooting a cva optima pro mag.

txhunter58 · Dec 19, 2014

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I guess if I could shoot sabots, I would (although I never have). Barnes muzzleloading bullets get good reviews:

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)

trophyhunter · Dec 20, 2014

So a quick question to you Muzz guys. For regular rifle we had to reduce our powder load due to increased chamber pressure from the harder copper bullets. Are you guys experiencing the same chamber pressure issues?

Thanks in advance,
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hank4elk · Dec 20, 2014

I only use Barnes Sabots now in my Omega,the TEZ's.With BH 209 and a scope. Legal here in NM and very effective.

txhunter58 · Dec 21, 2014

>So a quick question to you
>Muzz guys. For regular rifle
>we had to reduce our
>powder load due to increased
>chamber pressure from the harder
>copper bullets. Are you guys
>experiencing the same chamber pressure
>issues?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>))))------->

Don't know for a fact, but I would guess no. Haven't heard of anyone having trouble and having to reduce the load. For one thing, we generally use up to around 300 gr copper bullets, whereas I routinely use 460 gr lead conicals. On those, I generally reduce the load for several reasons, the biggest is they shoot more accurately and I don't flinch as bad

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)

FrontierGander · Dec 21, 2014

nope. Black powder is not that sensitive like smokeless. I am sure there is an increase in pressure but not enough to hurt anything.

lve2143 · Dec 23, 2014

6x7,

Try the saboted Barnes 250 grainers.
I've shot two big bodied NM bucks with
this load, and it's amazing how well they
do. They are accurate, and mushroom deadly.

They are quite impressive in performance.

L

trophyhunter · Dec 23, 2014

Thanks for the replies guys.

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6x7 · Dec 23, 2014

I will start with the Barnes thanks for the info!

CAelknuts · Dec 25, 2014

I was shooting 338 grain Powerbelts in my 50 Knight, and liked them a lot. A friend convinced me to try some of the Barnes 290 grain TMZ bullets with the yellow sabot. WOW!!! I was very impressed with how they grouped and how many shots we could get between cleanings and maintain accuracy.

So, my son used them on his Arizona muzzleloader bull hunt and his California muzzleloader buck hunt. He got fantastic performance on both animals. The elk was about a 900 pound bull, shot broadside at about 100 yards. Clean pass-through with a huge wound channel. The buck was shot facing away, right at the base of the tail, at about 40 yards. The bullet penetrated the length of the buck's body.

Our load is a 290 gr. TMZ pushed by 130 grains of Pyrodex pellets and a Remington 209 primer. I won't be looking for any other load going forward, I like this one that much.

6x7 · Dec 28, 2014

Did a little bit of looking around the Barnes are hard to find in stock anywhere right now!

lve2143 · Dec 29, 2014

If you get in a bind, I'll send you some.

But you shouldn't be right now

Cahunter805 · Dec 30, 2014

Barnes 250tmz or 290tmz and blackhorn 209 is the perfect combo. CCI 209m primers.
Also get a spinjag for loading and its much easier.

I think there are some 250tmz for sale in the classifieds here.