I have a few videos up

I wanted to post a few videos. I know some guys might find this all old news.

Shooting a field cleaning a traditional muzzleloader.

https://youtu.be/ibU-5uCuy_I

Fully cleaning a Muzzleloader.

https://youtu.be/Wuai-XGRSnk

Wrapping paper patched bullets.

https://youtu.be/RmARVEFJbr0

Practicing for hunting with a traditional gun

https://youtu.be/39arn7qj3JQ

My wife would never approve cleaning my MLs over her kitchen sink, then spraying Rem-Oil all over her kitchen countertop.

You must be married to a real sweetheart Ron.

LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-15 AT 11:01PM (MST)[p]She is, but if done right there isn't any damage. So your wife has to approve everything you do? Been cleaning my BP guns in the sink for 30 years. Maybe you should ask your wife for a little more chain.

Been cleaning my BP guns in the kitchen the entire 37 years we've been married. Took some abuse early on, but now she just wrinkles her nose and teases me about " farting in the kitchen"!

The one thing she does get upset about is heat up antelope horns in the microwave. Had to get an old one for the shop for that.

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>LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-15
>AT 11:01?PM (MST)
>
>She is, but if done right
>there isn't any damage. So
>your wife has to approve
>everything you do? Been cleaning
>my BP guns in the
>sink for 30 years. Maybe
>you should ask your wife
>for a little more chain.
>

I use centerfire cleaners to clean mine and if I need a sink, I head over to the laundry room in the basement. I never let soap and water touch them. I also don't believe dawn soap and water removes carbon. lead, copper and plastic.

Whatever floats your boat Ron. I'm the guy that buys MLs like yours, after owners feel they are no longer accurate. Well I've found enough bores online that only needed real cleaners to restore them, not soap and water.

This ain't the 1800's anymore Ron. You seem to have a beautiful kitchen and can afford one of the nice gun cleaners out there, to remove either lead, copper, plastic or carbon. Full strength dish soap will NOT..... period/exclamation point.

You may sell a dummy on using soap and water on your video, but not me. You get my recommendation for using soap on hard-to-reach bolster drums and nipple holes, but that's it..... nowhere else on that gun.

Lastly, if you like Teflon in your bore, keep using that crappy Rem-oil.
I'm done with this and hopefully your gun barrels stay lead, copper, carbon and plastic free after reading this. But right now, I seriously doubt they are free. They are something you may want to sell me on Gunbroker someday..... claiming the bore is wore out, when all it needs is a good cleaning.

I wish I could show a video of me cleaning your sidelock, right after you cleaned it. I guarantee you those patches that you found white, would not be white after I cleaned that bore with a real gun cleaner. So please, go back to your smoke & mirror video-making. Go sell another newbie on your soap and water concept.

You ruffled my feather thinking I do not wear the pants in my house. Well I do, but I respect my wife's kitchen and would never put my dirty guns on her countertop.

Water washes away the corrosive salts that black powder and sub powders contain. Modern cleaners do not do that.

Ron shoots paper patched bullets, So I am pretty sure he is lead free in the bore.

Oh my, I stuck up for Ron? I feel a hug coming

Just kiddin Ron, Im just doing whats right is all.

www.FrontierMuzzleloading.com

Well let me first say my barrels will never have plastic, I don't shoot them. It will never have copper because I don't use copper in my ML's. My barrels will never have lead in the barrel because I use a paper patched bullet. No as far as powder fouling goes. Pyrodex is water soluble. No cleaners are required.

I have used other oils and rem oil works great in stainless guns. I have seen some oils that will cause hang fires in ML's. Rem oil won't. It is what I use and that is all I will use.

Don't bother waiting for one of these barrels to show up on an auction. I have owned them for a long time. They will shoot sub 2" groups with a peep sight. That have for MANY years. So don't wait for these to come up so you can get a good gun.

I will end this post like you ended yours. Go back and plead for your wife to give your pants back. Tell her that her skirt is not comfortable and you don't fit in with the other ML guys. Some day she might let you use them "man of the house pants" until then go troll somewhere else. BTW your slip is showing.

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>Water washes away the corrosive salts
>that black powder and sub
>powders contain. Modern cleaners do
>not do that.
>
>Ron shoots paper patched bullets, So
>I am pretty sure he
>is lead free in the
>bore.
>
>Oh my, I stuck up for
>Ron? I feel a hug
>coming
>
>Just kiddin Ron, Im just doing
>whats right is all.
>
>www.FrontierMuzzleloading.com

Thank you "hug"

Idahoron,

It was obvious in your cleaning video that you were using liquid soap. I have been shooting black powder a long time and was told to always use bar soap and never liquid soap. The liquid soap has a corrosive element to it. Being in an industrial business that used liquid soap as part of their formula I have seen this first hand where metal was etched.

Not to get on you for cleaning your gun in your kitchen, but just your comment. To each is own on that. My wife would not like it and yes I could do it, but I respect her wishes.

Keep it clean man.

Ron, as soon as I can watch these at home, I will! I've been trying these PP bullets in my Great Plains barrel. So I'm pretty new to PP bullets. I'm liking the results so far but know I have room for improvement.

Liquid soap that eats metal. Allrighty then.
Just when you think you have heard it all. Those guns have beenb cleaned that way for a decade. But I guess I will let you know in another decade.

Good Job