Well, which scope should I get?

Roy · Dec 4, 2015

Looks like Utah is going to allow any magnification on MLs now. Looks like I am saving my money for a scope. Currently have a Traditions Pursuit.

Recommendations?

Just on a side note - if I were to get a brand new ML - scope included, what would you recommend?

HOOK 'EM!
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Verticalslope · Dec 4, 2015

I love my CVA Accura Mountain Rifle with the Konus 3x9 scope. I shoot Blackhorn 209 powder and Barnes Spitfire T-EZ bullets. I am getting great range and accuracy. The scope has an illuminated mil dot in the center of the cross hair, plus drop compensation lines out to 275 if zeroed at 100 yards.

txhunter58 · Dec 4, 2015

Have never shot one with a scope, so can't help you. However, I am worried that it will now be much harder than it already is to draw a tag due to increased applicants

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Anaconda · Dec 4, 2015

>I love my CVA Accura Mountain
>Rifle with the Konus 3x9
>scope. I shoot Blackhorn 209
>powder and Barnes Spitfire T-EZ
>bullets.

I shoot the same gun and load, with a Leo VX III, 1.5X5X20
I am a beliver in lower powered scopes.
I just don't need a 9 or 10X scope to shoot an elk at 250 yards.
The advantage is 1.5 X in the woods is very fast on target.

So my advice would be a new VX-3, 2.5X8 with a heavy duplex or #4

muley505 · Dec 5, 2015

If I got a new ML, it would hands-down be the new(ish) Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader. You aren't going to beat its performance at the price point it's at, and I've not read a review yet where the reviewer didn't love it. As far as a scope, there are so many good options, it's hard to recommend any one in particular. I'm a fan of Leupold, Vortex, and Nikon scopes, and they all offer tons of variety to fit your style.

If you were to get the Remington Ultimate, I'd look very seriously at the Parker Muzzleloader bullets as they have super high B.C.s for a ML bullet, and they are ideal for the increased range you can get out of the Remington.

If you're not looking to spend that kind of money, I'd go with the CVA Optima or Wolf for a little less money. My brother bought a Wolf a year or two back, and for what it costs, it is a great muzzleloader.

Zeke · Dec 7, 2015

I think any quality "up to" 4 or 6 power scope is plenty for a front-stuffer.

I put a 2.5-8 Leupold on my Ultimate last year for load development and it's not been used for hunting so I never removed it. That scope should be fine on the lower powers like 2.5 up to 4 or 5 for the ranges that I'll be shooting.

I'd rather have a quality 4x than a crappy 3-9.

Good luck,
Zeke

ELKOHOLIC · Dec 7, 2015

Zeke, What kind of accuracy you getting with that?

Deerlove · Dec 8, 2015

And at what distances?

ForkWest · Dec 9, 2015

CVA all the way Roy. Accura if you want to spend more, Optima if you don't. They just plain shoot! BH209 with 290g Barnes TMZ or TEZ. It's deadly accurate, right out of the box.

Zeke · Dec 11, 2015

>Zeke, What kind of accuracy you
>getting with that?

ELKOHOLIC,

I tries 100 grs of BH209 (this is hand weighed so it equates to about 146 grs by volume and considered by most to be near maximum) and the accuracy was acceptable at 1.5-2.5" groups at 100 yards. This load produced velocity exceeding 200 grains of pellets (over 2400 fps).

Since I'm such a ML rookie, I checked with several people who have been in it for years and they said with this load it might be a bit hot for the sabot petals and to start down a little. This is easy to do since it's loose powder and I hand weigh.

The last several groups have been shockingly good with 95 weighed grains of BH209, Rem 250 Accutip and the original green sabot. 5 shots at 100 yards is a 1" ragged hole with that load! I'm super happy.

Things I did to the gun prior to shooting it: floated the barrel and bedded the action and about 1.5" of the of the barrel just in front of the receiver, installed a Timney trigger, mounted a 2.5-8 Leupold with Warne mounts. Oh, and I got some Spin jags for seating the bullet, spin starter and a bore guide.

I've tried some 300 gr Parker bullets without good results but have not played enough with them. I think I loaded them too hot based on my discovery with my new Accutip load.

Zeke

SHEDYGAGA · Jan 4, 2016

Meopta meopro 3-9 X 40mm 1 inch tube.

Runs under $400
3-9X is plenty of power for any modern muzzleloader.

3 reticles to choose from.

They also have a muzzleloader and rimfire option.
The main difference being that the muzzleloader version has its parallax optimized at 50 yards.

Of course these days most people shoot further than that with the muzzle guns.
Thats why you may want the regular version of the scope, not the muzzy and rimfire version.

Low profile scope.

hossblur · Jan 4, 2016

So mama rewarded me for being the obvious hot piece of tail I am and bought me a new CVA accura V2. It comes with the Konus scope, I am not familiar with it. Is this something I want to dump, or are they a useable piece of equipment?

I was thinking of the Redfield for a scope, before she bought me the package.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

hank4elk · Jan 4, 2016

I got a Nikon Omega when they 1st came out for MZ. Good scope but hate the BDC dots.
Will upgrade to Leupold soon. 3x9x40. I believe they use all the optic potential for mine.I can shoot out to 200 easy with it, so that is the range of sight I use. 3x9x40 in varied terrain and growth.
MZ's need to take more impact abuse than a rifle I am told.Same with a shotgun.
Buddy rattled a old Leupold lenses loose shooting his....made for a rifle.

Abe77901 · Jan 28, 2016

I love my Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader with the Leupold Ultimate Slam 3 x 9 x40....took down a very nice Kansas Whitetail in 2015 at 135 yards easy....good to 300 yards if you care to make that shot!

Elkextreme · Jan 29, 2016

CVA Accura V2 with Vortex BH 209 110 grains 300 grain Scorpion PT gold
1.5 inches at 200 simply amazing,
Killed my Bull elk this year at 307 yards.
I'm hooked

Phantom Hunter · Feb 1, 2016

Roy,

I have a Traditions Pursuit. It came with a scope but I swapped it out for a 2x7 Leupold Muzzy scope. I also used the bases with the integral peep sight so I can pull the scope for use in Colo. and be ready to go with no more changing sights.