Lose vs pellets

Was at the range today, this individual was saying that 100 grain of pellets = 70-75 grains of 209 black horn. And 150 grain of pellets =120 of black horn.
Any input out there.

Change that to 80-85 is the same as 100 and I would agree. You don't say what pellets you are talking about, but generally most available pellets would have significantly less power than BH 209 loose. You can generally figure that you get at least 15-18% more power out of loose BH. 120 of BH 209 would be an absolute max in a 150 gr gun IMO. I personally have never shot that much BH because when I get to 110, my body goes OUCH. My elk load is 90 gr of BH 209 with a 350 gr Hornady FPB bullet. Plenty of power and have killed 4 elk with that load. And I have shot as many as 30 shots with BH without swabbing ONCE! No pellet out there that will let you do that.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)

Txhunter, the gentleman I'm talking about never disclosed what pellets he was using. I personally use 90 grain loose powder black horn 209 with 300 grain bullet of Hornaday sst low drag w/no problem. I've shot as much as 40 rounds w/out swabbing and groups are consistently tight.
Used to shoot Parydex 100 grain pellets what a mess.

Thanks for your input much appreciated

>Txhunter, the gentleman I'm talking about
>never disclosed what pellets he
>was using. I personally use
>90 grain loose powder black
>horn 209 with 300 grain
>bullet of Hornaday sst low
>drag w/no problem. I've shot
>as much as 40 rounds
>w/out swabbing and groups are
>consistently tight.
>Used to shoot Parydex 100 grain
>pellets what a mess.
>
>Thanks for your input much appreciated
>

Pyrodex is JUNK compared to what you're shooting!








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Shot at a buck years back, missed him. He didn't know where it came from exactly, but he was staring right at my direction. I was laying flat on my back trying to reload with powder. A large bunch of which fell out the end of the gun. The second shot had barely enough to make a spark, and a nice buck lazily bounded away. I could care less about how good a powder is at the range, in real world, pellets are better. Just my .02



"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

Been hunting with a muzzleloader since the early seventies and shot about every powder in existence. 209 is by far the best for most inlines and regular ol' black powder for the traditionals. Then again I have never had to lay on my back to load and the only time I shake when loading that loose stuff is when I just missed a big one.

>Shot at a buck years back,
>missed him. He didn't
>know where it came from
>exactly, but he was staring
>right at my direction.
>I was laying flat on
>my back trying to reload
>with powder. A large
>bunch of which fell out
>the end of the gun.
> The second shot had
>barely enough to make a
>spark, and a nice buck
>lazily bounded away. I
>could care less about how
>good a powder is at
>the range, in real world,
>pellets are better. Just
>my .02
>
>
>
>"The only thing that stops a
>bad guy with a gun
>is a good guy with
>a gun"

Come on hoss!

You'd of Had that Gun Loaded with Good Powder You Wouldn't of been F'N around Trying to Reload!










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I've been shooting/hunting with a muzzleloader for 20 years and killed both elk and deer in good weather and bad. I know opinions about pyrodex vary, but I have never had a misfire of any kind and some of the bad weather was in a really soaking wet pouring rain (all day). The loose type grains meter well, compress evenly in seating, and provides consistent performance.

I use 95 grains of loose pyrodex, well within what is rated for my rifles with excellent accuracy from 100-125 yards which is my personal max.


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The only thing I know is that after shooting a lot of side-hammer guns, temperature has more of fluctuation in shot groupings with the substitutes than the black powder. In other words I have found BP to be more consistent. That being said black powder shooting is a different animal. Every gun acts differently to different powders. I have a side-hammer gun that throws slugs all over the place with the substitutes and is a tack-driver with the ol' black powder. It is so different I really can't figure out what is happening. I have tried about every powder and every quantity you could immagine.

I wish a ballistic expert out there could tell what is going on.

Powder dont make up for chitty shooting. Flat out missed. And it was on the Manti, that 20" buck was the biggest on the mtn. That was a knight disc, first year they came out. I can still hear that "poof", had to be a good 30 grains pushing that slug



"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

>Powder dont make up for chitty
>shooting. Flat out missed.
> And it was on
>the Manti, that 20" buck
>was the biggest on the
>mtn. That was a
>knight disc, first year they
>came out. I can
>still hear that "poof", had
>to be a good 30
>grains pushing that slug
>
>
>
>"The only thing that stops a
>bad guy with a gun
>is a good guy with
>a gun"


LMAO hoss!

I Think We've All Done that at some time!

But Seriously hoss!

BH 209 My Friend!

Make sure it's Compatible with your Gun!

Or You'll go from a 'POOF' to a "BANG"!







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