Advice on AZ 34A Jan. Archery???

Blacktailslayer

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I was invited to join a group of guys who hunts down there every year for the past 4-5 years. I personally have never hunted down there nor even seen a Coues deer. I have killed a couple of whitetail and several blacktail, but never the "ghost". I've always heard how tough they are to hunt, and I'm extremely looking forward to hunting them. We are going the week of the 14th-22nd of January 2006. We also have Javelina tags. The aread they hunt is 34A, North of Patagonia. The group I'm going with has taken some average bucks out of there and the 1st year they went the dad stuck a P&Y buck. They have also had okay luck with the Javs. I was wondering if any of you had any advice to offer up on how to hunt these devils or what the country looks like? Are treestands helpful? Scents, grunts, rattlin'? I've also heard there is mule deer down there also and that our tag is good for them as well. I would rather concentrate on a Coues, but is there difference in where their ranges are or are they intermingled? Sorry for so many questions, but I like to be prepared, and I'm too dang far away to scout. 22 hr drive for this trip! I knew this was the place for info, you guys seem to know these little devils pretty well.
 
Never been in 34A but you will be doing a lot of glassing hopefully. I hunt in 33 and get up on a ridge early and just sit and glass. I have hunted the last couple years with a couple guys from here on MM's and we have seen them as far away as 2 miles. Then plan your stalk and hope they don't bust you. I don't think that tree stands will do you any good at all. Unless it is different than 33 there are no trees tall enough to hang a stand. And I have seen muleys and coues in the same areas. If the buck is nice enough I don't care which it is. Good luck on your hunt and take lots of pictures to post.
 
yep. get ready to glass and hike! get away from the main roads and all other stuff "humany" these guys like to hide and do it well. a good tripod and great glass will be your best friends during the hike. i would also reccomend a sitting pad of some sort to sit on while glassing, will keep the chill out of ur but and the rocks and stuff out as well. good luck!
Casey
 
Get a forest service map of the coronado national forest,look for the areas that lay between Madera canyon,which is on the west side of the Santa Rita mountains just east of Arivaca junction and Gardner canyon which is on the east side of the mountains,directly east of Madera,this summer there was a big fire in these areas,the last I was up around these areas there was much new growth,in sawmill canyon which is between these spots I glassed many coues up in the juniper trees.Just west of Madera in the desert rolling hills there are many nice Muleys as well as Javelina.The elevation between these spots goes to over 9000 feet .There are many oak filled canyons between them also that have always held deer.I used to hunt and explore the area regularly as I live close to the area.I stopped because of the many illegals,many drug smugglers and the border patrol that are all over the area. The area is pretty filthy with trash,blankets,backpacks,waterbottles everywhere you go.Hunters have been shot at and their camps and vehicles gone through or stolen in that area.Remember your tag allows you to hunt many areas during that hunt.There are many better and safer areas close to there that hold coues,your Javelina tag is probaly for multiple areas as well.If you go to 34A be safe and watch your back.Good luck.Dont mean to rain on your parade but thats my backyard and it really disgusting to its present condition!!!!
 

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