runt whitetails

magicmuleys · Jul 31, 2006

first time coues hunter next month, early archery season, going to stay mid state, was told to find water and that was the key to a kill!theres lots of water out there! anybody else with helpful hints? have the best optics & equip, and a good pair of boots!

ASUCoues · Aug 3, 2006

water may not be the best strategy with all the rain the state has had over the last 2 - 3 weeks. spot and stalk. look for a single buck and angle back and forth towards him. CB

magicmuleys · Aug 4, 2006

angle back and forth? what exactly do you mean? seems like more movement 2 hide. there is a lot of water. are coues more likely 2 be habitual? and when they do water how early and late? are they skidish in september? supid question?

Bura Nut · Aug 4, 2006

magic, if you havent already, you should buy the book "how to hunt coues deer" by Duwane Adams. I think its on this site in the store but if not, go to www.coueswhitetail.com and they have it there. As to coues being skittish in september, they are skittish all year long........LOL...seriously they arent as spooky in september if you stay back a ways and glass them. They will be in bachelor groups still and you can somewhat pattern them. Spot and stalk is the great and sitting water holes is also a good bet. Find your deer glassing and see what they are doing or set up a trail cam and start to get a feel for the habits........ Thanks, Allen Taylor......

magicmuleys · Aug 5, 2006

thanks for the info, i guess i will stick 2 my plan of spot and stalk, cant be to difficult after all they are animals! was just trying to get some heads up on any weakness they might have. Dont really have time to read a book & and have never heard of Mr. Adams so i will go with what i know. When im done maybe i will write a book! jk!

Bura Nut · Aug 5, 2006

Majic, I hope you do real well. I think you might find that they are a tad bit tougher than maybe what you think. The terrain is pretty rough compared to normal whitetail habitat and they are preyed upon by lions so much that they are real skittish. Hope you shoot a big one....... Thanks, Allen Taylor......

moneyman · Aug 7, 2006

>thanks for the info, i guess
>i will stick 2 my
>plan of spot and stalk,
>cant be to difficult after
>all they are animals! was
>just trying to get
>some heads up on any
>weakness they might have. Dont
>really have time to read
>a book & and have
>never heard of Mr. Adams
>so i will go with
>what i know. When im
>done maybe i will write
>a book! jk!

Maybe you should just stick to hunting CARP. They seem to be more in your league.

magicmuleys · Aug 7, 2006

why moneyman? why? do you think coues are that much harder than desert muleys? I just dont see how! or are you just playing the Im better than you card? I will find them, stalk them, then if everything is right I will have one on my wall. Bow hunting is slightly harder so I realize I might never reach your level of coues hunting fame but the more I try the closer I will be! What are you worried about? If your name is any indication you probably hire a guide in Mexico. Thanks Bura

jasn · Aug 7, 2006

A good archery hunter should be able to spot and stalk a decent buck and if you are disciplined then you should have a good chance, but coues are definitely much harder than desert muleys IMO! They are less habitual, not easy to pattern, and very unpredictable and skittish as mentioned. Depending on the terrain, they seemingly vanish, hence why many refer to them as the grey ghost!

If you haven't heard of the book or author, the comments simply give away that you are a newbie coues hunter. I may speak for myself and my close coues hunting buddies, but you might have years of close/blown experiences to come as many of us have under our belts! I feel even the best coues hunters need a bit of luck to bag a good archery buck. Good luck, let us know how you do!

OutdoorWriter · Aug 7, 2006

Magic,

There are several articles on successful bow hunts in the "How TO Hunt Coues Deer" book, which I co-authorred with Duwane Adams. In fact, there's even one on Sergio Orozco's current P&Y world-record buck that's pictured on the book's cover (see front & rear covers below). He killed it using spot-&-stalk. That said, a couple of the best bucks ever killed by bowhunters in AZ were shot from treestands. -TONY

WHT_MTNMAN · Aug 10, 2006

Magic- Coues are quite a bit harder to hunt than desert mulies IMO. Unlike mulies if you don't see them bed down it is very unlikely you will be able to find them again later on in the day. They just disapear. My suggestion is to watch from high up. watch em bed and then they will be in that same area all day long. Gives you hours to plan and execute a good stalk.

HullinPhx · Aug 10, 2006

I think the biggest difference in Desert Muleys and Coues deer are the size, If I am on a hill side glassing it is easier to see a brute mule deer weighing around 200+ pounds than it is seeing a coues deer at 100 pounds. Same goes for shooting a bow, the smaller the target the hard it is to hit.

John

magicmuleys · Aug 11, 2006

I imagine they are probably harder to find & like you said a smaller target. I dont think it will be easy to be successful. I was just trying to find an edge, usually you hunt the animals in the rut. Big desert muleys deserve a little more credit then what they are given but i understand this is a pro coues forum. Maybe after next month when they kick my butt I will be a believer. Good luck to you all, except my good buddy(you no who u are carp are good eating and look good on my wall)

270longshot · Sep 27, 2006

How did your hunt go. I just wanted to chime in.

magicmuleys · Sep 29, 2006

was great thanks for asking. learned alot and had fun. glassed up a lot of deer. more muleys than coues but managed to put a good stalk on a nice 4x4 coues. missed him at 55 yards & he didnt even no i was there. the hard part was they were laying down early and getting up late. so by the time you found them in the evening it was always to late to put a stalk on. it was cool to watch them just a little frustrating not being able to get to them. broke my range finder hence the miss quessed him for 50 and went low. O well

rackem406 · Oct 10, 2006

Hey Tony,
My question for you after reading the book you wrote with Duwane is did you quit smoking??? Just wondering after chasing those little ghosts year after year in the nasty stuff.

Rackem

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