26 Nosler

salasj · Apr 16, 2014

What your take on Nosler new rifle? Pushing a 140gr at 3,400fps, it would've been nice if they did that with a 160 grain bullet.

sageadvice · Apr 16, 2014

My take? I'm hunting a 270WSM and a 280AI. neither round has that velocity but they are within 100 FPS or close to that.

If one is shooting a turret system, the extra speed of the 26 Nosler might mean for a 500 yd shot, we both dial in 500yds and do the deed. If going by holdover, the distance your rifle is sighted in for would more than make up for any holdover advantage the new cartridge would offer.

Not to say that the 26 doesn't look great on paper and would do well in the field. I'm sure it would and it would make a interesting round for the guy used to hunting Muleys and lopes with, say a 30-06. I just don't think it's much of a better "mouse trap" than what a lot of us already have or what has been available for a good long while.

Joey

"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

muzz · Apr 16, 2014

I agree with sage. Sage your 280AI you have what s you load? Im getting mine back from the gunsmith and am wondering what to start with.

Not to hijack the original thread.

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440sixpack · Apr 16, 2014

I'm not sure where you're seeing 3400 with a 140, they claim that with a 129.

I can get 3250 out of my 264 win mag with a 129 pretty easy. so I don't see where 100-150 fps is a game changer.

160 gr in 6.5 will be long as a rope, I don't see how you will ever get impressive velocity with it.

Intersting round yes, but different just for the sake of being different sort of.

Stay thirsty my friends

salasj · Apr 17, 2014

I read that in the guns and ammo article. In the 26-inch barrel of the Nosler Model 48 they used, actual average velocity was 3,425 fp with a 140 grain AccuBond.
Myself I use 140 grain Berger VLD hunting ahead of 71.5 grains of Retumbo and get 3,250 fps. My set up is a weatherby vanguard with a 26" Shilen barrel. Those Berger bullets are devastating on Elk and mule deer. One shot and they drop like they show on TV.

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440sixpack · Apr 17, 2014

So less than 200 fps in a 140. not worth building a new rifle for, but I suppose if you were building one anyway it would deserve consideration. if 140 gr is enough weight for your target, I prefer more on elk.

Stay thirsty my friends

Cahunter805 · Apr 17, 2014

The 26 nosler is a shortened rum case. I like the idea and think if building a new rifle its a great choice. The oal length is another plus. I bet it doesn't take long for the wildcats to start. 24 nosler and 28 nosler sound interesting!

2f350s · May 23, 2014

After reading published articles and specs I don't think the 26 Nosler brings that much more in performance than the array of current .264 cartidges we already have.

Performance in the 140gr weight class is not that impressive and having a MPBR in the 400yrd range with lighter bullets is almost irresponsible. Why not just go to a bullet weight that rounds out the MPBR at 500yrds!

And to get that distance in MPBR, I don't know anyone who zero's rifles at 300yrds! Heck, that's considered reasonably long range by many folks shooting at game.

Before buying/building a 26 Nosler, I'd seriously consider what "proprietary" ammo and or a custom rifle costs for the presumed gain in performance... as in a lot of $$.

mtmuley · May 23, 2014

As rifle guys we like rifles. Especially new cartridges. At least I do. Guys like to hammer new things that out do what they have, even if the margin is small. I'd be interested if I had the coin. I like the RUM case and anything built on it. mtmuley

lve2143 · May 23, 2014

To the original post,
they make bullets the
weight you want.

Your problem ??

bragabit · May 23, 2014

I noticed today Midway had Nosler 26 brass available. 25 rounds. $66 ouch!

salasj · May 24, 2014

Ouch is correct! Last time I checked on dies and brass it listed them but nothing available. Has anyone seen ammo yet?

salasj · May 24, 2014

Nosler Trophy Grade Ammunition 26 Nosler 140 Grain AccuBond Box of 20 listed for $65.99 on Midway

lve2143 · May 25, 2014

Do it.

You didn't buy a .30-06

quest · May 26, 2014

If your shooting long range out to 1000 yards that little extra FPS might make a difference. I think the big difference at those distances is the wind. Id want a bullet with a high B.C and as much velocity I could get along with a accurate rifle/scope combo. With that kinda of speed Id worry about the barrel burn out.

BIGJOHNT · Jun 5, 2014

Double tap ammo is getting 3650 fps with a 127 grain Lrx. Still no pill for elk size animals . But still coming out of the barrel pretty good.

salasj · Jun 6, 2014

Bigjohnt I use 140 grain Berger VLD Hunting on top of 71.5 grains of Retumbo Winchester brass Federal 215M primers @3,215fps out of my 264 winchester Magnum. I've killed elk from distance of 50 yards to 500yds. I've shot cows and nice 6x6 bull. I've never had any of them take a step. Those Berger Bullets are devastating on Elk. Personally I will never shoot another bullet but the Berger in any rifle That I can reload for. My question is why do people think you need a canon to kill Elk. I always believed in shot placement. I had a hunting buddy who hunted Elk with a 243. He always filled his tag. My personal experiance with the 264 Winchester magnum is that it's plenty for mule deer and Elk. My interest in the 26 nosler is the velocity that they list using a 140 grain bullet. Plus you said double tap ammo is listing 127 grain Lrx at 3,650 wow! It would've been nice if Nosler started with a 160 bullet that would be nice. I would like to reload a berger bullet in the 26 nosler and see its affect on elk.

Zeke · Jun 10, 2014

Quote "I don't know anyone
who zero's rifles at 300yrds!"

Huh? You must run in a pretty small circle if you don't know anyone who zeros to 300 yards.

Most faster rifles will shoot line of sight at 300 with a 3" high at 100 yards. Mid-range height will only be approx 4". This will easily give you a MPBR of almost 350+/- yards for big game size critters.

I wouldn't do it any other way with conventional crosshairs.

BTW, the 26 looks interesting. Too bad I currently have enough of everything to keep me happy.

Zeke

Cahunter805 · Jun 10, 2014

Looks like the nosler 26 has been wildcat also. Saw the nosler 27 and nosler 28 listed on a few gunsmith websites already.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...8900338/Wildcatting_the_26_Nosler#Post8900338

BIGJOHNT · Jun 10, 2014

Same here Zeke ! Put a pop can on the three hundred yard berm. Pull the trigger. You ready to hunt. ;-)
> Quote "I don't know anyone
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>pretty small circle if you
>don't know anyone who zeros
>to 300 yards.
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>of sight at 300 with
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>yards. Mid-range height will only
>be approx 4". This will
>easily give you a MPBR
>of almost 350+/- yards for
>big game size critters.
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>way with conventional crosshairs.
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>bad I currently have enough
>of everything to keep me
>happy.
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>Zeke

REDDOG · Jun 20, 2014

>Double tap ammo is getting 3650
>fps with a 127 grain
>Lrx. Still no pill for
>elk size animals . But
>still coming out of the
>barrel pretty good.

I would use that bullet,at that speed on anything in North America..Including Grizz

salasj · Mar 5, 2015

I debated about buying a new 26 Nosler but didn't want to shell out $1,600 to purchase one. So I had an extra 264 win mag that I had built off of a Ruger M-77 7mm Remington Magnum. I had the local gunsmith rechamber it to the 26 nosler and the cost $150. So now I'm just waiting to pick up. That saved me a lot of money. I cant wait to take it out and test out the velocity nosler states. I was surprised on how easy to convert 264 win mag to 26 nosler.

Nevadahunter · Mar 6, 2015

If you look close at ballistic charts the Nosler 26 shooting a 129 grain bullet does NOTHING a 270 Weatherby shooting a 130 grain bullet does. The only difference in these two calibers is that Nosler brass for the 26 will cost you $2.64 a piece and Nosler brass for the 270 will cost you $1.62 a piece. Nosler created a round that can not beat a round that was created in 1943. I'm sure there is probably a year back order at Nosler for these rifles though.

Zeke · Mar 6, 2015

You're probably right. Not very many "new" things will substantially beat the "old" things. Until we have more technological advances, we have about all the bases covered.

With that said, I love to tinker and will continue to try unique a different stuff including new cartridges.

The new 28 Nosler might have a little more appeal, for me, at this point.

Zeke

Remember, never deny a guy an opportunity to tinker with something new.

salasj · Jun 2, 2015

LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-15 AT 08:24PM (MST)[p]I finally started working up some loads. I'm happy so far
This is my load I got using Hodgdon US869
Berger VLD 140 grain
US869
90.5 grains
Nosler brass
WLRM
C.O.A.L. 3.300
Fps 3,359
Group. 134http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos3/5671us86990.5grains140bergervld20150602162930.png

440sixpack · Jun 2, 2015

Buddy of mine has one of the first 48's built in 26 Nosler. 500 rounds and the barrel is toast. I don't think this round will ever be very popular.

The 28 Nosler I'm very interested in it has far greater potential.

Stay thirsty my friends

lve2143 · Jun 8, 2015

Far greater potential HOW.

I'm a Huge 7mm, .280 fan

The .264 will be the best
bullet out this hull.

Bar none

440sixpack · Jun 8, 2015

I am a 264 win mag fan, but the reason the 7mm Rem Mag is 500 times more popular is justified. same thing with these two.

Put a 180 gr Berger in the 28 Nosler and anything the 26 Nolser can do the 28 can do better.

Stay thirsty my friends

lve2143 · Jun 16, 2015

Any hull with a belt???
Why are we still there??

Load a lot of .280

Good hull

440sixpack · Jun 17, 2015

The Noslers are based on the 404 so it has no belt.

I agree the belt is useless but it doesn't hurt anything either, you headspace of the shoulder anyway.

In theory the 300 WSM should be more accurate than the 300 Win Mag, the WM has a belt and the neck is too short. yet the 300 Win Mag is one of the most accurate rounds out there.

They all work it's just whatever you like best.

Stay thirsty my friends

Zeke · Jun 17, 2015

"they all work it's just whatever you like best"

Boy, 440, ain't that the truth?

We debate lots of theoretical elements of ballistics and sprinkle a few of our discussions with anecdotal examples and try to pass all of it off as fact.

We all have our own preconceived notions about what's best. Some ideas parallel mine and others do not. It doesn't make anyone wrong.

Belt or not, short or long, skinny or fat, big or little, I like them all! (cartridges, that is)

Zeke

440sixpack · Jun 17, 2015

I agree . but to tell the truth we had ever cartridge we ever needed 40 years ago all we're doing now is reinventing the wheel to sell new wheels.

In the end 100 or 200 FPS really means little , belts or belted means nothing. long or short action means less than nothing.

What has changed shooting is the bullets , optics and rangefinders more than anything else.

Stay thirsty my friends

Zeke · Jun 17, 2015

You're correct.
The quality of the rifle, optics and ammo components have improved and therein lies the reason for some spectacular performance. It has way way way less to do with the "new" cartridges.... although I like them all!
Zeke