E-Tip or Barns?
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I've had far better reults with the TSX and the TTSX.
You need the grooves, they just work.
Stay thirsty my friends
You need the grooves, they just work.
Stay thirsty my friends
trophyhunter
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Read some reviews before you make your choice. Personally we went with the E-Tips. Read on some reviews where some rifles didn't group well with the Barns bullets. Guess it depends on your rifle. Barns makes good bullets as stated above. Just depends on whether your rifle likes them I guess. I didn't want to chance it so we went with the E-Tips. When loading you have to seat the E-Tips a little deeper per the Nosler instructions that come with the bullets. Being solid copper and harder the seating helps reduce the chamber pressure.
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Hey 440 did you have to reduce the powder load or not with your Barnes bullets or do use the same powder charge as lead bullets? I had to reduce the max. Load per Nosler spec's. For the E-Tips.
Thanks for replying in advance.
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I shoot the same load ( on the warm side ) in a 24" custom 300 win mag with both the TSX and Partition. with the 180 Partition I'm at 3160 with the TSX I'm 3180.
Since I live 30 miles from Nosler and can get seconds pretty easy my first choice is always Nosler. I cannot shoot this same load with the E tip and my accuracy and velocity were not up to par.
I am a Nosler fan, but IMO Barnes owns this market. Hornady GMX maybe? those I gaven't tried.
Stay thirsty my friends
Since I live 30 miles from Nosler and can get seconds pretty easy my first choice is always Nosler. I cannot shoot this same load with the E tip and my accuracy and velocity were not up to par.
I am a Nosler fan, but IMO Barnes owns this market. Hornady GMX maybe? those I gaven't tried.
Stay thirsty my friends
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It's not just about brand names. My rifle I hunt with shoots tight groups with the Barnes 168 grain TTSX Groups under .7 . But it wont shoot the Barnes LRX 200 grain bullets. Same with the Nosler LR 190 grain bullets 1.9 inch groups@ 100. The old Nosler Partition 200 grain factory load .50 @ 100 .Go figure . I am not giving up on the Nosler LR 190's with the right powder charge I hope to get them into a tighter group. To take effect of there great B/C. So each gun may like or dislike a different bullet weight or powder charge. Just find what your gun likes. But for killing large game like Elk at any distance the Barnes does a great job.
I doubt one is better than the other. The E-Tip works great without grooves. If you can get them to group they'll do the job. I hammered a bull with a 180 grain E-Tip out of a .300 RUM a few years ago. Personally I like the Accubond better, but worked up the E-Tip in case I ever HAVE to use a solid for legal reasons. mtmuley
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>It's not just about brand names.
>My rifle I hunt with
>shoots tight groups with the
>Barnes 168 grain TTSX Groups
>under .7 . But it
>wont shoot the Barnes LRX
>200 grain bullets. Same with
>the Nosler LR 190 grain
>bullets 1.9 inch groups@ 100.
>The old Nosler Partition 200
>grain factory load .50 @
>100 .Go figure .
>I am not giving up
>on the Nosler LR 190's
>with the right powder charge
>I hope to get them
>into a tighter group. To
>take effect of there great
>B/C. So each gun may
>like or dislike a different
>bullet weight or powder charge.
>Just find what your gun
>likes. But for killing large
>game like Elk at any
>distance the Barnes does a
>great job.
^^^what he said. EXACTLY!
Don't buy one thinking it will shoot better. The only way to know is to actually shoot them. There's a bunch of simple surmising out there without any knowledge to back it up!
Zeke
>My rifle I hunt with
>shoots tight groups with the
>Barnes 168 grain TTSX Groups
>under .7 . But it
>wont shoot the Barnes LRX
>200 grain bullets. Same with
>the Nosler LR 190 grain
>bullets 1.9 inch groups@ 100.
>The old Nosler Partition 200
>grain factory load .50 @
>100 .Go figure .
>I am not giving up
>on the Nosler LR 190's
>with the right powder charge
>I hope to get them
>into a tighter group. To
>take effect of there great
>B/C. So each gun may
>like or dislike a different
>bullet weight or powder charge.
>Just find what your gun
>likes. But for killing large
>game like Elk at any
>distance the Barnes does a
>great job.
^^^what he said. EXACTLY!
Don't buy one thinking it will shoot better. The only way to know is to actually shoot them. There's a bunch of simple surmising out there without any knowledge to back it up!
Zeke
Zeke
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PS: About 6 or so years ago I worked up a load to 3365 fps, then shot in Randy's tunnel, the Barnes 168 TTSX with 101 grs of Retumbo. Damn! Those things shoot like a champ out of my 300 ultra! 9 elk and 3 antelope later and I'm still impressed with the bullet!
Zeke
Zeke
If you're shooting long distance pick a light for caliber bullet. I'm using Barnes 140's out of my 7stw. 500 yards on an antelope last week was devastating. Any higher up the neck and I would have taken its head off. I always try noslers cause I live 5 minutes away but everything I use shoots better than their bullets.
