Winchester white box ammo malfunction

maddog58

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My son today had a Springfield CDs 9mm blow up on him. Case blown apart right at the end of the case right past the primor. Luckily he had eye protection on so he wasn't hurt. Bent the ##### out of the gun. Anybody ever have this happen to them. Going to contact Winchester as the gun is trash now. Winchester white box ammo
 
Maddog58

Save everything. The Brass, damaged Brass, the Box with Lot # and the rest of the ammo + Weapon. The normal process is to bring the Weapon and everything, including the sales receipt for the ammo to: The Dealer you bought the Weapon from.

Have Weapon owner and/or user write a detailed letter and add such with the above (Retain a copy).

This is the beginning of the Process. The FFL Dealer will know what to do. I would save back a few un-used rounds from the box "While" the FFL Dealer watches and acts similar to a Notary.

No need to call Winchester.

Jagerdad
 
I'd call Winchester. The dealer that sold the weapon has nothing to do with the malfunctioning ammo. Have a smith look at it and take a ton of pictures. Then wait to see what Winchester says. mtmuley
 
mtmuley, I will not and am not arguing your valid points.

Since there is no manner to say, from our computers what "The Birth" of the problem was/is, most major companies have a Protocol and Legal chain of custody, Process Chain to follow or, they may instantly claim they are unable to properly investigate the claim.

If done properly, a Laboratory of either or Both the weapon manufacturer and ammo manufacturer shall conduct tests. Such test are out of the realm of any third/forth party gun smith. His opinion may carry no weight.

Emotions and Tempers are normal in such matters but the Deep-Pockets folks know how to test products and come to a conclusion. I offered my free advice just due to having seen in the past, folks who get itchy and jump forwards to fast, end up with a tarnished claim.

I have no dog in this fight.

Jagerdad :)
 
The first and foremost is that your son is okay!

The rest is just dealing with the ammo and gun companies to recoup some money.

Best of luck to you and I'm glad you already had a bit of good luck with your son.

Zeke
 
>The first and foremost is that
>your son is okay!
>
>The rest is just dealing with
>the ammo and gun companies
>to recoup some money.
>
>Best of luck to you and
>I'm glad you already had
>a bit of good luck
>with your son.
>
>Zeke


Zeke Such a politician ! ;-)
 
Bummer deal all the way around and glad your son is ok. Have to say I'm kinda surprised since I have had great luck with the ammo described. I have a side business dealing in firearms/suppressors/select fire machine guns. I will do demo's with the machine guns and let clients try them. I don't trust other folks ammo so I make them buy the white box ammo from me. I like my reloads of course the best, but simply don't have enough time to load as much is required to feed a bunch of machine guns.

Just estimating but it would be in the neighborhood of over 10,000 rounds of white box ammo that I have watched clients fire through the machine guns, and haven't witnessed anything as bad as you described. Obviously it only takes one screw up on who ever is manufacturing the ammo to have a issue, and sadly your son was the victim of one of those issues. Hope you get it resolved quickly.
 
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>
>Zeke Such a politician ! ;-)
>
>

Actually just more of a realist than anything else.

There are only 2 things to look at in this scenario: physical health and money. His son is okay so it only become an issue of money. It doesn't diminish what they went through but now it's about recuperating the cost of the gun and ammo.

By the way, maddog, don't be too quick to think the issue is only with the ammo. It could just as easily been the fault of the semi-auto lockup. ie: firing out of battery!

Like Jag said, KEEP (and document) EVERYTHING!

Good luck and I hope you get some satisfaction.
Zeke
 
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>>
>>
>>Zeke Such a politician ! ;-)
>>
>>
>
>Actually just more of a realist
>than anything else.
>
>There are only 2 things to
>look at in this scenario:
>physical health and money. His
>son is okay so it
>only become an issue of
>money. It doesn't diminish what
>they went through but now
>it's about recuperating the cost
>of the gun and ammo.
>
>
>By the way, maddog, don't be
>too quick to think the
>issue is only with the
>ammo. It could just as
>easily been the fault of
>the semi-auto lockup. ie: firing
>out of battery!
>
>Like Jag said, KEEP (and document)
>EVERYTHING!
>
>Good luck and I hope you
>get some satisfaction.
>Zeke
:) :)
 
Maddog58, From Aug 6th to your last Post 13th, now being the 20th.... I am always interested in Cradle-to-Grave "Events". Can you, when you have time, denote every step you took. IE: If the first place you went was ______ and they slammed the door on you or were welcomed; Professionally...?

Example: If the first place you went to was Springfield and they are doing their part. If such is true did you stop there or did you initiate a parallel path and contact Winchester and/or someone else...?

If any one+ contact asked questions, did you offer up such verbally or email or pictorial...Macro pictures of weapon/ammo, send in receipts, parts, brass/ammo...?

Your story, unlike some threads, is helpful to readers so lessons learned may be shared. A Son and/or others could have been injured or killed. Spending your time to educate us will be, I'm sure; Appreciated.

Jagerdad
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-20-16 AT 03:48PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Aug-20-16 AT 03:46?PM (MST)

The gun is actually owned by my oldest son. From what he told me he sent pictures of the shell casing and gun to Springfield Armory after speaking to them on the phone. They said to ship it back to them and they would handle it. Don't believe he contacted Winchestet yet. He took pictures and had the local gunsmith look at it before shipping it. Hopefully it all works out
 
Quick update. Springfield was going to repair the pistol but since it is a non roster gun in Ca they can't ship the gun back here due to different serial numbers after repair. So they offered him his choice of 5 other pistols that are on the roster and are sending it this week to a FFL dealer for him to pick up. Can't complain about the customer service . He said they didn't give him any BS at all after they examined the pistol. I like a company that stands behind their products
 

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