what would you considered a decent group at 600 yrds

wildfin

Active Member
Messages
394
I spent a bunch of time finding a bullet that shot good in my rem standard 700 in 300 win, I started using a berger 190 vld hunter and at 200 the groups are the tightest I have seen in that gun, 1 1/2 inch or less.As I started to reach out to 600 I was more like 10 inches and in 2 separate groups of 3 one was missing in each,finding a 600 yrd location with no wind and flat and not 100 degrees is not easy in so. calif. I have to wait for the conditions best for experimenting and when shooting the 2 groups it was gusty and hot with a lot of heat waves so I stopped, I hope that I can finish my work to extend my range with confidence soon.
 
You'll find that long shooting is challenging due to conditions rather than rifle limitations.

Keep shooting and learn your limits . The range I use goes beyond 1100 yards, the hits build confidence and the misses help me establish my personal limits, and I'm here to say that most folks, including myself, have no business attempting shots on game like we see on t.v.
 
Is your rifle factory? Any upgrades? What scope are you running?
600 yards is a ways but still I would expect at least MOA groups. I strive for 1/2MOA with my rifles.
Mirage is a tough situation to shoot groups in.
Keep practicing and fine tuning your load and I imagine you can shrink those groups.
 
What is your twist rate? That is a long bullet and may not be stabilized enough. That would be my first guess, if you have bullets completely off the target.
 
Stadard Remington .300 Win should be 1-10. That twist will work with a 190 VLD. Berger has a great twist rate calculator if you want to check.Sometimes good short range performance doesn't equate to good long range. Try a different bullet. mtmuley
 
yes it is a factory gun with a timney triger,floated the barrel ,a 4x12 leupold cds scope. still need to shoot a lot more to fine tune my max responsible range, fortunately I dont think I have ever needed to shoot outside 400 in 45 years and would try to close the distance before making a risky shot every time.thankyou for your responses
 
Sounds like your off to a good start.
Is it a wood stock? I would recommend bedding the action. Will definitely help with consistency.
 
I agree with the others above.

If you're not achieving MOA or less then either the rig or skill level is lacking....but there no denying that damn wind is an issue and probably the single biggest limiting factor.

Personally if I can keep all bullets in a 6" target (on target) 95% of the time, that's my max range. For some guys that's 100 yards and 1000 for others.

"Know before you go" trying an iffy shot on a live critter.

Zeke
 
Any rifle that can hold a 11/2" group at 200 yrds. shouldn't have trouble keeping it inside of 8 inches at 600 yrds. in my opinion.
Sometimes conditions make groups get larger than they should.
The effects of conditions on the rifle and the shooter can and will be a factor. Practice is key to learning the limits and honing our skill to push those limits.
Keep killing targets and you'll soon know what you need to take to the feild and kill game at distances farther than average.

Good luck and have fun shooting.
 
I must add that I shoot a 300 win. mag. in a Winchester model 70 featherweight.
1" groups at 200 are as good as I get. The groups at the 500 yrd. target average at 4" and I get the same when I shoot at 600. All these groups I get are fired from prone ,resting over my pack that I use for hunting.
I do consider a minimum of a 16 power scope for me for shots over 400 yrds. and it helps keep a consistent sight picture.
A more powerful optic might help you tighten your groups.
 

Click-a-Pic ... Details & Bigger Photos
Back
Top Bottom