Victory Arrows
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I've shot VAP V1's the past 4 years and I've been very satisfied with them, but I do have some comments/considerations which you may find useful. As for the specific model you asked about, I'm not sure I believe the "low torque" marketing language used in the name. It might be marketing for the sake of marketing. I wonder if these area the newer model of mine, which are 2-5 years old depending on the arrow. Mine have pretty very similar GPI (8.9 vs 9.5) and rotational torque is only caused by your fletching if it has helical. How much torque can there really be on an arrow from a fletch?
I have arrows with both 3 degree and 0 degree helical. As much as I try to find a difference, they penetrate the same and have the same point of impact out to 60 yards. I also had 6 degree helical and they were slightly louder (wind drag) and hit maybe an inch lower at 60 yrds (maybe). In my testing the 6 degree was overkill, so switched to 3. At some distance helical and rotational torque should start to impact flight and reduce KE, but it just doesn't happen inside 60 yrds for me. I also practice at 70 and 80 yards, but my patterns aren't conclusive enough for me to confidently make a statement. I see far greater improvements in working on form or changing up my stabilizer (and adding a side bar). I bring this up because I didn't know what aspects of this arrow was of interest to you....if the "low torque" was appealing or the arrow in general.
My experience with my VAPs - surprisingly durable (I've hit all kinds of stuff, including a redwood tree at the last outdoor 3D shoot I did), fly well, group well. Any issues I've had were never an issue with the arrow, but rather form or bow tuning (once I figured it out). These arrows penetrate well. I see noticeably greater penetration in hay bails, but didn't see much of a difference in foam targets (maybe half inch better or less). The benefits of of small diameter arrow in wind drift is harder to evaluate because you're rest needs to be adjusted based on arrow diameter, so I couldn't really do a side by side test easily and have consistent cross wind.
All but one of my deer kills have been pass throughs. In my setup I opted to avoid using outcerts because I heard past models bent, especially in bag targets or if you hit hard objects. Thus I used Deep 6 incerts, which have been great, no issues at all. There is a downside to Deep 6 incerts though, you have limited broadhead choices because they have different threads. My preferred broadheads have always been available in Deep 6 (Rage for expandable and Slick Trick for fixed), so it wasn't an big issue for me. But they don't offer a Judo in Deep 6, which is pretty annoying because I enjoy stump shooting or going after grouse when elk hunting is slow. I've heard the latest VAP outcerts are much more durable and hold up better so I may try some outcerts this offseason and then determine if I want to switch. Plus I wouldn't mind adding a little more weight up front, which is easy to do with the different weights and material (stainless vs aluminum) outcerts.
My bow specs....Mathews Helium, 29.5 DL, 70lbs, arrows fly at 298 fps.
Arrow: 300 spine arrow w/ 2 inch blazers @ 3 degree or 0 helical, total 416gr.
Hope that helps....
I have arrows with both 3 degree and 0 degree helical. As much as I try to find a difference, they penetrate the same and have the same point of impact out to 60 yards. I also had 6 degree helical and they were slightly louder (wind drag) and hit maybe an inch lower at 60 yrds (maybe). In my testing the 6 degree was overkill, so switched to 3. At some distance helical and rotational torque should start to impact flight and reduce KE, but it just doesn't happen inside 60 yrds for me. I also practice at 70 and 80 yards, but my patterns aren't conclusive enough for me to confidently make a statement. I see far greater improvements in working on form or changing up my stabilizer (and adding a side bar). I bring this up because I didn't know what aspects of this arrow was of interest to you....if the "low torque" was appealing or the arrow in general.
My experience with my VAPs - surprisingly durable (I've hit all kinds of stuff, including a redwood tree at the last outdoor 3D shoot I did), fly well, group well. Any issues I've had were never an issue with the arrow, but rather form or bow tuning (once I figured it out). These arrows penetrate well. I see noticeably greater penetration in hay bails, but didn't see much of a difference in foam targets (maybe half inch better or less). The benefits of of small diameter arrow in wind drift is harder to evaluate because you're rest needs to be adjusted based on arrow diameter, so I couldn't really do a side by side test easily and have consistent cross wind.
All but one of my deer kills have been pass throughs. In my setup I opted to avoid using outcerts because I heard past models bent, especially in bag targets or if you hit hard objects. Thus I used Deep 6 incerts, which have been great, no issues at all. There is a downside to Deep 6 incerts though, you have limited broadhead choices because they have different threads. My preferred broadheads have always been available in Deep 6 (Rage for expandable and Slick Trick for fixed), so it wasn't an big issue for me. But they don't offer a Judo in Deep 6, which is pretty annoying because I enjoy stump shooting or going after grouse when elk hunting is slow. I've heard the latest VAP outcerts are much more durable and hold up better so I may try some outcerts this offseason and then determine if I want to switch. Plus I wouldn't mind adding a little more weight up front, which is easy to do with the different weights and material (stainless vs aluminum) outcerts.
My bow specs....Mathews Helium, 29.5 DL, 70lbs, arrows fly at 298 fps.
Arrow: 300 spine arrow w/ 2 inch blazers @ 3 degree or 0 helical, total 416gr.
Hope that helps....
