Utah main Draw

eyeman · Apr 10, 2017

anybody have an idea of when the draw may happen....Thanks and good luck.

Zeke · Apr 10, 2017

I'm only going by memory but I think we start hearing about credit card hits by mid May.

Zeke

elkhunterUT · Apr 10, 2017

Zeke is correct - Credit card hits start around May 15th or 16th and email results come out closer to the end of May.

eyeman · Apr 10, 2017

Thanks gents and good luck

BIGJOHNT · Apr 10, 2017

May 31st is the official date. But most of us get credit card hits and our letter threw email before.

deerkiller · Apr 10, 2017

>May 31st is the official date.
>But most of us get
>credit card hits and our
>letter threw email before.

they dont send out letters in the mail any more, unless specifically requested by you, after the results have been posted on line at the end of may.

BIGJOHNT · Apr 10, 2017

>>May 31st is the official date.
>>But most of us get
>>credit card hits and our
>>letter threw email before.
>
>
>they dont send out letters in
>the mail any more, unless
>specifically requested by you, after
>the results have been posted
>on line at the end
>of may.

Deerkiller thats what I said Letter threw email.

osu92 · Apr 13, 2017

I have always thought Oregon was bad about getting draw results back but Utah take's the cake by far. Draw app deadline in early March and results don't come out until nearly 3 months later......painful.....

marburg · Apr 13, 2017

Utah has the market cornered on ridiculous wait times....

Bwht4x4 · Apr 13, 2017

Believe it or not but California's wait times are unbelievably fast. Most years less than 12 days until results come out. About the only thing they do right.

Birdman · Apr 13, 2017

Before they issue the results, they have to have the number of tags that is going to be issued. That takes place on the 27th of April at the Wildlife Board Meeting. They want the winter results and counts.

deerkiller · Apr 13, 2017

its bullshit they application period before they set and release the permit numbers. You know exactly how much you are playing for when you buy lottery tickets. Why should we be applying for permits that we have no idea on the numbers we are gambling for. There's no reason the draw app period cant be the first 2 weeks in may after permit number are determined and then release draw results the first of may

Servehim · Apr 13, 2017

Only one reason that I can think of.... A month of interest on our money hitting the Utah DOW accounts. NM had a 3 week turnaround. Nice job guys/gals .

goofyelk · Apr 14, 2017

Permit fees are not charged until after the draw.
Application fees only during the wait.

No 'interest' if they are not holding money.

Birdman · Apr 14, 2017

If your not HAPPY deerkiller, then go to the racs or wildlife board meeting and see about changing it. It does no good to sit on mm and complain. That goes no where.

deerkiller · Apr 14, 2017

>If your not HAPPY deerkiller, then
>go to the racs or
>wildlife board meeting and see
>about changing it. It
>does no good to sit
>on mm and complain.
>That goes no where.

Yet here we all are bitchin and crying about how we think we are personally getting screwed on every hunting topic in this state ???

Servehim · Apr 15, 2017

My bad on the state benifiting from our application money ...confused Utah with Colorado. I apply in 6 states and have acculated significatly point in each state. It helps me emenslly to get results quickly in order to make good choices. NMDGF is amazing in the application 3/22 and draw results 4/12. WOW. Absolutely no reason for states to delay appl deadline and results by 2+ months. IMHO

Califelkslayer · Apr 16, 2017

Wyoming elk draw and results in 2 weeks, Wyoming deer/antelope results by late June, early July, go figure.

shedneck · Apr 16, 2017

Since when have hunters - the true conservationists - been so negative about a state wildlife agency trying to make money? Why would any hunter be upset about more money for wildlife? Even if Utah held onto the entire tag fee, which it doesn't, why would a true hunter complain about that? In my opinion, a true hunter wants these agencies to have large accounts. I'm so sick of the argument about fees and fronting tag costs.

marburg · Apr 16, 2017

Wyoming does have frustratingly late results. Hard to plan an archery hunt in August if you don't know about the tag until July. Wish they would move theirs up, but it sounds like they are considering making elk later instead.

Servehim · Apr 16, 2017

Humm, sounds like you might get a lot of joy just sending the state G/F offices a check, by all means go for it. My beef is the extended turn around from application to draw. Both Wyo and NM have very quick turn arounds and I applaud them . It helps hunters paying for tags to plan vacation time for scouting and the hunt. Just respectful IMO.

elkfromabove · Apr 17, 2017

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>My bad on the state benifiting
>from our application money ...confused
>Utah with Colorado. I
>apply in 6 states and
>have acculated significatly point in
>each state. It helps
>me emenslly to get results
>quickly in order to make
>good choices. NMDGF is amazing
>in the application 3/22 and
>draw results 4/12. WOW.
>Absolutely no reason for states
>to delay appl deadline and
>results by 2+ months.
>IMHO

No need to apologize! The DWR DOES benefit from application fees AND they do draw interest on not only their share of the fees but, in the beginning, on the full amount. In fact, they may draw interest on some of it for several years per the DWR's budget, ie; 2016 Expenses: Other/Pass through: $10,250,274, which is held by the State Treasurer in an interest bearing account designated solely to the use of the DWR.

The latest info I have is a few years old, but per the DWR's contract with Systems Consultants out of Fallon NV, the split is $3.01 to SC, $6.99 to DWR. And though the full $10.00 amount is collected by SC, it is sent electronically on a daily basis to a DWR interest bearing account. DWR uses some of that for administering the draws, but SC is only paid their portion ($3.01) in scheduled increments per their performance of the contracted calendared tasks on the contract with the final payment being adjusted to clear the books. In the meanwhile, whatever money is in that account draws interest for the DWR. Also, per the budget, there is no requirement that the DWR spend all that money in order to receive money from the state next year, so it may sit there for quite some time!

Finally, the above scenarios apply for ALL the draws, ie; Big Game, Antlerless, Crane, Swans, Grouse, Turkeys, Bears, Cougars, etc.

If you folks are gonna argue, at least you need to know what you're arguing about!

Edited: FWIW, I once asked about the delay (I'm not sure whether it was at a Wildlife Board meeting or a Mule Deer Committee session.) and was told that the DWR has the draw as early as possible in order to get a commitment from hunters (both resident and non-resident) before they apply for other states.