Let Your Voices Be Heard

coug_hunter · Feb 18, 2018

KSL; Debbie Dujanovic (Make sure to choose investigative team on drop down menu)
https://www.ksl.com/public?nid=205

Get Gephardt
Email: [email protected]

Utah Attorney General Office
Email: [email protected]
Contact Form: https://attorneygeneral.utah.gov/contact-us

Also please email the Director & Assistant Directors of the DNR
Director - Mike Fowlkes - [email protected]
Assitant Director - Rory Reynolds - [email protected]
Assistant Director - Michael Canning - [email protected]

As everyone has read in other posts. There is something going on with the Expo drawings that is corrupt or something is wrong with the computer program doing the drawings. I am disappointed that I didn't draw a tag but would be less disappointed if I knew I had a fair chance to draw. When certain names (Will & Heather Farrar are names that stick out to me) continue to come up year after drawing highly coveted tags, something is up (I believe truly random people draw every year; however there seem to be certain names that draw year after year.) The odds of drawing these tags are very very slim. I read the same thing every year, people are upset & people complain. It seems there are enough angry voices that we can be heard. I've sent emails off to Debbie Dujanovic, Get Gephardt, & the Utah Attorney General office. The SFW, DNR, & Mossback (These repeat names continue to be tied to them) are stealing opportunities away from you, your family, & your friends. This has been overlooked for far too long. Please follow the links about and submit your frustrations and facts that you know. Hopefully enough of you will follow through and we can get an investigation into this and know once and for all if this system truly is fraudulent.

Dconcrete · Feb 18, 2018

I would definitely agree that this year, and last year, it would?ve been very strange if Will Farrar drew tags.

Muley_73 · Feb 18, 2018

LAST EDITED ON Feb-18-18 AT 07:55PM (MST)[p]Coug,
You called out a several people and organizations. How sure are you? Let's say you get the investigation that you're asking for and there is zero foul play proven. Are you willing to have it damage you personally? Are you so sure that you'd bet your career? Your house? What you willing to put up as calatural?

Hawkeye,
Haven't you personally witnessed the draw? Yes or no?

Founder · Feb 18, 2018

I think it's silly to think there's ?something going on? because a few people have drawn tags a few times.
I'd feel like a dope emailing those folks above with the evidence you have.
You won't see me calling conspiracy cause a few people who probably apply for everything, every year, have drawn 2 or 3 tags since it all began. Just good luck is what I think. But hey, some people believe aliens live among us, so you believe what you want.

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Dconcrete · Feb 18, 2018

What should my ?facts and frustrations? be?

Fact number 1: topgun says utah is corrupt. Because there's no transparency.

Fact 2. Zim says utah has earned its place as the number one sheister location.

Fact 3. People on the internet say it's suspect because a few people have drawn a few tags.

Clearly, no body has ?facts?.

Let's move to frustrations.

Frustration 1. I haven't drawn a tag myself.

Frustration 2. See number 1.

Frustration 3. See number 1 and 2.

I agree with founder. I'd feel like a dope.

I guess between all the lawyers and legal experts here, I'm amazed that nobody has filed a lawsuit or charges of fraud.

This whole thing is asinine. I'd be embarrassed to give anyone you emailed, your name.

hossblur · Feb 18, 2018

Its funny to me to read these. $fw is crooked because some rich folks pulled a tag and beat odds.

REALLY? I'm a HUGE critic of $fw and even I don't think the group is that stupid. They won. They got their cash pipeline locked up for 14 yrs. Sweet gig, no worries, continuous money flow. No accountability. About the only thing they can do to screw that up is tweak the drawing.

For what? Farrars will pay Doyle, Doyle will funnel in big money to the expo, $fw will get paid.

The thing that irritates me.

WHERE WERE YOU CONTACTING SCREAMING, "MAKING UOUR VOICE HEARD", when $fw was ACTUALLY cheating the system? When they were awarded this show to start with? WHERE WAS YOUR VOICE?

They won. THE DON set up a he'll of a system. Based on a drug dealers business model.

"Give them a taste, they'll come back for more"

The only way this disaster ends, IS IF YOU QUIT FEEDING IT. Buuuuutttttt, about end of Jan next year we will get the posts from all t he guys just "jonesing" for a little taste.

Your a year late with your "concern"

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

hornkiller · Feb 19, 2018

They throw in random names so people don't ask questions! I seen the same names come up year after year. people that donate lots of money or those "special to $.f.w. people" look back the first 8 years see how many tags john bear drew ya he was high up in $$$.f.w. and other affiliates of the cons! Thank god i stopped making the rich richer 5 years ago.

Dconcrete · Feb 19, 2018

So they throw random names in to keep the public at bay.?

When will Denny Austed get his chance
To draw? Or is he in on the scam too?

He keeps quiet and ?let's? the farrar?s Keep drawing their free tags, and in return, they ?let? him keep buying expensive tags. I think you guys are certainly on to something.

What about any of the other big money guys? Why aren't their names drawn every year??

What it is you guys ?think? you know, isn't so.

Deer · Feb 19, 2018

I think it's best to assume that it's not happening I am sure there have been scandals in the past and I always assume positive until proven otherwise.

YBO · Feb 19, 2018

LAST EDITED ON Feb-19-18 AT 02:15PM (MST)[p]Shyt are you telling us a dead man has been drawing a coveted the last 2 years?
Yep it must be rigged.

Zim · Feb 19, 2018

Dconcrete, Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. A simple Google search will confirm my comments. Utah has a very well earned reputation over decades of activity. But I don't even have a dog in the expo raffle fight. I bought into the UTDWR regular draw long before it got corrupted. But fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I was well educated by the time SFW took over the Expo Raffle. Didn't get suckered into that cluster duck. Never will. 100% of that coin remained in my pocket, with the exception sent to a legitimate wildlife org.......... RMEF.

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Wherever SFW goes, scandal and corruption follow:

http://kutv.com/news/local/allegations-of-corruption-surround-utah-hungtin-and-conservation-expo

https://www.cascwild.org/don-peay-the-man-who-would-be-king-baron/

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs...ares-north-american-hunting-model-“socialism”

http://www.standard.net/Recreation/...16-Western-Hunting-and-Conservation-Expo.html

http://www.mtbullypulpit.org/2012/06/pox-on-fox.html

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013...on-essentially-buy-utah-division-of-wildlife/

http://westernvaluesproject.org/tax...hunting-energy-industry-over-hunters-anglers/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/u...-but-hunters-cry-foul.html?smid=pl-share&_r=2

http://www.themudflats.net/archives/25891

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4054427-155/rolly-lawyers-criticism-of-herbert-leads

Muley_73 · Feb 19, 2018

Zim,
Everyone's evangelist is the best one....right.

Muley_73 · Feb 19, 2018

Coug/Twill,
I'm still waiting to see what you're willing to put up as collateral for you claims?

JT · Feb 21, 2018

I'm sorry guys but if it smells like shyt it usually is shyt and this reeks. I've always and will probably continue to go up and put in for the tags but I've come to realize that there are probably tags set aside for the real lucky ones, you can't tell me that certain people are just that lucky. For good luck sake I'll say ? if it's rigged I'll draw a Henry?s tag?. LOL!!

Muley_73 · Feb 21, 2018

JT,
What if 50,000 people say it smells great and they like it. And 50 are whining and complaining about it. What does that make it? A piece of shyt or 50 whinny, never happy or satisfied shyts?

hossblur · Feb 21, 2018

Listened to Jay Scott. He was talking about while he was at the expo everyone was pro expo and pro sfw.

So it must be true? 90k deer hunters in Utah, 20k went to the expo. I guess the remainder of the 70k must be pro SFW, after all the dudes at the expo were?

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

hornkiller · Feb 21, 2018

Lmfao there is alot more than 50 people that think it smells muley! You are only hearing a very small percentage of the people that HATE what $$$$.f.w. does and stands for! Like I said before I'm glad I stopped putting money in the crooks pockets. I just feel bad for all the youth hunters that could benefite from all the tags STOLEN from the state draws to make a few people rich!

Zim · Feb 21, 2018

>Zim,
>Everyone's evangelist is the best one....right.
>

Using an "evangelist" analogy in reference to SFW? Really? I think you'd been better off with "charlatan".

**********************************************
Wherever SFW goes, scandal and corruption follow:

http://kutv.com/news/local/allegations-of-corruption-surround-utah-hungtin-and-conservation-expo

https://www.cascwild.org/don-peay-the-man-who-would-be-king-baron/

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs...ares-north-american-hunting-model-“socialism”

http://www.standard.net/Recreation/...16-Western-Hunting-and-Conservation-Expo.html

http://www.mtbullypulpit.org/2012/06/pox-on-fox.html

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013...on-essentially-buy-utah-division-of-wildlife/

http://westernvaluesproject.org/tax...hunting-energy-industry-over-hunters-anglers/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/u...-but-hunters-cry-foul.html?smid=pl-share&_r=2

http://www.themudflats.net/archives/25891

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4054427-155/rolly-lawyers-criticism-of-herbert-leads

Muley_73 · Feb 21, 2018

You guys always claim that. But for there being so many that feel the way you and the other 49 feel, you all sure don't do shyt about it other than complain on the
Interweb.

Don't feel took bad for the kids, they have more opportunity than ever before. And that is a fact!

JT · Feb 21, 2018

LOL!! Yeah just because 50k like it doesn't necessarily make it right. Come on , that doesn't make a bit of sense. I guess I'm part of the problem, I will continue to go up there year after year knowing damn well it reeks but just the thought of drawing a tag keeps me going. Just call it what it is and quit trying to sugar coat a turd.

Muley_73 · Feb 21, 2018

LAST EDITED ON Feb-21-18 AT 11:48PM (MST)[p]Gives a chance to win tags I would have zero chance to draw. Every year for $5. Nothing shytty about that.

JT your philosophy sounds like a methhead complaining about the meth problem in a community.

Tikka · Feb 22, 2018

>LAST EDITED ON Feb-19-18
>AT 02:15?PM (MST)
>
>Shyt are you telling us a
>dead man has been drawing
>a coveted the last 2
>years?
>Yep it must be rigged.

I guess nobody else gets your comment...