Access to Lanowners Property

brutus54 · Jul 23, 2016

LAST EDITED ON Jul-23-16 AT 12:48PM (MST)[p]I seen were somebody was selling a private land only voucher but it said you could NOT hunt the landowners property. This is not right when you buy a voucher you get access to the land it was awarded to this includes UNIT WIDE vouchers. Below is out of the guide book and online.
Just a heads up if anybody bought a voucher and was not told they had access. Whoops That's Landowners with a d. lol

The transfer of a voucher to a hunter must include permission to access and hunt all of the registered land for which the voucher was awarded, for the entire season for which the voucher was awarded. The landowner must NOT discriminate among hunters entering the land or include restrictions other than manner of access (i.e. foot, horseback, vehicular) restrictions reasonably necessary to prevent damage to the land.

ORIONTHEHUNTER · Jul 23, 2016

Good luck getting that enforced. They wouldn't and still don't very often enforce brokering of tags.

brutus54 · Jul 23, 2016

>Good luck getting that enforced. They
>wouldn't and still don't very
>often enforce brokering of tags.
>

This is about getting access to the property not about the sale of the vouchers. Once they put your name on the voucher they have to give you access to the landowners land.
Brokering is a whole different topic.

oilcan · Jul 23, 2016

Personally I don't see what the problem is there telling you up front so there will be no surprises as long as the voucher is priced accordingly.
There are people who have access to property but need a tag this would be a good situation for those people.

brutus54 · Jul 23, 2016

LAST EDITED ON Jul-23-16 AT 11:42AM (MST)[p]>Personally I don't see what the
>problem is there telling you
>up front so there will
>be no surprises as long
>as the voucher is priced
>accordingly.
>There are people who have access
>to property but need a
>tag this would be a
>good situation for those people.
>

When you buy a voucher you get access to the land the voucher was awarded too. They can NOT tell you up front you can't hunt the property is my point. You get access rights with the vouchers!

ORIONTHEHUNTER · Jul 23, 2016

Oh I know I am just saying the whole voucher system is a joke and hasn't worked like it was intended and nothing has ever been enforced since its inception. You are 100% correct in that access is suppose to accompany a voucher.

gopher1 · Jul 23, 2016

The thing I ran into was , is a guy able to hunt all of their property or just what they portion they point you in. It worked out for me , just wondering.

txhunter58 · Jul 23, 2016

"Personally I don't see what the problem is there telling you up front so there will be no surprises as long as the voucher is priced accordingly."

As the OP stated, the problem is they are forbidden do this. As a prerequisite to being allowed to obtain vouchers, they agree to allow access. You buy a voucher, you have access. Even if they say no, you should be able to access the land to hunt. Let them try and pin a trespassing charge on you.

Problem is you can get away with it for one year, because they can't keep you off the land, but they won't sell you one next year

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)

brutus54 · Jul 23, 2016

>The thing I ran into was
>, is a guy able
>to hunt all of their
>property or just what they
>portion they point you in.
>It worked out for me
>, just wondering.

This is what it says on the CPW web site below. I don't know how you would find out exactly how much land they have. Look at maps? Public records maybe? I have a old Plat and Brand book that shows ownership. I know it has to be a minimum of 160 contiguous acres.

It is the hunter?s responsibility to ensure they have received proper maps, access points, contact information, or any other pertinent information PRIOR to acquiring a voucher. CPW CANNOT release this information to the hunter.

FrontRange · Jul 25, 2016

If you know what county the land is in you can usually find out property ownership information including property boundaries through the counties GIS system and tax accessor data. This doesn't mean that all the property is enrolled in the land owner voucher program but it is a starting point.

pwrlineman · Aug 1, 2016

Your correct that a landowner can not deny you access to their property if they sale you a landowner voucher. This was something I was unaware of myself until an outfitter friend recently explained it to me. He has a good friend who is eligible for premium tags in Colorado but refuses them because legally he can not deny access to his ranch once he sales the vouchers. I'd like to see people start forcing these landowners to open their gates after buying from a tag broker.

LoneWati · Aug 6, 2016

To be quite honest , there is not very many animals on the so said property the vouchers are good for during the season they have a tag for. Really a subsidy for animals that may be there in a later season or after the season. Ex: Landowner gets 2nd season deer buck tags, yet has ground that is wintering ground and doesn't see much activity till 4th season or later.That doesn't make it right to deny access that is awarded with the tag. But the animals are usually highr in elevation.

lostinOregon · Aug 7, 2016

So just a warning for some folks. landowners with a lot of land have more than one application. I know a landowner who has 3500 acres and has three separate applications for vouchers. You could get a voucher from a landowner but it might not be for that piece of property. The landowner and DOW know which are which but DOW is not talking so you can't just google their property and start hunting if you have a voucher so be careful.

Rich

DesertGhillie · Aug 16, 2016

>So just a warning for some
>folks. landowners with a
>lot of land have more
>than one application. I know
>a landowner who has 3500
>acres and has three separate
>applications for vouchers. You could
>get a voucher from a
>landowner but it might not
>be for that piece of
>property. The landowner and DOW
>know which are which but
>DOW is not talking so
>you can't just google their
>property and start hunting if
>you have a voucher so
>be careful.
>
>Rich

I believe that only happens if they are not contiguous (connected) agricultural acres. If they ARE contiguous, you're supposed to be able to access it all.