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Captain_coues
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I didn't get anything. Its quiet because this is mostly a Utah site. There is a site that's mostly AZ based but its really watered down, although I'm a member but under another username. Watered down? I mean the site automatically changes the words Hell to Heck, and Damn to Dang. If you want to see activity on az, you will find more posts there. I do find the AZ site entertaining, but for different reasons.
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It wasn't a little while ago! You could hear me yelling 3 doors down, and the neighbors probably thought about calling 911. 
I already have a NR antelope tag in Unit 8, and a NR late bull elk in 8 also. Imagine my shock after seeing a pending charge for another Coues deer tag in Unit 8, after drawing last year and killing a Booner!!!!!!!!! Now the long wait for postings, to see if it is early or late.
My wife is certainly going to get her traveling in this Fall, and I bet it costs me a few presents too.
I already have a NR antelope tag in Unit 8, and a NR late bull elk in 8 also. Imagine my shock after seeing a pending charge for another Coues deer tag in Unit 8, after drawing last year and killing a Booner!!!!!!!!! Now the long wait for postings, to see if it is early or late.My wife is certainly going to get her traveling in this Fall, and I bet it costs me a few presents too.
PIOCHE2014
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Me and the wife drew 12aw nonres 6points
PIOCHE2014
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Sorry early
>PIOCH was it a early or
>late Hunt ?
>
>so you guys think there done
>with the draw or is
>there more to come ?
>
As per a phone conversation with the F&G Friday: All of the successfull credit card apps were put into one big file and sent out early morning "If your credit card did not show pending charges by nooniish, then your CC company is slow in posting or you were unsuccessful."
We can only hope she was wrong!
>late Hunt ?
>
>so you guys think there done
>with the draw or is
>there more to come ?
>
As per a phone conversation with the F&G Friday: All of the successfull credit card apps were put into one big file and sent out early morning "If your credit card did not show pending charges by nooniish, then your CC company is slow in posting or you were unsuccessful."
We can only hope she was wrong!
PIOCHE2014
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Some are slower then others for sure maybe tomorrow!!!!!
LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 05:31PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 05:21?PM (MST)
>I'm thinking the changes to the
>draw system might have screwed
>me. Maybe a few people
>jumping up and getting a
>few tags and maybe a
>few with more just cashing
>out.
The grapevine tells me there were many people that sold there points to Folks so they could average up. Although I think it's good idea, this point guard system needs to be modified just a bit so you DO NOT get an additional point if you turn your tag back in. As it is now, you would be foolish if you did not sell your points the one time and then simply turn your tag back in after the draw. I'm not sure everyone understands that, if you turn your tag back in...you still get an additional bonus point as if you were unsuccessful in the draw. This just screams for abuse! On top of that, this will most certainly result in some point creep for the rest of us. It simply created a points market in which the Folks that have the extra $$$ can buy points and hunt some of their favorite units almost every year. Why get in line and build points, like the rest of us, if you can just buy them and leap frog over everyone every year!!!
>I'm thinking the changes to the
>draw system might have screwed
>me. Maybe a few people
>jumping up and getting a
>few tags and maybe a
>few with more just cashing
>out.
The grapevine tells me there were many people that sold there points to Folks so they could average up. Although I think it's good idea, this point guard system needs to be modified just a bit so you DO NOT get an additional point if you turn your tag back in. As it is now, you would be foolish if you did not sell your points the one time and then simply turn your tag back in after the draw. I'm not sure everyone understands that, if you turn your tag back in...you still get an additional bonus point as if you were unsuccessful in the draw. This just screams for abuse! On top of that, this will most certainly result in some point creep for the rest of us. It simply created a points market in which the Folks that have the extra $$$ can buy points and hunt some of their favorite units almost every year. Why get in line and build points, like the rest of us, if you can just buy them and leap frog over everyone every year!!!
Foolish? How about having principles? Anyways, as a max points nonresident deer applicant holding for 13B, I would not want to miss a single year of trying to draw the tag as it is maybe a 50:50 thing that I'll draw under the new allocation before old man time gets the best of me. I would never sell and give up my chance for a single year.
>Foolish? How about having principles? Anyways,
>as a max points nonresident
>deer applicant holding for 13B,
>I would not want to
>miss a single year of
>trying to draw the tag
>as it is maybe a
>50:50 thing that I'll draw
>under the new allocation before
>old man time gets the
>best of me. I would
>never sell and give up
>my chance for a single
>year.
Agreed...but you have a ton of Folks out there that are just a few short of max points and, knowing they most likely wouldn't draw anyways, they can sell those points. Then you have some of the max point holders that might have already drawn a conflicting tag in another state. How much would a "one less that max" point holder pay to go in with someone like that? As it is now, that max point holder can turn the tag back in and will still have max points the next year and also have a ton of $$$ in his/her back pocket. Their points added together, and then averaged up, would give the lesser point holder max points. How about the Folks that just don't hunt, but have been building points for family members or friends....they would be smart to sell those points the one time. And there would certainly be a line of Folks looking to buy them!
I don't like it at all and IMO it's unethical as well! It is VERY unfair to those of us that don't have the funds to buy the points needed every year. Again, I like the point guard system...BUT, to stop the abuse, they need to stop giving that additional point!
>as a max points nonresident
>deer applicant holding for 13B,
>I would not want to
>miss a single year of
>trying to draw the tag
>as it is maybe a
>50:50 thing that I'll draw
>under the new allocation before
>old man time gets the
>best of me. I would
>never sell and give up
>my chance for a single
>year.
Agreed...but you have a ton of Folks out there that are just a few short of max points and, knowing they most likely wouldn't draw anyways, they can sell those points. Then you have some of the max point holders that might have already drawn a conflicting tag in another state. How much would a "one less that max" point holder pay to go in with someone like that? As it is now, that max point holder can turn the tag back in and will still have max points the next year and also have a ton of $$$ in his/her back pocket. Their points added together, and then averaged up, would give the lesser point holder max points. How about the Folks that just don't hunt, but have been building points for family members or friends....they would be smart to sell those points the one time. And there would certainly be a line of Folks looking to buy them!
I don't like it at all and IMO it's unethical as well! It is VERY unfair to those of us that don't have the funds to buy the points needed every year. Again, I like the point guard system...BUT, to stop the abuse, they need to stop giving that additional point!
oilcan
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This is an easy fix if applying as a party if one tag is surrendered they both must be surrendered. It protects the entent of the change and people from abusing it. I think the only people that would have a real problem are the people trying to "buy" there way into a tag.
LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-16 AT 07:45PM (MST)[p]>I don't believe AZ bonus points
>can be sold or traded.
>
>There are certain rules for donating
>tags but they're pretty specific.
>
Fact...there are no rule against selling points. You can, and this was confirmed here on this site (look at post #24)
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID33/2979.html
This just started with the new point guard system. In fact, there was a person that auctioned his/her points off on E-bay! Last I heard, the auction had gone to $2,200.
>can be sold or traded.
>
>There are certain rules for donating
>tags but they're pretty specific.
>
Fact...there are no rule against selling points. You can, and this was confirmed here on this site (look at post #24)
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID33/2979.html
This just started with the new point guard system. In fact, there was a person that auctioned his/her points off on E-bay! Last I heard, the auction had gone to $2,200.
>This is an easy fix if
>applying as a party if
>one tag is surrendered they
>both must be surrendered. It
>protects the entent of the
>change and people from abusing
>it. I think the only
>people that would have a
>real problem are the people
>trying to "buy" there way
>into a tag.
^^^BINGO!^^^
Again, look at post #24 in this thread...
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID33/2979.html
>applying as a party if
>one tag is surrendered they
>both must be surrendered. It
>protects the entent of the
>change and people from abusing
>it. I think the only
>people that would have a
>real problem are the people
>trying to "buy" there way
>into a tag.
^^^BINGO!^^^
Again, look at post #24 in this thread...
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID33/2979.html
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