Sighting in rifles

GoBigorGohome

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Hey fellow hunters!
I'm trying to zero in some rifles. I want to find out at what yards do you Zero in your rifles.
I've been told numerous:
Zero in at 100 yards
1.5-2 inches high @ 100yards
Zero in at 250yards
25 yards but how high?
What yardage do you fellow hunters zero in your rifles at?
Thanks in advance
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-07-16 AT 08:53PM (MST)[p]For me, it depends on caliber, muzzle velocity, & bullet weight. Once I know those variables, I try to maximize my point blank range, which is different depending on whether I'm hunting deer or elk. For deer, I want to keep the point blank vital zone inside of 6 inches, and for elk, I use 8 inches. So for deer for example, I want the bullet trajectory to maximize at three inches over point-of-aim, and then I figure out what distance it crosses at three inches below point-of-aim. For my rifles, the average point blank range is about 320 yards (25-06, 7mmRM, & 300WSM). Thus, I know that out to 320 yards I'm confident that I'll put a bullet in the deer's vitals by just holding the cross hairs in the middle of those vitals (about 1/3 the way up the shoulder crease), without making any adjustments for distances. This method takes almost all of the guess work out of any shots inside of 320 yards. Once I've got that down, I practice enough at longer distances that I know how much my bullet will drop at 350, 400, 450, and 500 yards. This method worked pretty well with factory loads, and I've since been able to fine tune when I started hand loading.

If you want to share what caliber and bullet weight you're shooting, I do have book that I can reference that can give you a good starting point on how high you want your bullet to hit at 100 yards to maximize your point blank range. I've found it to be a pretty good starting point, and I usually only have to make minor adjustments to it at the range.
 
150grain for .270 and 100grain for .243
I've heard numerous tips and I wanted to find out which one is more common to use. I was told to sight in at 25 yards dead on but how high will I be at 100,200,300yards?
Sight in at 1.5 " high at 100 yards and be zero at 200 yards
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-07-16 AT 11:02PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Oct-07-16 AT 10:38?PM (MST)

According to the book (The Target Book for North American Big Game), 150 grain 270 has an average muzzle velocity of 2,845 fps:
25 yards is 0" high
50 yards is 1 3/16" high
100 yards is 2 7/16" high
135 yards is 3" high
200 yards is 1 7/8" high
280 yards is 3" low
300 yards is 5" low
400 yards is 19" low
500 yards is 41" low

Maximum point blank range for deer is 280 yards.

100 grain for 243 has an average muzzle velocity of 2,980 fps:
26 yards is 0" high
50 yards is 1 1/16" high
100 yards is 2 9/16" high
140 yards is 3" high
200 yards is 2 1/8" high
290 yards is 3" low
300 yards is 4" low
400 yards is 17" low

Maximum point blank range for deer is 290 yards.

These are averages, but they're a good starting point. Let me know if you want the info for any other bullet weights. Good luck.
 
Mozey!
Thanks for the help!
So if I hold my zero at 25yards I'll be good up to 280/290 yards... that's plenty of range... so I should hold dead on up to 280/290 yards for both guns.
 
Theoretically, yes. But make sure you test it at the range before you actually take them on a hunt. Other factors also come into play such as barrel length, ballistic coefficient, etc.

In my experience, the zero at 25 yards is just to get you on the target at longer distances. I would put more emphasis on getting the 100 yard mark right than the 25-yard zero.
 
No I don't have a hunt. I'm just getting information on sighting in rifles. I've heard numerous ways to zero in. Just wanted to to get what was common.
 
I have sighted most of my centerfire rifles in at +3 high at 100 yards for years. Learned this from a book by Bob Hagel. With most calibers .257robert-300win if your muzzle velocity is in the 2800 to 3000 fps range you will be dead on approximately 250-260 yards. You can hold center of buck/bull to 350ish. You still have to check each individual rifle/load to see exactly where zero is. It has worked well for me especially with the wife's .257 Ackley, my 7mm Rem Mag and the son's 30-06.
 
Yes for sure.I have it sighted 2 high at 100 but thats also for my .270 .243 and .22-250.Its kind of been the rule of thumb for me but think I may not be getting the best performance out of rifles.These days these rifle can be dialed in better than ever if a guy is willing to put in the work to find the right loads....I am but am just not experienced enough to know without asking ...So thank You...
 
Rio:

165 grain 30-06 has an average muzzle velocity of 2,825 fps:
25 yards is 0" high
50 yards is 1 3/16" high
100 yards is 2 11/16" high
135 yards is 3" high
200 yards is 1 3/4" high
275 yards is 3" low
300 yards is 5" low
400 yards is 20" low
500 yards is 42" low

Maximum point blank range for deer is 275 yards.
 
shanqwa,

When I compared the results for Rio's to yours, I figured out that I told you the wrong number for 270 150-grain 100 yard mark. It should be 2 11/16" high. Sorry about that...
 
Thanks Mozey, I am headed out to work on it , Im actually fairly close to that, and decided to shoot 165gr(not to hunt just shot) as I have 2 boxes and decided to send a couple . I was happy to see that the pill hit very close to the 150 grain.My 2B hunt is pretty set now , going in early am the day before and get camp set, get out on Navajo for a couple hours on the boat and then maybe find a starting spot for the opener....Im actually getting a bit excited...Ive tried Hornady and Federal loads and my 30/06 shoots Winchester and simple Remington core loct just alot better...Thanks for the help again mozey...
 
I had mine zero in by a professional. As I don't have a lot of places to shoot rifles. The gun was zero at 300 yds. He said that would work best for elk as well as Whitetail.

Joe


"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
 
I wouldn't trust anybody to sight in my rifles. I don't know if it's me or them but I always find when I shoot someone else's rifle I'm off compared to what they shoot. To get it close is fine but to get it dialed in no way I let anyone do it.
 
I agree with you on just letting another guy sight in my gun but I had a gunsmith company do it. It was in a locked position in a controlled area. I will say it is very accurate. More accurate them me! Lol! I only hunted with it once on The Sargents in NM, I downed my elk @ 250yds +/- dropped dead where he stood (double lunged him)

Joe

"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
 
When considering maximum point blank range, you should consider the effects of accuracy and shooting up and downhill. half your shots will be high by half of your group size. And if you are shooting up or down a steep angle, your shots will be even higher. I think it's best to go for more like 2" high at 200 than 3" and start thinking about holding over sooner rather than being forced to think about holding low on the 150 yard shots with a bit of incline. Just my preference, it's all about what you want.
 
This one got me wanting more information. If you have a range finder that calculates for uphill and downhill will you still hit high or low? So if I am shooting down a steep canyon and the range finder tells me 300yds (set on angle mode) do I shot as if the shoot was 300 or do I still have to compensate more? The actual distance from me to the animal is 300yds according to trigonometry but how does the elevation change still affect the shoot?
 
mozey thanks for the help, shot was 185 yards standing broadside, 06 barked and he flipped over....I didn't loose him in the scope watched him flip....On a different note , Ill never again shoot a lead bullet of any kind....But again thanks padna...
 
mozey, can you when ya have the time help me with a ballistic chart for a 30-30? Id like to know how far scoped this little rifle would be good, its a scoped Marlin 336.I have most 30-30 rounds with the exception of the Hornady Leverution...
 
125 grain 30-30 has an average muzzle velocity of 2,570 fps:
22 yards is 0" high
50 yards is 1 7/16" high
100 yards is 3" high
190 yards is 0" high
200 yards is 0 11/16" low
220 yards is 3" low


Maximum point blank range for deer is 220 yards.

150 grain for 30-30 has an average muzzle velocity of 2,390 fps:
21 yards is 0" high
50 yards is 1 5/8" high
100 yards is 3" high
185 yards is 0" high
200 yards is 1 1/8" low
220 yards is 3" low

Maximum point blank range for deer is 220 yards.

Odd to me that they're both the same MPBR, but that's what the book says.
 

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