Wolf Lawsuit Filed against Wyoming Plan

The HSUS just filed suit here in Wisconsin to halt our first Wolf hunt ever. The season began Oct 15 and 1800 tags holders (draw) already killed 170 of the bastards (Wolves not HSUS people).That tells you how many wolves we have. The judge in Madison won't hear the case until mid december so hopefully they'll kill a couple hundred more by then. We've been fighting for this season for 6 years. looks like the fight will go on everywhere. Its a dirty shame.
 
Damn the luck!!

For some reason, I was very hopefull that no lawsuits would be filed against Wyo-Wolf hunting....

Slim and none as far as wolf sightings nor hearing nor tracks-sign in the Predator Zone I have hunted...I better get back up there and see if I can harvest a wolf, before it gets shut down again for a few years....

Robb
 
Who would have ever thought Wyomings plan would end up in court again?????

My...I'm shocked.
 
34 wolves have been tagged in the various units within the trophy zone since the Wyoming hunt began. Only 18 more wolves to be tagged to fill the total quota in the trophy zone. With the cold weather finally starting to show, more wolves will be dropping. I would not be surprised if the trophy quota is filled before the defendants in the lawsuit have to legally file their responsive pleadings.

The wholesale slaughter that the eco-elites have predicted and will argue has not taken place in either the trophy or predator zone.I ran into 4 wolves on the North Fork of the Shoshone a couple weeks ago while deer hunting. I wasn't fast enough to get a shot off while they were chasing deer. I am still looking even though my deer and elk season is over.

Buzz H, are you predicting a win for the eco-elites in their lawsuit? just wondering....
 
I dont know if they'll win or not...but its really sad that Wyoming chose to play marlboro man and risk it all for nothing.

As I've stated countless times for the last several years, the better route would have been to classify wolves as trophy game statewide and require a license statewide. Then, just open what is currently the predator zone to a 365 day season with no quota...but still require a license.

I believe that a piece of what the wolf hippies will use is their court argument is that wolf kills in the predator zone are not required to even be reported. That leaves the door open to the redneck wolf-haters to shoot them on sight statewide with ZERO ways for the the USFWS or WYG&F to verify where the wolves came from. That in turn can be used as a pretty convincing argument that the wolves in Wyoming will be threatened under the dual classification. I also believe that arguement has merit. At least if there was a license required statewide, the WYG&F would have statutory authority to impose mandatory reporting requirements and demand that wolf hunters return to kill sites if something is suspect. Also, mandatory reporting would be a great asset to the state to show that not many wolves are being killed in the predator zone...and also to identify if wolves are being illegally taken outside the predator zone.

Right now, the G&F cant even ask a wolf hunter in the predator zone to take them to a kill site. Further, taxidermists are not even required to game tag a wolf taken in the predator zone. The table has been set for the unscrupulous wolf haters via the dual classification to kill any wolf, anytime, statewide. That puts the entire State at risk of relisting if numbers drop lower than the requirements of the EIS. Which, IMO, has a very good chance of happening under dual classification. If wolves are relisted in Wyoming because the state fails to meet the required numbers...wolves will never be delisted again here, ever.

Wyomings plan is a fuggin' mess and has been since day one.

Considering past court cases, the fact that the USFWS has previously rejected WY's wolf plan, and the facts regarding dual classification I've posted...I'd say the wolf hippies have a pretty good case.

Wyoming plan has left the door open to a possible defeat via litigation...while MT and ID have cemented their management plans.

You tell me who did it right, you're the big-shot attorney that knows it all.
 
Buzz H,

I read your reply. I have no prediction as to the outcome. I don't think you can predict the outcome of any lawsuit. You especially can't do this until you know who all the players are. The outcome may very well be determined by who hears the case initially and where that decision is appealed. Anyone who thinks that the law is set in stone, and needs only be applied for an outcome, is either naive or a fool. One thing is certain, the Plaintiffs in the lawsuit are using it to generate big donations. If the eco-elites have no Goliath to slay, they have fundraising problems. The same goes for SFW and BGF. They all have attorneys and other staff that need to be supported.

I believe that 5 out of 6 scientists approved the Wyoming plan before it was finalized and adopted. I could be wrong on the actual number, but I think there was only one dissenting scientist. From a biological and legal standpoint, I think Wyoming made a mistake not requiring some reporting for kills in the predator zone. Maybe the Wyoming Game and Fish felt the burden of such reporting was too much for them to handle with current staffing. Maybe they didn't want to have to gather and provide the eco-elite groups with that information. What are you hearing about predator zone kills in your area?

With the mild weather in this area, I doubt that many wolves, if any, have been killed in the predator zone in this part of NW Wyoming. The low quota in the trophy zones was a good first step for Wyoming. I think it would have been filled by now in 3 of the 4 units here if the weather had not been so mild. It was in the high 60's last Wednesday when my son and I were deer hunting on the North Fork. The storms on the 9th and 10th may have changed that situation.

Only time will tell on this subject in Wyoming. I feel the same way about the wolf issue in other states. Nothing stays the same forever.

MH
 
BuzzH---You need to read the requirements the G&F has gone with in the Predator Zone as some of what you have stated is incorrect. I do, however, agree with your theory of what can possibly happen if a license isn't required. Here are the requirements right from the G&F website:

In areas of the state where wolves are designated as Predatory Animals, no license is required to take a wolf, and there are no closed seasons or bag limits. Anyone who takes a wolf in areas of the state where wolves are designated as Predatory Animals is required to report the kill to a game warden, biologist, other personnel at a WGFD regional office, or by phone (800-264-1280) within 10 days. Anyone who takes a wolf in this area of the state is not required to present the skull or pelt, but the WGFD is encouraging them to do so to aid in department efforts to monitor wolf populations and genetic interchange throughout the state.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-12 AT 02:41PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-12 AT 02:34?PM (MST)

Section 8. Take of Wolves Designated as Predatory
Animals.
(a) Any person who takes a wolf designated as a predatory
animal as set forth in Section 4(a) shall be required to report the
kill to a district game warden, district wildlife biologist or
Department personnel at a Game and Fish Department Regional
Office within ten (10) days after the date the wolf was killed.
The person shall be required to provide his or her name and
address, the date the wolf was killed, the sex of the wolf and
the location of the site of kill (identified by the section, range
and township or UTM coordinates). In addition, the
Department may request the person to voluntarily provide a
genetics sample from the wolf for testing to assess genetic
connectivity.
 
http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_9296e001-e7d7-50a8-85aa-5a38800a419f.html
A third lawsuit. Now we have two in D.C. and another in Denver. The Wyoming Governor Mead states in this article that they want these lawsuits transferred to Wyoming. The more lawsuits these eco-elites file in different jurisdictions, the greater probability that they will all end up consolidated and heard in a single federal district court. I am hoping that will be in Wyoming. These eco-elite groups are likely filing all these suits in hopes of gaining lots of donations before the end of the calendar year.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-07-12 AT 11:37PM (MST)[p]
I'd imagine we won't see the end of these lawsuit's until the US Supreme Court rules on it. I'd think we're still another 7 -10 years out.
 
http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_a59369fc-b35f-54d5-b6d3-7dda62cc95fe.html
The new lawsuits are being consolidated and both the federal government and the State of Wyoming are seeking the transfer of the cases to Federal District Court in Wyoming. I wonder why the eco-elites would fight the transfer of these lawsuits to Wyoming? At some point in time these eco-elites need to stop manipulating the judicial process.
 
Damn the luck.....I guess we all knew it was coming though.

Thanks for always keeping us up to date m-h.

Robb
 
IMO the others will also get sent to Cheyenne and with those number you posted I would think the antis won't like the final ruling that comes down.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-12-13 AT 08:15AM (MST)[p]Thanks again for this latest update MH! It looks like the antis have no problem lumping a bunch of forces in their favor, but don't seem to think proponents of the delisting and hunts should be able to do the same thing. I think we will see a favorable ruling from Judge Johnson upholding the Federal delisting and I hope the other two that are in DC right now are transferred out to him so all can be handled at the same time to give the antis a resounding defeat.
 
Another update on the Wyoming wolf litigation. Two cases will be heard by a Federal District Court Judge in DC and the other will be heard by Federal District Court Judge Johnson in Wyoming.
http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_54a5d4ac-c32d-5f0b-8afd-6e768bd13c52.html

This creates the possibility of two conflicting judicial decisions. In some ways, this would be similiar to the situation we had with the challenge to Obamacare where you had two different outcomes at the District Court level. The Judge in DC, who would not transfer the case to Wyoming, claims that the decision has national implications. The precedent is staggering. If upheld, you can expect the eco-elites to do even more forum shopping to find the right judge to hear their cases. Perhaps, down the road the grizzly bear delisting lawsuits will be heard in Los Angeles. Many of us thought that this forum shopping was bad enough when most of the wolf cases all ended up in front of Judge Malloy. At least he was from Montana. This may have been predicted as the outcome after oral argument and briefing in the DC case. That might explain why the Wyoming Game and Fish is proposing a cutback in the quota while these cases proceed through the system. A cluster f*** if there ever was one.
 
http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_53f8bd38-236d-5b80-80e5-c4e0226a7bed.html

The environmental groups that were challenging the Wyoming Wolf Plan in Federal District Court in Wyoming have now dropped their pending lawsuit. This means that the only pending challenge to the Wyoming Wolf Plan will now be heard in Federal District Court in Washington D.C. If you know the eco-elites like I do, this should come as no surprise. They aren't interested in a level playing field, fairness, compromise nor are they interested in what is best for Wyoming. They are only interested in their pro-wolf agenda which means the unfettered expansion of Canis Lupus throughout the State of Wyoming. The writing is on the wall here for the Wyoming Wolf Plan.
 
Just read the states (Wyoming) Motion to Set Aside Notice of Dismissal. While I am no lawyer, the state makes a very strong argument. Yes, there is a pretty good likelihood that Judge Johnson will not allow Wildearth Guardians et. al. to withdraw their lawsuit.
 
Dave,

I couldn't agree more. The state made a very good case for keeping it here and denying their motion. When i first learned of this development, I must admit that my faith on our legal system was once again shaken a bit. We can only remain a civil society if our justice system is truly fair and balanced. This really increases my concerns about Judge Jackson's decision to hear the case in Washington, D.C. Really makes you wonder if she is just another Donald Molloy.
 

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