Conservationists file lawsuit against elk feeding in Wyoming

junior · Jun 12, 2017

Looks like Chronic wasting disease is a concern if it reaches the feed grounds.

http://wyomingpublicmedia.org/post/conservationists-file-lawsuit-against-elk-feeding-ground

OchocoKid · Jun 12, 2017

Douchebags. if those elk don't get fed there they'll end up at Jackson so what difference does it make. and it's hard to say if it's an elk feeding ground or a wolf feeding ground in the first place. wolves decimate the elk there.

Even if Alkali gets closed the Gros Ventre grounds and Fish Creek will still be there.

I feed elk there a few days every year and very few years could the elk survive without feed . so how is it better to have a few thousand more join the 7-9 thousand at Jackson if CWD is your concern?

Maybe the goal is to move the wolves to Jackson so the Subaru drivers can enjoy seeing the elk being eaten alive from the hiway. I can't see any other justification.

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jm77 · Jun 12, 2017

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>Douchebags. if those elk don't
>get fed there they'll end
>up at Jackson so what
>difference does it make.
>and it's hard to say
>if it's an elk feeding
>ground or a wolf feeding
>ground in the first place.
> wolves decimate the elk
>there.
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>Even if Alkali gets closed the
>Gros Ventre grounds and Fish
>Creek will still be
>there.
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> I feed elk there a
>few days every year and
>very few years could the
>elk survive without feed .
> so how is it
>better to have a few
>thousand more join the 7-9
>thousand at Jackson if
>CWD is your concern?
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>Maybe the goal is to move
>the wolves to Jackson so
>the Subaru drivers can enjoy
>seeing the elk being eaten
>alive from the hiway.
> I can't see any
>other justification.
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>Stay Thirsty My Friends

The "goal" is to eliminate feed grounds.

elks96 · Jun 12, 2017

>>
>>Douchebags. if those elk don't
>>get fed there they'll end
>>up at Jackson so what
>>difference does it make.
>>and it's hard to say
>>if it's an elk feeding
>>ground or a wolf feeding
>>ground in the first place.
>> wolves decimate the elk
>>there.
>>
>>Even if Alkali gets closed the
>>Gros Ventre grounds and Fish
>>Creek will still be
>>there.
>>
>>
>> I feed elk there a
>>few days every year and
>>very few years could the
>>elk survive without feed .
>> so how is it
>>better to have a few
>>thousand more join the 7-9
>>thousand at Jackson if
>>CWD is your concern?
>>
>>Maybe the goal is to move
>>the wolves to Jackson so
>>the Subaru drivers can enjoy
>>seeing the elk being eaten
>>alive from the hiway.
>> I can't see any
>>other justification.
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>>Stay Thirsty My Friends
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>The "goal" is to eliminate feed
>grounds.

The goal is to eliminate hunting.

DW · Jun 12, 2017

>>>
>>>Douchebags. if those elk don't
>>>get fed there they'll end
>>>up at Jackson so what
>>>difference does it make.
>>>and it's hard to say
>>>if it's an elk feeding
>>>ground or a wolf feeding
>>>ground in the first place.
>>> wolves decimate the elk
>>>there.
>>>
>>>Even if Alkali gets closed the
>>>Gros Ventre grounds and Fish
>>>Creek will still be
>>>there.
>>>
>>>
>>> I feed elk there a
>>>few days every year and
>>>very few years could the
>>>elk survive without feed .
>>> so how is it
>>>better to have a few
>>>thousand more join the 7-9
>>>thousand at Jackson if
>>>CWD is your concern?
>>>
>>>Maybe the goal is to move
>>>the wolves to Jackson so
>>>the Subaru drivers can enjoy
>>>seeing the elk being eaten
>>>alive from the hiway.
>>> I can't see any
>>>other justification.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stay Thirsty My Friends
>>
>>The "goal" is to eliminate feed
>>grounds.
>
>The goal is to eliminate hunting.
>

Bingo!

OchocoKid · Jun 12, 2017

I agree. that was the whole intent of the wolf reintroduction. but shutting Alkali down changes nothing it just moves a few elk up or down the river.

Stay Thirsty My Friends

Millsworks · Jun 13, 2017

I think the idea of closing the feed grounds is not well thought out buy these people.
If it were to be shut down, it would need to be weened off over several years or mass elk die off could occur. Many elk have come to depend on that winter feed when Pickens get slim.

I've always thought a better option would be to spread the feeding out over the entire Western region.
Helicopter drops come to mind.

Just my opinion, but this would lesson concentrated herds and the impact on migration.

OchocoKid · Jun 13, 2017

In this case all 3 Gros Ventre feed grounds are only a few miles apart. the elk will go back and forth between the cabin and Fish creek grounds but most of the time once they work down to Alkali they fall on down to Jackson if they leave. so if you close Alkali they're gone.

Other than being stupid I really don't see what else this is about.

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TOPGUN · Jun 13, 2017

>I think the idea of closing
>the feed grounds is not
>well thought out buy these
>people.
>If it were to be shut
>down, it would need to
>be weened off over several
>years or mass elk die
>off could occur. Many elk
>have come to depend on
>that winter feed when Pickens
>get slim.
>
>I've always thought a better option
>would be to spread the
>feeding out over the entire
>Western region.
>Helicopter drops come to mind.
>
>Just my opinion, but this would
>lesson concentrated herds and the
>impact on migration.

No way that would be financially feasible flying copters with the amount of feed it takes for that many animals.

Millsworks · Jun 13, 2017

A huge cost is certainly what it would be I'm certain. I imagine it's already pricey as it is.

With the cost of non-resident game tags, the money to use choppers would certainly come likely from a increase in the elk price.
Guess I already don't like what I'm paying now, but an extra $30.00 or so wouldn't brake the bank.

Especially if it would improve the elk hunting over a larger area.

Dangerous words, I know.
Just my thoughts.

Homer · Jun 13, 2017

>A huge cost is certainly what
>it would be I'm certain.
>I imagine it's already pricey
>as it is.
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>With the cost of non-resident game
>tags, the money to use
>choppers would certainly come likely
>from a increase in the
>elk price.
>Guess I already don't like what
>I'm paying now, but an
>extra $30.00 or so wouldn't
>brake the bank.
>
>Especially if it would improve the
>elk hunting over a larger
>area.
>
>Dangerous words, I know.
>Just my thoughts.

...you miss the whole point millworks....the oponents care nothing of cwd ...or elk.

they hate hunting.

junior · Jun 13, 2017

I guess they haven't saw elk and deer naturally congregate in the winter and during migration?

Millsworks · Jun 14, 2017

Don't worry Homer, I'm well aware of the liberal motive.
Just putting my opinion out on the feeding.
I'm all for a winter feed program.
You and Ab Lincoln can rest easy, I live in a CWD area that has regulated us hunters to death and killed deer by the thousands in the name of saving wildlife.

OchocoKid · Jun 14, 2017

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A slow elk will be wolf chit the first night in that country. I suppose if you want to say the wolves are good for something it might be preventing CWD from spreading on feed grounds. as much as it pains me to say it.

CWD is not an issue in this case.

Stay Thirsty My Friends

Millsworks · Jun 14, 2017

I sure hope all the good people of Wyoming won't allow the CWD issue to be an excuse for killing off a population of game to supposedly prevent the spread of the disease.
That's been happening here in the Eastern panhandle of WV for a long time.

It hasn't stopped the spread of the disease, but it sure lowered the deer population to a third of what it was.
You guys in the West should realize just how good you got it.
We have to hunt two or three days on average just to see a buck now. The success rate on bucks here is less than 2%.
How's that for management.

nontypical · Jun 14, 2017

We don't need that can opened. CWD hasn't been a big issue here so far.

"Conservation" groups. That moniker makes me laugh whenever I read it. Why don't they just call them what they are? Anti-hunting preservation groups.

These groups thrive on speculation.