Grand Teton Park Goats

highfastflyer · Dec 4, 2018

What a crock! If you want your taxpayer dollars wasted then follow these Park service bureaucrats as they want to have a helicopter round up of the GTNP goats. Why not have a hunt instead? At least it would be a money maker and a way to control the population rather than wasting tax payer dollars like the bison round ups in Montana. These bureaucrats are out of touch with Wyoming citizens. https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/this...kRy8VJ-17tthLzYJm0dcAo4qeFOYErb9vIXSjQ-x79tRk

Blank · Dec 5, 2018

Since they started out in Idaho anyway, why don't you just give them back. I would love to see 2 hunts in Palisades again!!

highfastflyer · Dec 5, 2018

>Since they started out in Idaho
>anyway, why don't you just
>give them back. I would
>love to see 2 hunts
>in Palisades again!!

Knowing the Park officials, they would charge you to round them up then charge you again for each animal delivered. You?d pay double what they would cost due to all the rigorous testing and quarantine and then waste your tax dollars on top of it. These people are out of touch with their local citizens. Much better to have a Wyoming hunt and they'd allow 25% of the tags go to non residents.

DW · Dec 5, 2018

Too bad they don't apply the same logic to those invasive Canadian wolves.

"Invasive non-native species are unwanted and often targeted for elimination, especially when they have an impact on a native species."

#livelikezac

mtnrunner260 · Dec 6, 2018

https://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?parkID=68&projectID=47959&documentID=90336

Link to comment until Jan 6th.
Doubtful that they will change their minds but I commented that I would rather see relocation of the goats as opposed to lethal removal by park officials.

I doubt there is any left in the park service that can shoot a rifle anyway.

Wyosam · Dec 7, 2018

While it would be great to let sportsmen harvest those goats, they are looking at getting this done in the short term. Creating a hunt in a national park is not a snap your fingers type of thing. The elk hunt exists in GTNP because it was written in when the park was created. Hopefully they'll transport as many as possible to create additional hunting opportunities elsewhere.

jm77 · Dec 8, 2018

>While it would be great to
>let sportsmen harvest those goats,
>they are looking at getting
>this done in the short
>term. Creating a hunt in
>a national park is not
>a snap your fingers type
>of thing. The elk hunt
>exists in GTNP because it
>was written in when the
>park was created. Hopefully they'll
>transport as many as possible
>to create additional hunting opportunities
>elsewhere.

Maybe, just maybe they are moving too fast, ever think of that? Are the goats really effecting an already lackluster bighorn herd? Where's the evidence of that? They(goats) are a North American big game species and we are talking about removing a herd?

And the elk hunt wasn't written in when the Park was created, it was at a later date when the Park was expanded.

highfastflyer · Dec 8, 2018

I commented they should choose NO action as the options they are offering. If they truly cared about the Bighorn sheep they would provide some habitat management like prescribed burns, migration enhancement and planting winter range Forbs and browse on traditional sheep winter range along with predator and wolf and lion control. The goats are a native N. American game species so why waste tax paying dollars when a hunt could be scheduled and a revenue maker for the gov. vs. a huge tax payer waste on an expensive round up or helicopter shoot by professional air gunmen. The Park started the elk hunts in 1950 after Legislation was passed enacting the hunt. No option or the inaction choice is better than wasting taxpayer dollars and a hunt by Wyoming would be the best option but these out of touch bureaucrats won't even consider that. If you comment, please ask them to consider the hunt option.

nfh · Dec 8, 2018

I have been on 5 mountain goat hunts here in wyo. I always see the goats and sheep chilling with each other. I have seen zero effects ..

The mountain lions are so hard on them in there winter grounds

I hope they consider a hunt..