ducksbucksandbulls
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What is the date that the results come out this year?
Thanks
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Wyo elk draw date ?
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fullcurl74
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>Is it too soon to ask
>about the backdoor?
Sounds like the end of a first date.
>about the backdoor?
Sounds like the end of a first date.
GeorgeE
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>I'm glad they turn it around
>fairly quickly. Would have been
>nice to get results before
>AZ was due but at
>least AZ has point guard
>so if we get lucky
>and double up at least
>we can return the AZ
>tag and keep/gain points.
All changes next year, unfortunately...
'Ike'
Bowhunter...
>fairly quickly. Would have been
>nice to get results before
>AZ was due but at
>least AZ has point guard
>so if we get lucky
>and double up at least
>we can return the AZ
>tag and keep/gain points.
All changes next year, unfortunately...
'Ike'
Bowhunter...
BuzzH
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Unfortunately for who?
Very fortunate for the GF commission, draw department, field biologists, wildlife, resident and non resident hunters.
The field biologists can set quotas based on known conditions, known classification data, and harvest statistics rather than having to make a "guess" before they have that data.
The commission can set and approve final quotas/seasons and recommendations PRIOR to the drawing, which should have been happening all along.
The draw department will only have to conduct a single drawing, one time saving money.
Quota splits will be equitable between R/NR elk hunters based on KNOWN and commission approved quotas.
Downside is that NR hunters wont have their results until later.
Wayyyy more upside than downside...the right and correct move by the commission, FORTUNATELY.
Very fortunate for the GF commission, draw department, field biologists, wildlife, resident and non resident hunters.
The field biologists can set quotas based on known conditions, known classification data, and harvest statistics rather than having to make a "guess" before they have that data.
The commission can set and approve final quotas/seasons and recommendations PRIOR to the drawing, which should have been happening all along.
The draw department will only have to conduct a single drawing, one time saving money.
Quota splits will be equitable between R/NR elk hunters based on KNOWN and commission approved quotas.
Downside is that NR hunters wont have their results until later.
Wayyyy more upside than downside...the right and correct move by the commission, FORTUNATELY.
There may be wayyyy more upsides from your perspective, but it is an unfortunate move from my perspective. Time is my limiting factor when it comes to hunting. The early Wyoming draw helped me reduce the chance of doubling up on hunts and potentially wasting points on a hunt that I wouldn't be able to do. Now if Wyoming would allow you to turn in the tag and get your points back like Utah does, then I couldn't disagree.
GeorgeE
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-19 AT 10:46PM (MST)[p]>Unfortunately for who?
>
>Very fortunate for the GF commission,
>draw department, field biologists, wildlife,
>resident and non resident hunters.
>
>
>The field biologists can set quotas
>based on known conditions, known
>classification data, and harvest statistics
>rather than having to make
>a "guess" before they have
>that data.
>
>The commission can set and approve
>final quotas/seasons and recommendations PRIOR
>to the drawing, which should
>have been happening all along.
>
>
>The draw department will only have
>to conduct a single drawing,
>one time saving money.
>
>Quota splits will be equitable between
>R/NR elk hunters based on
>KNOWN and commission approved quotas.
>
>
>Downside is that NR hunters wont
>have their results until later.
>
>
>Wayyyy more upside than downside...the right
>and correct move by the
>commission, FORTUNATELY.
>
>
Settle down Buzz, only said unfortunately, as I liked finding out early to plan the year some...I've already read up on it from post Bob made long ago and yes it?ll be a good thing in the long run...It's not always a resident, non-resident thing!
'Ike'
Bowhunter...
>
>Very fortunate for the GF commission,
>draw department, field biologists, wildlife,
>resident and non resident hunters.
>
>
>The field biologists can set quotas
>based on known conditions, known
>classification data, and harvest statistics
>rather than having to make
>a "guess" before they have
>that data.
>
>The commission can set and approve
>final quotas/seasons and recommendations PRIOR
>to the drawing, which should
>have been happening all along.
>
>
>The draw department will only have
>to conduct a single drawing,
>one time saving money.
>
>Quota splits will be equitable between
>R/NR elk hunters based on
>KNOWN and commission approved quotas.
>
>
>Downside is that NR hunters wont
>have their results until later.
>
>
>Wayyyy more upside than downside...the right
>and correct move by the
>commission, FORTUNATELY.
>
>
Settle down Buzz, only said unfortunately, as I liked finding out early to plan the year some...I've already read up on it from post Bob made long ago and yes it?ll be a good thing in the long run...It's not always a resident, non-resident thing!
'Ike'
Bowhunter...
DoubleDropMuley
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>There may be wayyyy more upsides
>from your perspective, but it
>is an unfortunate move from
>my perspective. Time is
>my limiting factor when it
>comes to hunting. The
>early Wyoming draw helped me
>reduce the chance of doubling
>up on hunts and potentially
>wasting points on a hunt
>that I wouldn't be able
>to do. Now if
>Wyoming would allow you to
>turn in the tag and
>get your points back like
>Utah does, then I couldn't
>disagree.
Or maybe like Colorado , if ya want to keep your points you surrender all your money!! Damn now that's robbery at its finest.
>from your perspective, but it
>is an unfortunate move from
>my perspective. Time is
>my limiting factor when it
>comes to hunting. The
>early Wyoming draw helped me
>reduce the chance of doubling
>up on hunts and potentially
>wasting points on a hunt
>that I wouldn't be able
>to do. Now if
>Wyoming would allow you to
>turn in the tag and
>get your points back like
>Utah does, then I couldn't
>disagree.
Or maybe like Colorado , if ya want to keep your points you surrender all your money!! Damn now that's robbery at its finest.
BuzzH
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>There may be wayyyy more upsides
>from your perspective, but it
>is an unfortunate move from
>my perspective. Time is
>my limiting factor when it
>comes to hunting. The
>early Wyoming draw helped me
>reduce the chance of doubling
>up on hunts and potentially
>wasting points on a hunt
>that I wouldn't be able
>to do. Now if
>Wyoming would allow you to
>turn in the tag and
>get your points back like
>Utah does, then I couldn't
>disagree.
Your personal convenience and hunting schedule is of no concern to Wyoming's wildlife, regulations, or proper management. As such, this will be the last year of an early NR draw, already a done deal.
If you took the time to understand what this has caused in the past, and what its going to create moving forward, you would realize this is a very good thing for NR hunters.
>from your perspective, but it
>is an unfortunate move from
>my perspective. Time is
>my limiting factor when it
>comes to hunting. The
>early Wyoming draw helped me
>reduce the chance of doubling
>up on hunts and potentially
>wasting points on a hunt
>that I wouldn't be able
>to do. Now if
>Wyoming would allow you to
>turn in the tag and
>get your points back like
>Utah does, then I couldn't
>disagree.
Your personal convenience and hunting schedule is of no concern to Wyoming's wildlife, regulations, or proper management. As such, this will be the last year of an early NR draw, already a done deal.
If you took the time to understand what this has caused in the past, and what its going to create moving forward, you would realize this is a very good thing for NR hunters.
idahohuntr
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As such, this will
>be the last year of
>an early NR draw, already
>a done deal.
>
>If you took the time to
>understand what this has caused
>in the past, and what
>its going to create moving
>forward, you would realize this
>is a very good thing
>for NR hunters.
Will this change ensure that NR's can know in advance of the app deadline how many (if any) tags will be available in the random draw?
I was looking at a couple units this year and I got different answers from WYGF staff whether a random license would be available in the units I was considering. Would be nice to know for sure if a random tag is available to us poor saps without max points!
>be the last year of
>an early NR draw, already
>a done deal.
>
>If you took the time to
>understand what this has caused
>in the past, and what
>its going to create moving
>forward, you would realize this
>is a very good thing
>for NR hunters.
Will this change ensure that NR's can know in advance of the app deadline how many (if any) tags will be available in the random draw?
I was looking at a couple units this year and I got different answers from WYGF staff whether a random license would be available in the units I was considering. Would be nice to know for sure if a random tag is available to us poor saps without max points!
idahohuntr
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>NR Landowners draw first so there
>is no way to be
>certain. They could draw every
>nr license available.
Now I'm really confused! How does that work? Any NR landowner who wants a tag that owns (I'm assuming some minimum acreage)land gets a tag until they run out of tags? Then anything that might be leftover becomes available to public land hunters?
>is no way to be
>certain. They could draw every
>nr license available.
Now I'm really confused! How does that work? Any NR landowner who wants a tag that owns (I'm assuming some minimum acreage)land gets a tag until they run out of tags? Then anything that might be leftover becomes available to public land hunters?
>>NR Landowners draw first so there
>>is no way to be
>>certain. They could draw every
>>nr license available.
>
>
>Now I'm really confused! How
>does that work? Any
>NR landowner who wants a
>tag that owns (I'm assuming
>some minimum acreage)land gets a
>tag until they run out
>of tags? Then anything that
>might be leftover becomes available
>to public land hunters?
160 contiguous acres and at least 2000 use days of species in the prior 12 months. Wardens do the verification
>>is no way to be
>>certain. They could draw every
>>nr license available.
>
>
>Now I'm really confused! How
>does that work? Any
>NR landowner who wants a
>tag that owns (I'm assuming
>some minimum acreage)land gets a
>tag until they run out
>of tags? Then anything that
>might be leftover becomes available
>to public land hunters?
160 contiguous acres and at least 2000 use days of species in the prior 12 months. Wardens do the verification
>>NR Landowners draw first so there
>>is no way to be
>>certain. They could draw every
>>nr license available.
>
>
>Now I'm really confused! How
>does that work? Any
>NR landowner who wants a
>tag that owns (I'm assuming
>some minimum acreage)land gets a
>tag until they run out
>of tags? Then anything that
>might be leftover becomes available
>to public land hunters?
Here is the whole poop on landowner licenses:
Landowner licenses are applied for by a landowner applicant or a member of the landowner applicant's immediate family.
No more than two (2) landowner licenses for each big game species or spring or fall wild turkey will be issued for a parcel of
deeded land meeting specified qualifications in a calendar year. In no case may an individual landowner applicant apply for
or receive more than one (1) full price landowner elk license and one (1) reduced price landowner elk license or no more
than one (1) full price landowner antelope license or up to two (2) limited quota reduced price landowner antelope or no
more than one (1) full price landowner deer license or up to two (2) limited quota landowner reduced price deer licenses or
one (1) landowner license for a spring wild turkey and one (1) landowner license for a fall wild turkey in a calendar year.
Minimum requirements are 160 acres of contiguous deeded land and 2,000 animal use days annually by each species for
which applied. Nonresident landowners should contact their local game warden to determine eligibility for landowner
licenses well before January 22 for elk and May 15 for deer and antelope. Resident landowners should contact their local
game warden to determine eligibility for elk, deer or antelope landowner licenses well before May 15. If you do not know
who your local game warden is, contact the Department Regional Office in your area.
>>is no way to be
>>certain. They could draw every
>>nr license available.
>
>
>Now I'm really confused! How
>does that work? Any
>NR landowner who wants a
>tag that owns (I'm assuming
>some minimum acreage)land gets a
>tag until they run out
>of tags? Then anything that
>might be leftover becomes available
>to public land hunters?
Here is the whole poop on landowner licenses:
Landowner licenses are applied for by a landowner applicant or a member of the landowner applicant's immediate family.
No more than two (2) landowner licenses for each big game species or spring or fall wild turkey will be issued for a parcel of
deeded land meeting specified qualifications in a calendar year. In no case may an individual landowner applicant apply for
or receive more than one (1) full price landowner elk license and one (1) reduced price landowner elk license or no more
than one (1) full price landowner antelope license or up to two (2) limited quota reduced price landowner antelope or no
more than one (1) full price landowner deer license or up to two (2) limited quota landowner reduced price deer licenses or
one (1) landowner license for a spring wild turkey and one (1) landowner license for a fall wild turkey in a calendar year.
Minimum requirements are 160 acres of contiguous deeded land and 2,000 animal use days annually by each species for
which applied. Nonresident landowners should contact their local game warden to determine eligibility for landowner
licenses well before January 22 for elk and May 15 for deer and antelope. Resident landowners should contact their local
game warden to determine eligibility for elk, deer or antelope landowner licenses well before May 15. If you do not know
who your local game warden is, contact the Department Regional Office in your area.
idahohuntr
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Thank you for all the info - I was unaware of this. Can't say I like it - but it is what it is. Any realtors out there that specialize in 160acre/2000 use day lots in prime elk units???
>>There may be wayyyy more upsides
>>from your perspective, but it
>>is an unfortunate move from
>>my perspective. Time is
>>my limiting factor when it
>>comes to hunting. The
>>early Wyoming draw helped me
>>reduce the chance of doubling
>>up on hunts and potentially
>>wasting points on a hunt
>>that I wouldn't be able
>>to do. Now if
>>Wyoming would allow you to
>>turn in the tag and
>>get your points back like
>>Utah does, then I couldn't
>>disagree.
>
>Your personal convenience and hunting schedule
>is of no concern to
>Wyoming's wildlife, regulations, or proper
>management. As such, this will
>be the last year of
>an early NR draw, already
>a done deal.
>
>If you took the time to
>understand what this has caused
>in the past, and what
>its going to create moving
>forward, you would realize this
>is a very good thing
>for NR hunters.
You may be a nice guy in person for all I know, but dang you come across as rude as !@#$ on the internet.
Sorry that I thought it was an unfortunate change for some of us.
>>from your perspective, but it
>>is an unfortunate move from
>>my perspective. Time is
>>my limiting factor when it
>>comes to hunting. The
>>early Wyoming draw helped me
>>reduce the chance of doubling
>>up on hunts and potentially
>>wasting points on a hunt
>>that I wouldn't be able
>>to do. Now if
>>Wyoming would allow you to
>>turn in the tag and
>>get your points back like
>>Utah does, then I couldn't
>>disagree.
>
>Your personal convenience and hunting schedule
>is of no concern to
>Wyoming's wildlife, regulations, or proper
>management. As such, this will
>be the last year of
>an early NR draw, already
>a done deal.
>
>If you took the time to
>understand what this has caused
>in the past, and what
>its going to create moving
>forward, you would realize this
>is a very good thing
>for NR hunters.
You may be a nice guy in person for all I know, but dang you come across as rude as !@#$ on the internet.
Sorry that I thought it was an unfortunate change for some of us.
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