Exiled...

Funny, I was banned today to. I had very nicely and politely asked Ray in a PM why after I'd done a ton of research and took a ton of my time to reply to a post that a member had asked me to show prove of Christian violence, which I did, the thread was nuked. So I honest to god asked very politely why. I was told he would not give any explanations and he was too busy to reply.

(Really? A 2 min explanation?)

Again, I messaged him and very politely told him again that as a long standing member I was frustrated that he wouldn't take the time to understand why I was frustrated. No forum rules had been violated, and they were nuking posts. I then suggested that if they wanted to keep politics out of the forums, they should ban them altogether. I then made a comment about how if I'd posted something about how violent Muslims were (which gets posted all the time, and never deleted) there wouldn't have been any thread nuking.

He then replied with, I don't have time to debate you on every point. This is the end of this conversation (or something along those lines, I've been banned so I don't have the exact words)

To which I replied, Thanks for taking the time, pardon me for saying Ray, but you're an A-hole. That was the "offense" that got me banned.

Two years of posting, and sharing information with that community, and that's what I get. A cold shoulder when I file a valid complaint, and shown the door. Needless to say, my feather's are pretty riled as I enjoy posting and debating.
 
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HA here i am. took those 9u$$y# long enough to ban me. i actually walked away and bone adick got so upset he didint get the chance to ban me that he went on there and started calling me names and telling lies about me. it was pretty neat actually. miss me pope
 
Oh waaaahhhh, he called me names and told lies about me...
Get a grip, you're sounding like a 4 year old.
 
Pope knows me better than that littlebuf. I think that if anyone reads your post, they'll know the truth. I guess I'll copy and paste it and let your Yar friends read what kind of lies you post.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-01-10 AT 01:25PM (MST)[p]You asked a question if others felt as littlebuf does about you. I responded that I thought you were a jerk and so was Ray. Ray even had the nerve to call me names. What kind of owner/moderator is that? I have over 400 posts on that site and have made a few good freinds from there. If you didn't want to hear the answer why did you ask it? I will miss the people on that sight but not moderators like yourself. I am sure in your personal life you are a great guy. I am too. Just ask lokidog, let.it.fly, axle, dave d and a few others I have personally met and some I have hunted it. I was just voicing my opinion and I get banned. Sounds like others on here have had the same thing happen to them. Can you explain that? Why would I get banned for responding to your question? I respect you and others on that board and it will be missed.
 
>Bone, You are the liar. You
>asked a question if others
>felt as littlebuf does about
>you. I responded that I
>thought you were a jerk
>and so was Ray. Ray
>even had the nerve to
>call me names. What kind
>of owner/moderator is that? I
>have over 400 posts on
>that site and have made
>a few good freinds from
>there. If you didn't want
>to hear the answer why
>did you ask it? I
>will miss the people on
>that sight but not moderators
>like yourself. I am sure
>in your personal life you
>are a great guy. I
>am too. Just ask lokidog,
>let.it.fly, axle, dave d and
>a few others I have
>personally met and some I
>have hunted it. I was
>just voicing my opinion and
>I get banned. Sounds like
>others on here have had
>the same thing happen to
>them. Can you explain that?
>Why would I get banned
>for responding to your question?
>


I can almost hear the sobbing coming out of my laptop speakers...

You poor thing.
 
You'll have to call me more than a jerk to get banned. Wasn't me. You can keep working on it though by calling me a liar. I don't lie. Never have and never will.
 
Sorry for again crossing the line. I edited my post. I was angry and wrote before I thought about it.

Again sorry
 
Who cares, just changed your IP address and have at it. Probably piss ray and others off that thought they got rid of you. LOL
 
Hey hey, calm down guys. Don't worry, I contacted Oprah and she is going to be getting back to me on doing a show for you all. I figured if we went on Jerry, it would be nothing but screaming, yelling and throwing food amongst each other. At least on Oprah you can all be civilized while expressing your true feelings plus she's great with children. Hopefully in time, you can all wipe away the tears and put this terrible tragedy behind you. MM is a great network right now, but in time you'll find yourself exiled and alone on this site as well. Keep your chins up guys, I have faith in you that you'll all get through this. Now I have to go eat my lunch before it gets cold.
MS
 
Did you think about Dr. Phil? I'm just not sure Oprah could give them all the help they require. Dr. Phil could put em up in the "Dr. Phil house" and monitor their sob sessions, cut off their computer access, all the while looking for way's to intervene and set them straight. LOL
 
I got to say that some of the guys are right on here. Half the mods on huntwa are biased. They delete posts just cause they don't agree. Then you have guys like bone who is a hypocrite. But that is huntwa for you. Cream of the crop for mods. lmao.
 
Never would have defined myself as a hypocrite. LOL Wonder whos feelings I ruffled now. What is really interesting is that I have a reputation clear in Montana. LOL
 
I never have understood how someone could get kicked off a site. Bashing, name calling, crying, all to a computer screen, why. Quite comical. Breath........Relax.......Think before you type. Too many hard headed people out there. The forums dont need the drama that some guys bring. They must be abused by their wives and have to take it out on someone online.

How does that song go.. So much cooler on-line. Ya that one.

I didnt realize how many men wore panties until I started spending time on the hunting chat forums.
 
>Never would have defined myself as
>a hypocrite. LOL
>Wonder whos feelings I ruffled
>now. What is really
>interesting is that I have
>a reputation clear in Montana.
> LOL


I define a hypocrite as someone that tells somebody not to do something but does it themselves. If that isn't a hypocrite then I apologize for calling you that.

And no my feelings aren't ruffled. I just see past all the bs.
 
>I got to say that some
>of the guys are right
>on here. Half the mods
>on huntwa are biased. They
>delete posts just cause they
>don't agree. Then you have
>guys like bone who is
>a hypocrite. But that is
>huntwa for you. Cream of
>the crop for mods. lmao.
>


Hmm.. Care to share who is biased and give examples?
 
>Hmm.. Care to share who is
>biased and give examples?


What good will it do? I had a ton of posts deleted cause of biased mods. Only a few times could I ever get a response on why it was deleted. And the response was always "I don't know?"

Any mod that deletes a post that is not derogatory, slander, or off topic is a bad mod. If you differ in opinion on huntwa with the wrong mod, there goes your post. At least it would be nice if they had the balls to say why it was deleted. Oh thats right, there was no reason except that you differed in opinion.
 
DirtyTough - That's kinda what I thought.

I have seen this same "complaint" on two other boards and whenever I ask for more info the poster always says the same thing. Maybe it is you posting on those other sites?

Do you really think anyone that moderates any decent forum has the time to reply to every little question?
 
"I had a ton of posts deleted cause of"

Considering I have basically only deleted porn, and nasty slanderous posts, and the occasional bad joke, that doesn't say much for your posts if it was me. Granted we all have different personalities, but I tend not to delete or lock much unless its something a kid shouldn't be exposed to. I am a proponent for a family forum as I think kids are more important than having a medium for bar talk. Of course I am just a hypocrite and a liar, so why would you care or believe me. From your response I gather there wouldn't be any pleasing you anyway, so I'll stick to the masses. There is another cute little forum you can go check out if you'd like. I hear its small and is a very happy place. LOL
 
By the way Galpster, you made the cute remark about changing your IP, its interesting you didn't think of that before taking on a new ID on here for MM to slam someone. LOL
 
I like everyone on huntwa including Bone and all the moderators. I even like littlebuf even though we debate like a couple of school girls. I just can't stand Ray. Simple enough and the feeling is mutual. I can't tell you why he hates me but maybe because I voted dem the last presidency? :) I refuse to support Ray's site. Here is some more fun reading and there are more like it around:

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=761838

I think this picture says it all.

5386a-hole.jpg
 
I actually don't believe you ever deleted any of my posts. Like I said there was no reason for deletion.

But you are a hypocrite. Don't know about a liar.

BTKR. You make me lmao. Mods don't have time to answer a question on a forum that they moderate but they do have time to make an account on another forum and post on a thread about bad moderation of the forum they moderate. lol.
 
My "every little question" comment was a nice way of saying "mods don't need to waste time answering stupid questions from trouble makers".
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-08-10 AT 05:31AM (MST)[p]>
>I think this picture says it
>all.
>
>
5386a-hole.jpg


So you like taking pictures of a deer's a$$hole, what's that say? You're a little sick and twisted??
 
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>
>>Hmm.. Care to share who is
>>biased and give examples?
>
>
>What good will it do? I
>had a ton of posts
>deleted cause of biased mods.
>Only a few times could
>I ever get a response
>on why it was deleted.
>And the response was always
>"I don't know?"
>
>Any mod that deletes a post
>that is not derogatory, slander,
>or off topic is a
>bad mod. If you differ
>in opinion on huntwa with
>the wrong mod, there goes
>your post. At least it
>would be nice if they
>had the balls to say
>why it was deleted. Oh
>thats right, there was no
>reason except that you differed
>in opinion.


Perhaps you have just had Killbilly following you around and editing your posts... I personally think they should change his title from Moderator, to Editor, but that's me.

Dirty tough, one moderator (Killbilly) actually replied back as to why something was deleted by him (my post questioning why he would give someone a warning) BTKR, close your virgin eyes... Because it seems as though members get "warnings" just for contradicting or pointing out that another mod might not be right, and posts get deleted when the reason for the warning is questioned.

Here is the message I recieved:
"quote author=KillBilly link=action=profile;u=136 date=1265660752
I gave the second warning because he contradicted Iceman. This may be the only time I ever take time to justify anything to you. You love to stir the pot and most folks on here know that. You make yourself look bad. I deleted your post because it is uncalled for.
quote"

The first line says it all... Of course one must take in to consideration that this is quite possibly the most unfit person to have moderation powers on that site.

The message was in reference to the "Cougar hit, any way I can have it?" thread (page 2)
 
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-10
>AT 01:43?AM (MST)

>
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-10
>AT 01:41?AM (MST)

>
>>
>>>Hmm.. Care to share who is
>>>biased and give examples?
>>
>>
>>What good will it do? I
>>had a ton of posts
>>deleted cause of biased mods.
>>Only a few times could
>>I ever get a response
>>on why it was deleted.
>>And the response was always
>>"I don't know?"
>>
>>Any mod that deletes a post
>>that is not derogatory, slander,
>>or off topic is a
>>bad mod. If you differ
>>in opinion on huntwa with
>>the wrong mod, there goes
>>your post. At least it
>>would be nice if they
>>had the balls to say
>>why it was deleted. Oh
>>thats right, there was no
>>reason except that you differed
>>in opinion.
>
>
>Perhaps you have just had Killbilly
>following you around and editing
>your posts... I personally think
>they should change his title
>from Moderator, to Editor, but
>that's me.
>
>Dirty tough, one moderator (Killbilly) actually
>replied back as to why
>something was deleted by him
>(my post questioning why he
>would give someone a warning)
>BTKR, close your virgin eyes...
>Because it seems as though
>members get "warnings" just for
>contradicting or pointing out that
>another mod might not be
>right, and posts get deleted
>when the reason for the
>warning is questioned.
>
>Here is the message I recieved:
>
>"quote author=KillBilly link=action=profile;u=136 date=1265660752
>I gave the second warning because
>he contradicted Iceman. This may
>be the only time I
>ever take time to justify
>anything to you. You love
>to stir the pot and
>most folks on here know
>that. You make yourself look
>bad. I deleted your post
>because it is uncalled for.
>
>quote"
>
>The first line says it all...
> Of course one must
>take in to consideration that
>this is quite possibly the
>most unfit person to have
>moderation powers on that site.
>
>
>The message was in reference to
>the "Cougar hit, any way
>I can have it?" thread
>(page 2)


That is a great example and I agree..posts should not be deleted for condradiction as long as it wasn't advocating unlawful activity.

And he is right as well in that you purposefully stir the pot and are probably on thin ice with some.
 
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I wasn't really 'stirring the pot' on this one, more or less just questioning him for jumping on a forum member for no reason, and pointing out that he might want to re-read the previous posts before giving out "2nd warnings", and telling people to "back up". Take a peek at the "thank you miles" in shoot-em-deads next post that the "master editor" forgot to remove, that should give a clue as to what was going on in the deleted post. Killbilly was wrong and he knows it, that's why he went around editing, and deleting posts, just to save face and manipulate the thread for his own personal advantage. If that's not abuse of moderation powers than I don't know what is...
 
I don't tend to contradict or question what some of the moderators change or choose to delete as its up to their discretion and is a challenge sometimes to walk that line. I do however feel you have a valid point in regards to content being removed THAT SHOULD NOT BE. Without publicly attacking someone, I wish they'd get the point, but they seem to be stubborn and set in their ways, and when previously called upon about it, stomped their feet like a reprimanded child on the schoolbus.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-28-10 AT 04:59PM (MST)[p]Go to Hunt fish Wa dot com (With no spaces) it is a better site and you have the freedom of speech.
 
Whoa, this was my first visit to the Washington forum, what a bummer. Was hoping to see some hunting stories.

Hunt Hard. Shoot Straight. Kill Clean. Apologize to No One.
 

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