Big 200 Washington Buck

Great buck for sure, story sounds a bit fishy, but that's a awesome buck. . .
 
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nice!

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I've never seen a real antler with color like that. Look at the big pictures posted on that site and you'll see what I mean. They look like reproduction antlers.
 
I can't imagine why you wouldn't have caped a deer like that, I sure would have.
 
What a buck!!! With horns like that I would have carried out the whole head and neck if I didn't know how to cape him out.
 
This is in no way a reproduction on the antlers as Im the one that posted this originally on Primos website. I had these antlers in my hands and was the one to take the pictures. The deer was caped by the hunter who is planning on mounting it himself. He knows its big but has made no attempt at getting it officially scored etc. He's feels very lucky to have been given such a oppurtinity to get a buck like this but has no intention on seeking any kind of fame from it. Just a great honest true hunter.

More to the story, deer was seen in September during a elk hunt. He went back in a late archery season in November and was 5 miles from his truck when he shot it by himself. Boned it out and had to pack it out. He watched it coming from several hundred yards away and kept his composure the whole time to make the shot. This deer was in a heavily treed valley forest. No sagebrush buck here.

If this had been me I'd be all over the magazines with this buck and trying to retire from it. I dont think the hunter has any ideas like that.. He's very proud of this one though let me tell ya. Whats even greater is that this wasnt just dumb luck, he specifically set out to get this deer that day. Unreal that it came together like it did, but the story I hope someone gets to read about it in a magazine written by the hunter someday...

I got about 20 pics. .Want some more...
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Top Pin
aka Chris Stephens
Lewiston, ID.
 
I want more, that thing is a brute. Any hints on the county it came from? A true representation of what this state can put out, more pictures please, that is my dream buck, deep forks, good mass, a few cheaters for character, WOW!!!!!!
 
I thought the same. Way yellow to be all-naturale. If legit,way cool. If repos, way cool. Awesome buck. Thanks for sharing.

'It's all about the gut pile'
 
i agree with ridgerunner...just a hint of where it came from...thats an awesome buck.
 
Top Pin,

Thanks for stepping in and trying to set the record straight. Every time there is a great buck posted here there are guys who want to say it is fake, poached, highfence. I don't understand why, but I didn't want you to take offence since you are new here.

Great buck and congrats to the guy who took it.

Mark
 
We've all had fakes, repros, photoshopped, etc pulled on us in these posts, so I am always a little skeptical. I am always jealous when someone connects on a true monster, because no matter how hard I try, I always seem to go home empty. Just once, I would love to be able to post some monster trophy photos of mine on this site so everyone could have a chance to call me on the carpet. I don't mind a little discussion as long as the truth is varifiable. Thanks for posting, and thanks for clarifying. Congrats to the "true sportsman" that harvested this ENORMOUS animal.
 
Love to see the mount when it's done. Great buck. From your description there are only a couple places it could be from and I would say two places in particular, being elk and muley country and holding a buck like that. Congrats to the hunter.

D
 
What's up with the camera date??

Nice buck, regardless of what it is. True artist, whether it be God or man....
 
I will say that when there is a picture that makes it look like a guy just returned from the field with perfect colored and a dried skull plate that's been repaired, it looks very fishy. If they are real they don't look like a fresh kill. Most hunters even solo ones carry a camera in the woods. Any field shots? I'm not saying he didn't kill it or it's not a real set of antlers.
I'm just saying the pictures tell a differnt story. I hope that is true, but there have been so many fakes it makes me slow down and wait for more information before I get excited.

M/M CSI Team Member, Mike
 
Ok, I change my mind. I call BS on this being an archery kill from last year. It's Granpa's buck from '57. Still a big buck.

'It's all about the gut pile'
 
The camera date? C'mon pred......It's probably because that's when the poster saw the rack for the first time and took the pictures. Not uncommon to keep the antlers until the taxi is ready for em'.....especially with a set like that. No way I'd leave em' at the taxidermist for a year.

Anyway.....I too would like to see more pics. And maybe hear a little more about it. Awesome buck. Gotta admire the fact he doesn't want it in all the magazines.
 
> Love to see the mount
>when it's done. Great buck.
>From your description there are
>only a couple places it
>could be from and I
>would say two places in
>particular, being elk and muley
>country and holding a buck
>like that. Congrats to the
>hunter.
>
> D

now you're thinkin'...
 
>Top Pin,
>
>Thanks for stepping in and trying
>to set the record straight.
> Every time there is
>a great buck posted here
>there are guys who want
>to say it is fake,
>poached, highfence. I don't
>understand why, but I didn't
>want you to take offence
>since you are new here.
>
>
>Great buck and congrats to the
>guy who took it.
>
>Mark


I know there will be doubters. Anything that big will bring every question in the world about it. I was first emailed some really bad pics of this by my friend back in November. It looked big but the quality was pretty bad so I didnt realize what I was looking at. I've known the hunter for 5 years now as I shoot several 3-D tournaments a year with him. The first one always being in March wich happened to be just last weekend. When he pulled these horns out of his truck my jaw hit the ground let me tell ya!!! I've hunted some big mule deer when I lived in WA. and saw 30"+ bucks every season for 4 years, my father even has a non-typical 32" outide spread from the area we hunted. I've seen alot of bucks but for mass nothing compared to this deer.
I've read the doubters. Heres what I know, he plans on mounting it himself, the cape has been shipped off to be tanned however long that takes??? He was scared of how thin the skull cap was and was concerned about it breaking while he has been showing it to his friends etc. So he added epoxy and fiberglass wrap to the center part of the skull cap to strengthen it. I wish I'd taken a closer picture of that for you doubters but you can still see the skull/bone just with about a 2" wide epoxy strip with some fiberglass down the middle. If you had these in your hands you wouldnt doubt one bit about there authenticity and no one at all last weekend that saw them even questioned it.
Sorry I'm not going to say anything about the story and location on it as all of us in that group were pushing him to publish a story on it and try to get it entered in the books. I'd love to see this thing on a cover of a magazine let me tell ya, and the story would make a great article. Not my deer though so thats for him to decide.
To give you a idea about this hunters attitude on it, someone that day asked him why he hadnt gone and got it scored. He reply "ahh heck it costs $65.00 to have it scored unless you take it to show or something. Too much money to me just to get it scored" He had scored it himself and came up with 215" gross and 204" and change typical. He's scored several other animals in his lifetime so I really dont think he is that far off on it so it could go a 1" or 2 either way I guess. But comparing it to other bucks on here, and having it in my hands theres no doubt that thing is a 200"+ buck..
I've not seen a field photo yet, if there are. He seriously did not believe he was going to see that deer again, so I cant imagine how prepared he was. It sounded like a spur of moment hunt that day from what he told. I will ask though trust me. I know that he has stated that the deer appeared young as the teeth were not worn down and that he's been really good eating.

Doubt all you want but this isnt coming from someone who heard that his cousins friend uncle's third sister shot this deer in 3 other states and just happened to find a picture. I know this hunter personally for several years, held the horns in my hands in person and I'm willing to put my name on the bottom of this post.. DOUBT all you want..

Top Pin
Chris Stephens
Lewiston, ID.
 
Heres a couple more pics for some people. I'm just about out of them after this though..

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Jack - I was thinking most likely the Blue Mtns. Possibly Umtanum, but I would lean to the Blues. Not too many places five miles off road any more that hold deer and elk, also the genetics stand out.
 
Yah, that's possible....if the bow season is still open in that state....and everyone is wearing camo in a campground. And there's a bow in the truck......Just asking!
 
> Jack - I was thinking
>most likely the Blue Mtns.
>Possibly Umtanum, but I would
>lean to the Blues. Not
>too many places five miles
>off road any more that
>hold deer and elk, also
>the genetics stand out.

PM sent...
 
Those sure look like they have been painted or stained to me. Why are there no pics before the date on these pics, field photos as well?................rf
 
I have no idea if they are real or not but a nice rack no matter what. I lean towards the fake side on this set. There are several things in the pictures and post that make me question if they are real. Never seen a real set of horns with that color, but a lot of repro with almost exact coloration. Killed in Washington, but one of the trailers has a Idaho plate. It is possible but an Idaho resident hunting in Washington is probably very rare. Killed in November but picture was taken in the spring based on the pictures alone. Some change the dates intentionally on their hunting pics, but this photo was not taken in the fall. So why would all the hunting gear be in the PU still in the spring unless the picture was taken in November. Don't forget the other guys with their camo and bino straps on. If the picture was taken in November he still had time to fiberglass it let it cure, bring it back to the campground, and still did not look even remotely fresh. The guy won't spend 65.00 to have a record class set of horns measured but spent 300.00 having camo put on his PU. I don't know anyone who actually pays to get their horns scored unless they go to a show. Those are just the obvious things that make me question. If they are real then great but too many questions on this one.
 
Heard it was in S.E. Washington(Blue Mountains?)Sounds like it is very close to Idaho? Looks to be well over 200 to me and REAL!!! Good Luck
 
>I have no idea if they
>are real or not but
>a nice rack no matter
>what. I lean towards
>the fake side on this
>set. There are several
>things in the pictures and
>post that make me question
>if they are real.
>Never seen a real set
>of horns with that color,
>but a lot of repro
>with almost exact coloration.
>Killed in Washington, but one
>of the trailers has a
>Idaho plate. It is
>possible but an Idaho resident
>hunting in Washington is probably
>very rare. Killed in
>November but picture was taken
>in the spring based on
>the pictures alone. Some
>change the dates intentionally on
>their hunting pics, but this
>photo was not taken in
>the fall. So why
>would all the hunting gear
>be in the PU still
>in the spring unless the
>picture was taken in November.
> Don't forget the other
>guys with their camo and
>bino straps on. If
>the picture was taken in
>November he still had time
>to fiberglass it let it
>cure, bring it back to
>the campground, and still did
>not look even remotely fresh.
> The guy won't spend
>65.00 to have a record
>class set of horns measured
>but spent 300.00 having camo
>put on his PU.
>I don't know anyone who
>actually pays to get their
>horns scored unless they go
>to a show. Those
>are just the obvious things
>that make me question. If
>they are real then great
>but too many questions on
>this one.


http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-b...=show_thread&om=14133&forum=DCForumID6&omm=23
 
I guess I need to read my emails better.. Here are the original photos sent to me on 12/05/06. I'd only seen the one with the bow and antlers so I never realized how big they were. Tonight I went back to get his email address and saw there were more pictures inclded. duh.
Heres what I have, you guys can disect these and prove them false too if you want..

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Guys you need to back off, here a newcomer comes on and posts a few pics of a great buck and immediately is called a fake. I don't think its a repo but if it is a repo who cares, its a great looking rack. I hope that this post doesn't discourage him from posting again, thanks for the pictures I've enjoyed them and look forward to hopefully one day hearing or reading the story.
 
U guys need to lay off this guy. He said the buck was shot in heavy timber and u guys r complaining about the sage in the picture, tell me this then how many places in WA have timbered ridges with sagebrush draws. Now as far as the photos that he had posted and everyone questioning the date on them and the idaho plates on the truck if u read his posts he said that those were pics of him holding the antlers at a 3d shoot this past weekend. get over it somebody killed a big buck and u didnt.
 
A lot of people are talking about the color of the antlers. What color should they be? I have seen some that were almost white and some that almost looked red and some that were all colors in between. We don't know were this buck was shot or were he has been living. The pictures show some sage brush looking ares but that could just be were he took the pictures.

now days if you shoot a big buck you better have a biologist with you for DNA samples so people believe the buck is real.
 
Top-pin is from lewiston, idaho which is a couple hundred feet from the washington border. isn't it possible that the guy has a buddy from washington who killed that deer in washington? the license plate idea is off the wall a little bit...back off and give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
if you're in pomeroy, wa. half the license plates you see are idaho plates.
 
"has no intention on seeking any kind of fame from it. Just a great honest true hunter."

Yet 4 months later consciously puts it in his truck, packs it all the way to some out of town 3D shoot, and shows it off to everyone around. I'm of the same mindset as alot of others on this one. A great rack without a doubt, just something not quite right here.....................rf

One more thing,looks like a full 4 arrow quiver hes posing it with, and the arrows look to be clean and un-damaged. For those of us that archery hunt, unlikely.
 
huntnphool......"a full 4 arrow quiver?" "and the arrows look clean and undamaged." C'mon dude, you can't be serious? The one that killed the deer is obviously the one missing. Of course the others are gonna be clean! How man people carry 4 arrow quivers, mine for one, and just about every other archery hunter I know carries a 5. Just a thought!

In how many languages does everyone have to say the pictures are from last weekend, hence the date, and Top_Pin is from Idaho, hence the liscense plate. Duh! It was an 3D shoot, maybe he's got a lot of buddies at those things that have not seen his deer. Maybe that's why he brought the rack!

You doubters need to put the magnifing glass down and enjoy a picture of a nice buck. Especially now days when things are slow around here.
 
pred.....I'm sure your last post was said with tongue in cheek. I know you know better than that.
 
Hey MS, yea I said a 4 arrow quiver. Take a look at it big guy, its a "4 arrow quiver" and mine only holds 3. You think all quivers are the same? Maybe he cleaned it off before the pic, lol...............rf
 
"Your right, I'm wrong.....big guy. Must be a fake for sure now. "

I never said it was a fake......dude, just said something doesnt seem quite right. Aint it great we have forums like this to post our opinions, and can agree to disagree...........rf
 
Man, some of you folks are waaaaay too analytical! I hunt alone and usually don't take pictures of my critters right away, sometimes days or weeks later. It just isn't that important to some folks. If I do take hide on pics it is usually at camp or at home. That guy could have taken those pics in his back yard, with camo on and bow in the shot. I've done that myself. Usually I already have the hide off, the head boiled, cleaned and bleached before I take pics. As far as the antler color, I have shot 8 or 9 deer over the years that were all taken within 200 yards of each other; all of them had different color antlers. One year they were brown another they were reddish, grey or almost black. I think that he just got all of the mud, blood and bark off of them and cleaned them up to look nice. A small clear coat will darken them up and look nice. I had a bunch of local guys calling b.s. on my 350" WA Roosie because I didn't have any in field pics. Those are the same guys that have a wall full of road hunted spikes and nothing else. I think a lot of it has to do with jealousy. It is an awesome buck and I will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see some real evidence that it is a fake or anything else. Wouldn?t you expect the same if it were you?
Eric

Ultra liberal, wolf loving, illiterate, gay, hippie midgets on crack piss me off!!!!

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awesome buck. I hope its all true, all those other states better look out:) there are some big ole bucks put on the ground the last couple of years!! Would love to hear the story of the hunt, and maybe a little info on where this all took place.
 
If this buck was killed where I think it was then the country is exactly that; He packed five miles back in to the heavier timber, but the buck up being by himself and took that shots down lower in the sage. Totally reasonable. Many of us would not think to make sure we get an at the kill picture of even a nice buck. Most bucks I've shot I never took a picture until I was home, including my best buck. I say give the guy a break and thanks for posting the pics...
 
Man that a nice buck, I know If I killed it I WOULD NEVER post a picture on here, so all those Great hunters could tell me how I did it. Almost every big bull or buck that gets posted here get the same treatment.
 
>Man that a nice buck, I
>know If I killed it
>I WOULD NEVER post a
>picture on here, so all
>those Great hunters could tell
>me how I did it.
>Almost every big bull or
>buck that gets posted here
>get the same treatment.


Friggin Ditto!!!!!!!!
 
That is indeed a giant. NOW THAT is a 200 inch Washington buck. I don't think his score job is that far off, it looks pretty reasonable to me. That is an incredible deer. There are only a few spots in this state with deer like that and elk as well. CONGRATULATIONS to the hunter.
 
Very nice deer. Thanks a bunch for sharing with us. Too bad a bunch of idiots have to do what they do best. Stat quo for them. Keep it up morons and nobody will post a picture of any trophy. I don't care how or where or when that deer was killed. It is a dandy any way you look at it. Apparently small man syndrome is still thriving in the hunting community. Too bad.

Kris
 
I made the fifth reply post on this buck. I mentioned my observation that the color didn't look quite right, but what I should have said was that the color and texture of the antlers was different from the other Mule Deer antlers I've seen. I've experimented a little bit on reconditioning and recoloring antlers, and I was chuckling to myself that my recolored antlers usually end up looking more natural than this Washington Buck. I, for one, am very jealous and envious of this hunter. He sounds like a very humble man that has accomplished one of my own personal dreams. If his story is true (and I don't have any reason to doubt it), CONGRATS on one super fine trophy and a once in a lifetime accomplishment.

I will be more careful choosing my words in the future. I wouldn't want to end up like old Zumbo.
 

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