well.....1.8 million more...

quote: The move permanently protects "nearly 1.8 million acres of America's public lands," the White House says in a news release.

protects from who or what...?

How is this going to effect hunting in that country?

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

Sageadvice: et al. I saw on TV this Presidential Dedication. It struck me as an "Off-Limits Fence" but today when I saw this Posting, I looked into it and found the below information's. I don't have Face Book, Twitter, etc... but as I scrolled down I saw a lady jogging in ATV Tire ruts. I don't know where such is from (not Mojave) but her comments were interesting. I hope the copy (of her) shows up in this Post reply (Her Picture and words did not stay attached once in this Post. Just scroll down the linked page to see her running and her words are visible there). Darn, she made me feel maybe it's not so bad. As I read more and searched, I placed the core data below. Had I not gone to such sites and read everything, I would still be of the thought: "Off-Limits Fence".
If anyone has a specific question, on the link is an envelope to write directly to The White House. I would but I am low on Aluminum Foil to make a hat prior to typing them

It may be that the Hunting effect is unknown to me. The aspect of protection from who or what may relate to City dwellers who deface Indian drawings petroglyphs or drive vehicles in places, shoot them up and leave them...?...I'm just guessing but I have seen such areas trashed. I had family relatives who operated the Mojave Desert's small park/store and they had stories of folks using distant Desert Canyons as dumping grounds. Shocked me because it takes a lot of effort and prior planning to even travel into such places. If you're old enough you may remember the 20 Mule Team Borax commercials. I still don't know how such men worked in such a place. At lease now the Drug Cartel will need to Tunnel under the entire stretch of lands.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/201...ma-designates-3-national-monuments-california





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Home to the region?s tallest alpine mountain that rises from the floor of the Sonoran Desert, the monument also will protect sacred, archaeological and cultural sites, including an estimated 1,700 Native American petroglyphs. Featuring 30 miles of the world famous Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail, the area is a favorite for camping, hiking, hunting, horseback riding, photography, wildlife viewing, and even skiing.


I went here to locate a MAP so the different areas can be seen by my own eye.
https://wilderness.org/president-obama-designates-three-new-national-monuments-california-desert

The above website may not be for everyone but it did offer the data I sought.

With the stroke of a pen, the president of the United States can protect natural, historical and cultural wonders by designating them as national monuments. The president can do this by using the Antiquities Act, a law enacted by President Theodore Roosevelt.

Perhaps one of the greatest powers bestowed up the president of the United States is the ability to protect America?s treasures by using the Antiquities Act. Sixteen presidents ? from Theodore Roosevelt to Barack Obama ? have used the Antiquities Act to protect places big and small across the United States.

National monument designation is a form of protection most like a National Conservation Area (NCA). National monuments are flexible designations that allow for a true conservation balance between development and the need to protect our most treasured places for our children and grandchildren.


https://wilderness.org/article/monument-designation-faqs

Monument Designation FAQs
What is a national monument and why should you care about them? Learn the answers with our monument designation FAQs.
Q: What is a national monument?

A: A national monument is a land or historic area that has been given permanent protection by Congress or by the president through the use of the Antiquities Act. National monuments include wild places and historic places like Canyon of the Ancients National Monument in Colorado and the Statue of Liberty in New York.

Q: Who manages the national monuments?

A: National monuments can be managed by one of four agencies:

The National Park Service
The U.S. Forest Service
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
The Bureau of Land Management

Q: What can I do in a national monument?

A: You can do a lot of fun things in national monuments, like

Camping and backpacking
Hunting and fishing
Horseback riding
Riding motorized vehicles on designated roads
Hiking and biking

Thanks Jager, I see you posted from link towards the bottom,

"Q: What can I do in a national monument?
A: You can do a lot of fun things in national monuments, like:
Camping and backpacking
Hunting and fishing
Horseback riding
Riding motorized vehicles on designated roads
Hiking and biking"


From the little digging that i did, SOME NM's can be hunted on but not all. My guess is that hunting will be allowed in at least some of these new National Monuments. Maybe the severity of road use restrictions and access availability might be more of a issue but those here in the know, feel free to shed some light on the subject.

Joey


"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"

.....mojave trails is basically everything east of Barstow that wasn't already national preserve or wilderness.....it was regular BLM...already public and already rid of cattle. It was multiple use....cross country travel was already illegal. Open sandy washes were legal to drive....as long as vegitation wasn't being disturbed. Camp anywhere you want....few rules other than those....it was beautiful and fun country.

Monument status is basically a "wilderness" designation when the peoples representatives were not willing to create more wilderness and wilderness rules.

Total control of every square inch of public land is the left's goal.

They are close to getting it in the california desert.....

Look at the map....

Your spot on Homer, this is just another nail in the coffin to multiple use public land. Piece by piece " our" government is closing down public land, whether it be wilderness, road-less, national monument, or national park. Just to the north in Inyo and Mono counties the USFS is proposing approximately 70,000 acres of new wilderness on the Inyo National Forest,the total acreage of the forest is about 1.8 million acres with over 800,000 acres of wilderness right now. Since 1994 over 400,000 acres has been added, not including all the acreage lost to the Death Valley Park expansion. The park expansion targeted all the water on the north west boundries, they cherry stemmed the waterhole just to exclude hunting. Our government has a hidden agenda that they never let the public in on. To say I'm distrustful our government is a sure bet.

Don't get me started

Brownie

Well up in sisq county they have been fighting it, just across the boarder in Oregon the BLM have taken a chunk. Of land called it the soda mountain monument n it is only foot travel it has helped the maturity quality in the bucks but if ur knees are going south it all off limits for me, it would be for the young n the nature bird watching types as well...

"It's all about knowing what your firearms practical limitations are and combining that with your own personal limitations!"