Crime & YOU make the Law

Jagerdad

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It is said that "Perception = Reality". It is also said in the news rooms to find new, news.... or make it. News Sell's $$$$.

I don't write this to be only about deportation or Mexico. I have seen families go Bankrupt because someone used their Drivers License, Social Security Number as Fake ID. I held such Fake's and they do look Real. I Investigated and located a Man down South who sold fake USA Pedigrees to Illegal's. He was busted. But when I read about the below and saw how the media focused on a Human element, everyone reading easily loses thoughts of the true damage folks like the below lady does to victims. THAT'S SAD... but heck, news sells $$$

So, who should pay restitution to victims of Identity Theft at a FELONY level, is in the Ladies case...? Or, do we write it off and let Victims suffer. ICE for the most part, just moves bodies. They leave criminal cases to the alphabet Police and Local Jurisdictions, usually with no leads.

So, If you were actually a LAW MAKER, how would you address this ongoing matter.

I am not referring to computer crimes by other Nations & Hackers, just simple forgeries like below.

http://ktla.com/2017/02/10/case-of-...-is-in-the-spotlight-amid-immigration-debate/

An undocumented mother of two US-born children who was deported to her native Mexico after a routine meeting with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials has become the focus of a national debate over the Trump administration?s crackdown on illegal immigration.

In a matter of days, Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos has gone from being one of about 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US to a poster child for critics of Trump?s immigration hard line and his promise to increase deportations.

Garcia de Rayos, 35, emerged from her seemingly ordinary life after a yearly check-in with immigration officials Wednesday in Phoenix.

It was her eighth visit since her 2008 arrest and conviction for using a fake Social Security number. After each meeting, she was released and went back to her family.

This time, Garcia de Rayos was detained and deported to Mexico within 24 hours in what her lawyer claims is a direct result of Trump?s crackdown. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials insist there was nothing special about her situation: she committed a crime, was placed under a deportation order and her time had come.

Now the case has become a flashpoint in a heated national dispute over the Trump administration?s executive order, which says any undocumented immigrant convicted or charged with a crime that hasn't been adjudicated could be deported.

?She wanted to confront this?

For her part, Garcia de Rayos appears keenly aware of her role in this unfolding drama. Far from hiding from the cameras, she held a news conference Thursday night in Nogales, Mexico, and said she wants others to see what's happened to her.

?I did this so that more families could see what's in store, what could happen, and so that they could know what they could risk,? she said, adding that Trump?s effort hurts the children of deported parents.

?I am not what he says. I simply am a mother who fights for her children, who fights to give them the best.?

Garcia de Rayos? children crossed the border Thursday night to be with mother.

?We don't deserve to go through this,? her daughter, Stephanie, told reporters. ?No family deserves to go through this. It's heartbreaking. No one should feel this much pain, no one should go through this much suffering,?

Activists and her lawyer said they warned Garcia de Rayos that she could be deported under Trump?s new policy. They offered sanctuary at a church, but she decided to check in with ICE anyway, said Lucy Sandoval, an activist who has been working with the family.

?She wanted to confront this,? Sandoval said. ?They were hopeful that there would be some consciousness and some heart.?

Debate turns on mom?s case

Garcia de Rayos might be the first person deported from Arizona under Trump?s executive order, her attorney told CNN affiliate KNXV-TV. Her supporters said the deportation signals a marked changed from the policies of the Obama administration.

?I think this is a direct result of the new executive orders that are being put into actions by President Trump calling them ?enhancing public safety,? which really appears only to be attacking immigrant communities and people of color,? her attorney, Ray Maldonado, said.

Added Carlos Garcia, director of immigration rights group Puente Arizona: ?ICE had done what President Trump wanted ? which is deport and separate our families.?

But US immigration officials said this case followed the regular legal process and it was time for Garcia de Rayos to go back to her home country.

?(Her) immigration case underwent review at multiple levels of the immigration court system, including the Board of Immigration Appeals, and the judges held she did not have a legal basis to remain in the US,? ICE said in a statement.

Immigration advocates say this deportation will cause other unauthorized immigrants to go into hiding. Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton, a Democrat, called it a travesty.

?Rather than tracking down violent criminals and drug dealers, ICE is spending its energy deporting a woman with two American children who has lived here for more than two decades and poses a threat to nobody,? he said.

But supporters of the move see the deportation as a positive example of Trump?s effort to preserve American jobs and ensure public safety.

?President Trump campaigned on the issue of enforcing the nation?s laws, and that's exactly what is happening here,? Dave Ray, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said in a statement.

?Someone who has been in the country illegally for two decades, received final deportation orders from the immigration courts in 2013 and is a convicted felon shouldn't be the least bit shocked that she's being deported.?

A crackdown on illegal immigration

The immigration executive orders signed by Trump could amount to a vast expansion of authority for individual immigration officers and a dramatic increase in efforts to detain and deport undocumented immigrants.

The order lays out a series of categories of undocumented immigrants that immigration law enforcement officials should prioritize for removing from the country, a reaction to what was criticized by the right as lax enforcement of immigration law by President Barack Obama.

The Obama administration had prioritized expulsion of undocumented immigrants who threatened public safety or national security, had ties to criminal gang activity, committed serious felony offenses or were habitual misdemeanor criminal offenders.

Trump?s order goes far beyond that, using a sweeping definition of ?criminal? and giving a single immigration officer the ability to make judgments on threats to public safety, regardless of whether the person has been convicted of a crime.
 
It is about time. If someone is here illegally doesn't,t that mean they should not be here ? And then they commit felony offenses and wonder why they are getting deported? Why would a citizen of this country think it is OK for someone to be here illegally and then commit felony offenses ? It is about time victims of crimes in this country get rights and the criminals start getting what they deserve.
 
My Lord... after all this time, notags2 is the ONLY ONE here within Politics that replies to my Post.

In this forum, it is very obvious who fights with whom. My post was and IS NOT easy.

As so many argue and say such bad things to another member, the regulars have been silent, to accurately, reply.

I am not actually criticizing anyone. I am pointing out something very challenging and, difficult to reply to.

I simply wished to offer "Power" of being "Any Law Maker" and with open eyes, had hoped to learn from the very Vocal folks whom thrive on this forum

Great Job notags2. Are all seats empty with an ability to hone media and stay true to writing a rule of LAW to address this issue with your open eyes....?

Jagerdad :)
 
The American public is basically stupid. The lawyer and an advocate for this woman warned her yet she decided to go to ICE and test the waters? They knew what was up and they did this to get a Mom deported thinking she might be able to stay. Didn't work out for her. It is an engineered publicity stunt.
 
JAG I have never been and I never will be politically correct ! I could care less about that garbage. I think that is a HUGE part of the problem in this country now days !! I don't get the way so many people think. It is illegal to speed in a car. It is illegal to sell narcotics. If you are here living illegally it OK. And then if you are here illegally and committing crime people think there should be no deportation. Again victims of crime in our country do not get treated fairly. Like you said where does a victim get restitution from ? The criminal usually aint got a thing worth anything. So what about the victims of crime ? Will they ever get real justice ?
 
Dear Tog, I have no clue why you write about Trump. He has zero to do with my Post "QUESTION".

Notags2 You are smart as you wrote: "Again victims of crime in our country do not get treated fairly. Like you said where does a victim get restitution from ? The criminal usually aint got a thing worth anything. So what about the victims of crime ? Will they ever get real justice ?"

If one of you Drills down, removing the Rubble and reaches the Core question (which is a Problem NOT related totally to deportations) and YOU are a Law Maker, what Law (Processes, Procedures, etc..) do you Construct...? (Let's keep it simple to such Forgeries).

Talking "Around" the Core never solves or produces a Positive remedy.

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I think it is fairly easy. If you are here illegally then you get sent home when you get caught. Sorry if you had children here because we will take care of our own citizens but you can't jump the line just because.

Then if they are not hardened criminals and want to return, they have to go through the process. I would say allow them some eventual path to being here legally. No blanket amnesty, no guarantee of future citizenship but some form of legal documents to allow them to eventually return perhaps also require proof that they will be gainfully employed and will not seek government hand outs for themselves. If they have committed crimes then it is a permanent ban on return regardless of the reason.

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I agree with what NEMO said 100 %. As far as TOG goes the little man would be the first one to cry like a little baby if he was the victim of a crime and he was seriously hurt or lost alot of money. Typical little man if it aint me I dont give a ratts arse. You are a piece of work TOG !
 
"So, who should pay restitution to victims of Identity Theft at a FELONY level, is in the Ladies case...? Or, do we write it off and let Victims suffer."

I wonder how often it happens where bankruptcy is the result?

The Mexican government would be the logical choice but how would the US collect? Probably not.

Collect fines from employers that hire illegals and distribute some of the money to the victims.
 
Eel I wish I had the answer. It sickens me to see people victimized over and over again because of the crimes of scum bags.
 
NeMont, in this Post; Your My Hero. Eel, you are right there with him.

You guy's are now; Dead Nut's ON.... Target.

If more join in and brain storm this, it is a Post that gives back to contributors and readers. It is the way a Political Post "Should" operate. Smart folks working on a solution. A Law may be a new Policy and NeMont again, you're accurate wherein you declare, if the illegal did a Criminal Act, they never re-enter. THAT is a direct step in doing something.

Let's agree this is not easy and there is no bad idea. This drilling helps.

Possibly in a State or Federal Law if average Citizen does have his/her ID stolen, there should be an instant time out and they are saved from losing everything.

Who pays = Possibly their Country of origin. Term it an excise Tax.
 
Jagerdad hers is another tough question and it fits right in with your post. Once a criminal is deported what should we do about aggravated reentries and exactly how should our country handle them ? I would love to see us take agg reentries back and make the other country pay for ALL expenses including law enforcement salaries used on these folks. But how do we collect? Some great food for thought going on with this post. Let's hear some more opinions.
 
DW, The Link You Entered above turned my Stomach. I sure need to think about being politically correct or, risk bashing another Law Enforcement Agency.

So, I shall say that Fed's, like ICE, has been frustrating local Police & Sheriff's Offices since the 1980's. It is never, repeat...NEVER the Individual hard working staff but the OVERSIGHT and Policies which = Making Cities and Counties house "Their" Prisoner and, for FREE.... Plus...Not communicating anything to said agency...so, such "Learned" Behavior, sadly has such agencies forced, not to do what they want, wish or, may seem Right, but rather, Flush the ICE person out the door. It all is about $$$$$$.

This "Gap" happens every hour somewhere in Hometown USA, likely Hourly.

This leads me to: Our Media's, of all foundations. Let me start by using Trump.

Trump has planted his foot down about Fake News. I am "Forced" to agree. My reason's are because I have had media interview me at crime scenes and the next day, that same paper wrote a totally different story than what happened. Your job mentors quickly advise you that if you EVER talk to ANY Media, they will use YOUR Name and Burn you to the ground.

A Court Room Attorney will do the same thing. The learning curve is Sharp. Basically either shut up or, be BBQ'ed in the rooms of Public Opinions.

However, without writing a book, it is proper to say; without an aggressive media, the Public loses. That is HARD to justify in brevity but, even lies serve a good. Gosh, I can't believe I said that.

Yet, just as in any time of Voting, obtaining true, unbiased information on a City, County, National subject is Impossible. There is only Candidates statements and Ballot explanations, all, being a spaghetti mixture in Your Dish.

Here I shall say something real yet, very COLD, Painfully COLD. It is: "You may not get Justice but, You will always get.... The LAW".

Jagerdad :)
 
WTF is your problem nonuts? I said deport their azz. when have I ever said otherwise? pull your head out.

As far as the crime goes BFD again it's more of the Trump fear mongering to sissys. we've always deported criminals. one of my best workers was pulled over for no seatbelt and deported for a drug charge from 20 years ago when he was 18. ICE had a warrant out for him and they wasted no time arresting him and deporting him. if he returns he will spend a minimum of 2 years in a federal pen.

This was a retroactive law passed by Clinton. he had done his probation and jail time and didn't even know he was wanted. so phuk your whiney little fear party this is much about nothing.

Mexico send a check for that wall yet?










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Deport them again. you got a better idea? you want to fund another Gitmo for wetbacks? better be a big one. talk is cheap prisons aren't.















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Thats a brilliant response. But most of your responses are useless. You think deporting someone time after time is cheap ? Keep smoking your peyote.
 
Illegal aliens should be facial tattooed and then deported. Make them easier to spot when they return.
 
Not deporting them again is a brilliant solution. so are you going to kill them or lock them up for life? those are your options.


















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The "Root Cause" of this Post is based directly by the titles name; Crime (Civil or Criminal) and YOU "Make The Law".

To be a Law Maker in This Case, it is no help to see only current Laws or to limit thoughts on just two options as Tog mentioned. The entire foundation is to find and expand upon OPTIONS.

Eel, we can't TT faces however, in current technologies we already have hidden cameras on roads that instantly reads heavy traffic at high speeds and not only takes pictures of License Plates but also instantly runs them for, lets say: STOLEN. Law Enforcement agencies Patrol vehicles in that area are instantly told of the vehicle, its direction of travel, etc... Patrol units can intercept the vehicle.

Having new technologies including Facial Recognition will identify wanted individuals, possibly also Illegals whom have and have not already committed a "New" Crime, even as they use a Laundromat, Gas Station, Grocery Store, Hotel Maids, being in any public place, etc.... if such Law is designed and funded to do so. This Big Brother over watch is already old news to Marketing Firms who have been doing such to all of us, for many years. Hence a major reason why I taught my family to turn off their cell phones when shopping and especially, in a Mall. I can explain if someone asks.

But back to YOU making a Law. It is hard to get financial restitution from an indigent. However, if their goal is to earn $$$ on US soils, such technology can flag them and seize such funds. Those using Cash opens restitution to employers paying with cash. The magnetism to "earn or pay" here in the USA can be torn apart if done properly. Bad Guy's & Gal's always feel there is no way they can be caught. That alone is why good Police work has all Jails packed.

Making technology into cactus thorns = the reasons for being here are vanished. NeMont had the best idea and with more of you reading this then thinking up new options, mechanisms, including public schools, Hospitals, welfare the list seems endless.

The main point is to hold someone (All accessories) accountable who are connected with a Forgery and all of the other nuances in bad illegal acts. Just using Who, What, Where, When & Why gives Law makers avenues of thought.

There are many folks waiting in line to enter America the correct lawful way and cutting in line is a Crime. I personally can not think of someone from Mexico who I did not like. They are, to me, a great group of people and they have: Respect (even if they illegally entered USA). Frankly I wish none of the above thoughts and problems existed yet they sure do and this post makes "Thinkers" into "Doers".

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"But back to YOU making a Law. It is hard to get financial restitution from an indigent. However, if their goal is to earn $$$ on US soils, such technology can flag them and seize such funds. Those using Cash opens restitution to employers paying with cash. The magnetism to "earn or pay" here in the USA can be torn apart if done properly. Bad Guy's & Gal's always feel there is no way they can be caught. That alone is why good Police work has all Jails packed."

That might work, but first you have to be able to identify them to target them. And the only ones that targets, is actually the best of the bunch; the ones who are honestly here to work hard, cause no trouble, and truly want a better life for their families. Even if they send a lot of money back home to Mexico.

Working in sawmills for as long as I did, I worked with plenty of illegals. Most (not all, as some of them had a chip on their shoulder and though they had a RIGHT to invade California) really just want a job. Good people on the job. Illegal for sure, but my boss liked them and my job was to please the boss.

The bad guys is who we need to target first. And if we can't tattoo their face it means we're not serious about solving the problem. Many re-enter a dozen times.

There are ways to solve the problem but too many people don't want it solved.

And that's fine. We should at least change the immigration laws so we don't have this issue.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-17 AT 06:19PM (MST)[p]Target them all, this isn't rocket science, if they can't earn a living they will leave. They generally need a ssn. I run my payroll thru a payroll service, long story, it's cheaper in the end with the work comp rate they're able to get. They know within a few days if the ss # matches the employee or not. If it doesn't they're gone. No guberment hand outs of any sort if they aren't here legally. We could end this chit in 10 minutes if we wanted to! Our guberment just needs to nut up and enforce the law!
 
Tattooing faces won't work. The truth is half the drug dealing scum suckers being arrested here in Utah already have head and face tattoos ! I believe the only way to stop the problem is to find a way to make the problem country pay and pay a very high price! If we could figure that out it wouldn't take long before the problem people started to disappear. And no TOG we, the United States, would not be the ones making the scum bags disappear.
 
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I didn't read the whole obnoxious link but what part of citizens of the United states did you not comprehend?

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
Yeah, like Trump you don't like to read. and like Trump you're uninformed.

Read the supreme court decisions. you'll learn what the options are rather than speculate.















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From the ending of the article.







(A) Given those realities, the next immigration fault line will hinge on the definition of a "crime."

A1) I say with great remorse, like said above: "Deport them all".

(B) For most Americans, identity theft, falsification of government affidavits or trafficking in fraudulent Social Security numbers are the sort of violations that would end their own careers and unwind the very cohesiveness of government.

B1) This is how the average Joe & Jane live. None of us ever wish to even get a speeding ticket. If we do...it's hell to pay. Especially a DUI.

(C) Rural or inner-city poor American citizens would go to jail for identity theft or lying on state and federal documents. Yet immigration activists sometimes seek to downplay these sorts of crimes as simply inherent in the desperate plight of the immigrant.

C1) Radical Jihad Islamist just as with Radical Liberals (Neighbors or Co-Workers we know) decide to pick and choose what they want. Be it a Holy Book or Twisted Constitution or; a wild personal thought which is itself, Radical.

(D) In sum, after the border is closed, and as long as the Trump administration does not summarily deport employed, crime-free, undocumented immigrants who have lived here for years, its reform agenda will quickly win the debate and at last return immigration to a legal enterprise.

D1) This is identical individual and at times, a group that is in Combat and THEY don't wish to Shoot at The Enemy, and Piss Them Off....and get shot back at. ie, trying to be below the Radar.

(E) In turn, Trump opponents will discover that while a small percentage of the undocumented have committed violent crimes, a far larger percentage than is commonly reported may have committed identity theft or falsified government documents.

E1) Just as in D1, it is a Pacifist approach UNTIL you or a friend (especially your Mother/Father as Seniors) is Hit by such Financial Destruction's.

(F) Arguing to Americans that these are neither real crimes nor deportable offenses will prove no more a winning message for Trump's critics than would deporting productive and law-abiding residents who entered the U.S. illegally win support for Trump himself.

F1) Go Figure...? But every time CHANGE hits, Humans resist. It is a Shock to the Conscious. However, if Trump were to use the first year, deporting all illegals, a New Norm would become common place. Likely even helping relationships between Mexico and America as time passes. It's like, if you were told in 1990 or ? that in the 2001 and years to follow, everyone would be carrying a Telephone and a Camera. That is Shock The Conscious for anyone to hear in 1990 yet now, it is Normal.

wetmule, that is one heck of a link/article. Great contribution.

Jagerdad :)
 
OK TOG show me the court ruling that says illegals can not be deported because they commit fraud or identity theft. Like I have said before make up your mind. Deport them or not. Stop being the fence sitter you are. MAKE UP YOUR MIND !!! Who are you TOG ???
 
Didn't I say deport them? I think the constitution allows it.

You asked for other options. what other options does the constitution allow since we've established they do have some rights under it ?

you're arguing with yourself.















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The whole world loves our Constitution and use it to rape our Country.
 
Notags would you agree that Courts, including the Supreme court have muddied the waters by counting Illegals as persons? Which gives politicians reasons to oppose their deportation or make deportation more difficult?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/supreme-court-illegals-count-apportionment/

In 1981 in Pyler Vs. Doe the court ruled that illegal immigrants by virtue of being persons are afford constitutional protections of Due Process.

In Zadvydas vs. Davis the court ruled

- that the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment applies to "all aliens who presence may be unlawful, involuntary or transitory"

In Wong Wing vs. United State the Court ruled

-That even aliens or persons in said States should not be held to answer for capital or other infamous crimes without presentment or indictment of a grand jury or deprive of life, liberty or property without due process.


So we are going to count them in our census and use that number for setting our congressional districts. Which Red States like Texas love because House seats are apportioned by population. Then we are going to extend the constitutional rights to them of due process how exactly do we get over that hurdle?

Yes they can and are deported, our courts have ruled we can't just haul them to the border and dump them off willy nilly or without due process.


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That's how I see it. but it's not what the wingnuts are looking for.

Don't like the constitution 264? how cold you . you like Trump.












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Illegal aliens do have constitutional rights. Duh. Otherwise people could just shoot them.

It's just too bad the Mexican government is so corrupt and treats the people so poorly they feel compelled to leave.

Maybe we should "annex" Mexico. A wall across the southern border of Mexico would be a lot shorter.
 
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Yes I do , You just can't figure sh#t out,quit buying fake news.
 
I have no desire to annex Mexico. Too many Mexicans there. Just give them California and build the wall along the AZ border.
 
Illegal aliens do get due process. There are ICE courts set up for that sole purpose. And yes NEMO I do believe the courts have muddied the waters. Let me ask this one simple question. Does anyone think the founding fathers of this country had in mind the things that are going on today ?
 
I doubt the Founders had any more notion of what illegal aliens are than an iphone is .

When news traveled only as fast as a horse it was a different world. If we believe the Constitution is adequate today to protect us then it matters little what the Founders thought and much more about what they wrote.

Nemont
 
When the 2nd amendment was written do you think the founding fathers envisioned AR-15's with 100 round drums legally in the hands on people on the no fly list? we could play this game for weeks. so let's go with what the courts have said.














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No need to go down into the weeds. An over look at a New Law does not need to infringe on any real or imagined rights. A New Law could easily be written as a "Civil Penalty" as in Civil Codes & Procedures or... with a due process, monetary fines are attached to an individual before they are Deported. Then using many other Books, like the IRS Codes, branches of co-conspirators, Primary & Secondary Actors (Parties) could also be attached to said fines or garner their own separate Civil fines.

Simple... Just Chase After & Seize ALL of the "Money's".

Once this is in action, many folks will Cry Uncle. Say in a year or two, the waters will settle. The other "Long Arm of the Law" will conduct deportations as usual.

Just a contribution to the post's endeavor to summon options.
 
So we are implying they have some constitutional rights and not all of them? If we declare they have one why don't they have all? Can I haul a pile into cali and influence elections with their vote? Oh wait what am I saying.....
 
DW: Constitutional rights may be set aside and never viewed when using a Civil Code. It is a Civil Penalty, not a Criminal Penalty insofar as a New Law.

And NO BUDDY :) I for one don't such folks hauled here. And YES, Our California Politicians would love them.
 
TOG you rocket scientist people on the no fly list are restricted people. That means it is illegal for them to posses any gun. That is a law. Works real well don't it ? You talking about the second amendment makes me want to puke !
 
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Seen it. Gonna start wearin one to work!
 
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Careful DW. You'll be working alone. :D
 
It also works at Dept. of Motor Vehicles. . . . It saved me 5 hours.

At the Laundromat, 3 minutes after entering, I had my choice of any machine, most still running.

It might also cut your wait time at the grocery store.

But...don't try it at McDonald's?
The whole crew ran out the back door and I never did get my order!
 
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The older I get, the more that's just the way I like it!

I hear that circus music and I look around for somebody to bring me a Margarita and chips and salsa!
 

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