WSJ-Trump Like a Drunk

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 09:49AM (MST)[p]

What does one of the most conservative and widely respected News papers in America know about anything.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-presidents-credibility-1490138920

Not sure how many subscribe to the WSJ so I pulled some quotes from it.

Quote:

Yet the President clings to his assertion like a drunk to an empty gin bottle, rolling out his press spokesman to make more dubious claims. Sean Spicer?who doesn't deserve this treatment?was dispatched last week to repeat an assertion by a Fox News commentator that perhaps the Obama Administration had subcontracted the wiretap to British intelligence.

Quote:
The wiretap tweet is also costing Mr. Trump politically as he hands his opponents a sword. Mr. Trump has a legitimate question about why the U.S. was listening to his former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and who leaked news of his meeting with the Russian ambassador. But that question never gets a hearing because the near-daily repudiation of his false tweet is a bigger media story.

Quote:

All of this continues the pattern from the campaign that Mr. Trump is his own worst political enemy. He survived his many false claims as a candidate because his core supporters treated it as mere hyperbole and his opponent was untrustworthy Hillary Clinton. But now he's President, and he needs support beyond the Breitbart cheering section that will excuse anything. As he is learning with the health-care bill, Mr. Trump needs partners in his own party to pass his agenda. He also needs friends abroad who are willing to trust him when he asks for support, not least in a crisis.

I know for the dyed in orange Trump supports the facts don't matter but for the rest of the country it is beginning to look like the guy is a nut case. Also I know most Trumpeteers don't believe politics matter any more but they do. For a President who won the electoral college but lost the popular vote to act like he has a sweeping mandate and believes that he can offend every ally that is dangerous ground.

If any of you true Trump believers can rebut or refute any of the editorial I would love to hear a well thought out, none emotion filled explanation that doesn't blame the media, Hillary or Obama for Trump's continued and intentional antics and how they further the good of the country.

Nemont

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

Since I asked for a rebuttal and not certain if you all can sign in to read it, here it is in it's entirety.

OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK
A President's Credibility
Trump?s falsehoods are eroding public trust, at home and abroad

March 21, 2017 7:28 p.m. ET
1900 COMMENTS
If President Trump announces that North Korea launched a missile that landed within 100 miles of Hawaii, would most Americans believe him? Would the rest of the world? We?re not sure, which speaks to the damage that Mr. Trump is doing to his Presidency with his seemingly endless stream of exaggerations, evidence-free accusations, implausible denials and other falsehoods.

The latest example is Mr. Trump?s refusal to back off his Saturday morning tweet of three weeks ago that he had ?found out that [Barack] Obama had my ?wires tapped? in Trump Tower just before the victory? on Election Day. He has offered no evidence for his claim, and a parade of intelligence officials, senior Republicans and Democrats have since said they have seen no such evidence.

Yet the President clings to his assertion like a drunk to an empty gin bottle, rolling out his press spokesman to make more dubious claims. Sean Spicer?who doesn't deserve this treatment?was dispatched last week to repeat an assertion by a Fox News commentator that perhaps the Obama Administration had subcontracted the wiretap to British intelligence.

That bungle led to a public denial from the British Government Communications Headquarters, and British news reports said the U.S. apologized. But then the White House claimed there was no apology. For the sake of grasping for any evidence to back up his original tweet, and the sin of pride in not admitting error, Mr. Trump had his spokesman repeat an unchecked TV claim that insulted an ally.

The wiretap tweet is also costing Mr. Trump politically as he hands his opponents a sword. Mr. Trump has a legitimate question about why the U.S. was listening to his former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and who leaked news of his meeting with the Russian ambassador. But that question never gets a hearing because the near-daily repudiation of his false tweet is a bigger media story.

FBI director James Comey also took revenge on Monday by joining the queue of those saying the bureau has no evidence to back up the wiretap tweet. Mr. Comey even took the unusual step of confirming that the FBI is investigating ties between the Trump election campaign and Russia.

Mr. Comey said he could make such a public admission only in ?unusual circumstances,? but why now? Could the wiretap tweet have made Mr. Comey angry because it implied the FBI was involved in illegal surveillance? Mr. Trump blundered in keeping Mr. Comey in the job after the election, but now the President can't fire the man leading an investigation into his campaign even if he wants to.

All of this continues the pattern from the campaign that Mr. Trump is his own worst political enemy. He survived his many false claims as a candidate because his core supporters treated it as mere hyperbole and his opponent was untrustworthy Hillary Clinton. But now he's President, and he needs support beyond the Breitbart cheering section that will excuse anything. As he is learning with the health-care bill, Mr. Trump needs partners in his own party to pass his agenda. He also needs friends abroad who are willing to trust him when he asks for support, not least in a crisis.

This week should be dominated by the smooth political sailing for Mr. Trump?s Supreme Court nominee and the progress of health-care reform on Capitol Hill. These are historic events, and success will show he can deliver on his promises. But instead the week has been dominated by the news that he was repudiated by his own FBI director.

Two months into his Presidency, Gallup has Mr. Trump?s approval rating at 39%. No doubt Mr. Trump considers that fake news, but if he doesn't show more respect for the truth most Americans may conclude he's a fake President.

Appeared in the Mar. 22, 2017, print edition

264mag · Mar 22, 2017

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17
>AT 09:49?AM (MST)
>
>
>
>What does one of the most
>conservative and widely respected News
>papers in America know about
>anything.
>
>https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-presidents-credibility-1490138920
>
>Not sure how many subscribe to
>the WSJ so I pulled
>some quotes from it.
>
>Quote:
>
>Yet the President clings to his
>assertion like a drunk to
>an empty gin bottle, rolling
>out his press spokesman to
>make more dubious claims. Sean
>Spicer?who doesn't deserve this treatment?was
>dispatched last week to repeat
>an assertion by a Fox
>News commentator that perhaps the
>Obama Administration had subcontracted the
>wiretap to British intelligence.
>
>Quote:
>The wiretap tweet is also costing
>Mr. Trump politically as he
>hands his opponents a sword.
>Mr. Trump has a legitimate
>question about why the U.S.
>was listening to his former
>National Security Adviser Michael Flynn,
>and who leaked news of
>his meeting with the Russian
>ambassador. But that question never
>gets a hearing because the
>near-daily repudiation of his false
>tweet is a bigger media
>story.
>
>
>Quote:
>
>All of this continues the pattern
>from the campaign that Mr.
>Trump is his own worst
>political enemy. He survived his
>many false claims as a
>candidate because his core supporters
>treated it as mere hyperbole
>and his opponent was untrustworthy
>Hillary Clinton. But now he's
>President, and he needs support
>beyond the Breitbart cheering section
>that will excuse anything. As
>he is learning with the
>health-care bill, Mr. Trump needs
>partners in his own party
>to pass his agenda. He
>also needs friends abroad who
>are willing to trust him
>when he asks for support,
>not least in a crisis.
>
>
>
>I know for the dyed in
>orange Trump supports the facts
>don't matter but for the
>rest of the country it
>is beginning to look like
>the guy is a nut
>case. Also I
>know most Trumpeteers don't believe
>politics matter any more but
>they do. For a
>President who won the electoral
>college but lost the popular
>vote to act like he
>has a sweeping mandate and
>believes that he can offend
>every ally that is dangerous
>ground.
>
>If any of you true Trump
>believers can rebut or refute
>any of the editorial I
>would love to hear a
>well thought out, none emotion
>filled explanation that doesn't blame
>the media, Hillary or Obama
>for Trump's continued and intentional
>antics and how they further
>the good of the country.
>
>
>
>Nemont
yawn

264mag · Mar 22, 2017

>Since I asked for a rebuttal
>and not certain if you
>all can sign in to
>read it, here it is
>in it's entirety.
>
>
>OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK
>A President's Credibility
>Trump?s falsehoods are eroding public trust,
>at home and abroad
>
>
>March 21, 2017 7:28 p.m. ET
>
>1900 COMMENTS
>If President Trump announces that North
>Korea launched a missile that
>landed within 100 miles of
>Hawaii, would most Americans believe
>him? Would the rest of
>the world? We?re not sure,
>which speaks to the damage
>that Mr. Trump is doing
>to his Presidency with his
>seemingly endless stream of exaggerations,
>evidence-free accusations, implausible denials and
>other falsehoods.
>
>The latest example is Mr. Trump?s
>refusal to back off his
>Saturday morning tweet of three
>weeks ago that he had
>?found out that [Barack] Obama
>had my ?wires tapped? in
>Trump Tower just before the
>victory? on Election Day. He
>has offered no evidence for
>his claim, and a parade
>of intelligence officials, senior Republicans
>and Democrats have since said
>they have seen no such
>evidence.
>
>Yet the President clings to his
>assertion like a drunk to
>an empty gin bottle, rolling
>out his press spokesman to
>make more dubious claims. Sean
>Spicer?who doesn't deserve this treatment?was
>dispatched last week to repeat
>an assertion by a Fox
>News commentator that perhaps the
>Obama Administration had subcontracted the
>wiretap to British intelligence.
>
>That bungle led to a public
>denial from the British Government
>Communications Headquarters, and British news
>reports said the U.S. apologized.
>But then the White House
>claimed there was no apology.
>For the sake of grasping
>for any evidence to back
>up his original tweet, and
>the sin of pride in
>not admitting error, Mr. Trump
>had his spokesman repeat an
>unchecked TV claim that insulted
>an ally.
>
>The wiretap tweet is also costing
>Mr. Trump politically as he
>hands his opponents a sword.
>Mr. Trump has a legitimate
>question about why the U.S.
>was listening to his former
>National Security Adviser Michael Flynn,
>and who leaked news of
>his meeting with the Russian
>ambassador. But that question never
>gets a hearing because the
>near-daily repudiation of his false
>tweet is a bigger media
>story.
>
>FBI director James Comey also took
>revenge on Monday by joining
>the queue of those saying
>the bureau has no evidence
>to back up the wiretap
>tweet. Mr. Comey even took
>the unusual step of confirming
>that the FBI is investigating
>ties between the Trump election
>campaign and Russia.
>
>Mr. Comey said he could make
>such a public admission only
>in ?unusual circumstances,? but why
>now? Could the wiretap tweet
>have made Mr. Comey angry
>because it implied the FBI
>was involved in illegal surveillance?
>Mr. Trump blundered in keeping
>Mr. Comey in the job
>after the election, but now
>the President can't fire the
>man leading an investigation into
>his campaign even if he
>wants to.
>
>All of this continues the pattern
>from the campaign that Mr.
>Trump is his own worst
>political enemy. He survived his
>many false claims as a
>candidate because his core supporters
>treated it as mere hyperbole
>and his opponent was untrustworthy
>Hillary Clinton. But now he's
>President, and he needs support
>beyond the Breitbart cheering section
>that will excuse anything. As
>he is learning with the
>health-care bill, Mr. Trump needs
>partners in his own party
>to pass his agenda. He
>also needs friends abroad who
>are willing to trust him
>when he asks for support,
>not least in a crisis.
>
>
>This week should be dominated by
>the smooth political sailing for
>Mr. Trump?s Supreme Court nominee
>and the progress of health-care
>reform on Capitol Hill. These
>are historic events, and success
>will show he can deliver
>on his promises. But instead
>the week has been dominated
>by the news that he
>was repudiated by his own
>FBI director.
>
>Two months into his Presidency, Gallup
>has Mr. Trump?s approval rating
>at 39%. No doubt Mr.
>Trump considers that fake news,
>but if he doesn't show
>more respect for the truth
>most Americans may conclude he's
>a fake President.
>
>
>Appeared in the Mar. 22, 2017,
>print edition

yawn

DW · Mar 22, 2017

It's just hard to believe any of these news outlets after they said there's no way trump wins last November. It's almost comical reading them say no one believes trump when the truth is so many of us no longer believe them.

Forthewall · Mar 22, 2017

Congratulations DW you are living proof that the Russian disinformation campaign has been successful.

"Former Russia Today anchor Liz Wahl told CNN that the goal of the Russian media is to create disinformation to undermine democracy and faith in institutions.

Said Wahl: ?I mean, that is the main goal of Russian disinformation, whether it be through their television channels, whether it be through other measures like hacking, like their legions of paid trolls. That is the ultimate goal is to undermine democracy, to undermine faith in our institutions, like the media.?

She added: ?And I think that's the point of Russian media, Russian disinformation has been happening for years now. But people didn't really take it seriously.?

Given the day and age of the internet ignorance is a personal choice and you have chosen poorly.

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 11:44AM (MST)[p]>It's just hard to believe any
>of these news outlets after
>they said there's no way
>trump wins last November. It's
>almost comical reading them say
>no one believes trump when
>the truth is so many
>of us no longer believe
>them.

The bottom line is you don't believe that Trump is damaging himself or his chances of getting his agenda passed by all the nonsense?

I didn't ask if you believed the journal, I asked to explain how his actions are helping the country and how it furthers any agenda or makes people believe what he says. Or do any Trump supporters even care if he actually gets anything done or ends our longest relationships with key allies?

Is important to have a president that at least has a veneer of honesty? I get they all lie about something but Trump is a different kind of liar. he lies and doubles down on the lies and then when he does have to finally admit his has been lying for years, he blames somebody else. Ie the birther BS.

Keep thinking that it doesn't matter because it will dawn on you guys at some point.

Nemont

DW · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 12:46PM (MST)[p]
>Congratulations DW you are living proof
>that the Russian disinformation campaign
>has been successful.
>
>"Former Russia Today anchor Liz Wahl
>told CNN that the goal
>of the Russian media is
>to create disinformation to undermine
>democracy and faith in institutions.
>
>
>Said Wahl: ?I mean, that is
>the main goal of Russian
>disinformation, whether it be through
>their television channels, whether it
>be through other measures like
>hacking, like their legions of
>paid trolls. That is the
>ultimate goal is to undermine
>democracy, to undermine faith in
>our institutions, like the media.?
>
>
>She added: ?And I think that's
>the point of Russian media,
>Russian disinformation has been happening
>for years now. But people
>didn't really take it seriously.?
>
>
>Given the day and age of
>the internet ignorance is a
>personal choice and you have
>chosen poorly.

If the media held both sides equally accountable they would be more believable. That is after all their purpose, to bring us the truth, hold our government accountable and let us decide. Not to give us their slanted opinion. He speaks his mind without the filter of how many votes will this get me in 2020. I don't always agree with him and he wasnt my first choice but I respect the fact he tells it like he sees it without worrying about hurting the snowflakes feelings.

Maybe it is the russian disinformation campaign, they are after all using the left wing media, makes sense. Course you're the one buyin in!

https://youtu.be/4JpPU-SwcbE

So was it the Russians making all those left wing media outlets say trump has no shot and Hillary wins in a landslide to influence our election?

Are you one of Russias paid trolls?

DW · Mar 22, 2017

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17
>AT 11:44?AM (MST)
>
>>It's just hard to believe any
>>of these news outlets after
>>they said there's no way
>>trump wins last November. It's
>>almost comical reading them say
>>no one believes trump when
>>the truth is so many
>>of us no longer believe
>>them.
>
>
>The bottom line is you don't
>believe that Trump is damaging
>himself or his chances of
>getting his agenda passed by
>all the nonsense?
>
>I didn't ask if you believed
>the journal, I asked to
>explain how his actions are
>helping the country and how
>it furthers any agenda or
>makes people believe what he
>says. Or do any
>Trump supporters even care if
>he actually gets anything done
>or ends our longest relationships
>with key allies?
>
>Is important to have a president
>that at least has a
>veneer of honesty?
>I get they all lie
>about something but Trump is
>a different kind of liar.
> he lies and doubles
>down on the lies and
>then when he does have
>to finally admit his has
>been lying for years, he
>blames somebody else.
>Ie the birther BS.
>
>Keep thinking that it doesn't matter
>because it will dawn on
>you guys at some point.
>
>
>Nemont

It's been 2 months, let's give it a bit.

gleninaz · Mar 22, 2017

Nunes came out today and said there was surveillance of Trump people and that it may have included Trump. He said it was incidental to an investigation. That would be the Comey investigation? Either way there was surveillance. I am sure there will be more to come of this one.

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

He also said it was legal, which means a judge found a compelling reason for the surveillance. Begs the question about what was happen in the Trump campaign to warrant that.

Keep the fire burning and it becomes a problem that makes it a huge problem and headache for Trump.

Nemont

gleninaz · Mar 22, 2017

You are obviously invested in the Trump is a liar spin. If he was surveilled for any reason then he was spyed on and he is a U.S. citizen. You don't find that troubling? Nothing political about that right?

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 01:25PM (MST)[p]Glen,

Trump is a liar, there is not question about that so I am not invested in anything. Once you decide to run for President or are the President elect you are no longer just another American citizen, you are the next leader of the Country. Have you bothered to read what Nunes has stated?

I am troubled by a couple of things. 1. The length to which Trump supporters will go to support him no matter what he does or says. 2. That you accept anything that reinforces your bias as the truth and any other info that doesn't paint Trump as perfect as fake news. The guy is a shyt show and he is going to cost you the House majority if things don't turn around.

You may want to read about what is really going on rather than trust everything Nunes had to say. He is alarmed and do you know why? He worked on the Trump campaign too.

The Flynn fire isn't going away and Trump clutches the Gin bottle tighter and tighter.

Quote:

"If the Trump campaign?s conversations are caught up in surveilling a foreign agent, there are rules about what you can release and who you can unmask,? Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters. ?That's different than having the Obama administration surveil the Trump campaign.?

In a separate development Wednesday, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee joined with the top Democrat on the panel to ask the Trump administration to turn over all documents detailing Flynn?s contacts with, and payments from foreign sources, including people connected to the Kremlin.

Republican Representative Jason Chaffetz of Utah and Democratic Representative Elijah Cummings of Maryland, asked for all relevant documents by April 3.

I take you are invested in the Trump is the greatest to ever serve, with the biggest crowds ever and the biggest Electoral win since Reagan and that he has his "wires tapped"? Is there anything he does that you would call him a liar on?

Wait until tomorrow and he loses round one of the health care debate. Unless Spicer is a liar as well, he said there is no plan B.

Nemont

gleninaz · Mar 22, 2017

I know Trump lies, I know Obama lied and I know Hillary lied like a rug. I am less invested in Trump than you are. I got what I wanted from him. No Hillary and a SC judge. That is it.

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

So there you have it. Every boomer for himself. I guess the debt no longer is important, foreign threats don't matter, having allies support us doesn't mean anything, nothing matters but on Supreme Court nominee and that Hilldog isn't president. That is spoken like a guy who should no longer claim to be a patriot.

Nemont

gleninaz · Mar 22, 2017

I always strive to be the epitome of a patriot like you.

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 02:17PM (MST)[p]Not if you only hold any president to nominating a Supreme Court Justice and beating their opponent.

That means you don't give a flying phuuck about the stuff that affects everybody or the future given our debt and threats around the world.

Nemont

manny53 · Mar 22, 2017

>not if you only hold any
>president to nominating a Supreme
>Court Justice and beating their
>opponent.
>
>That means you don't give a
>fly phuuck about the stuff
>that affects everybody or the
>future given our debt and
>threats around the world.
>
>Nemont

it all would be comical the crap you believe to be truth if it wasn't so delusional, look you had to eat ur words about me telling you that the lord told me Trump would win give it a few weeks and you'll be eating these words as well....

look when the lame stream media are caught numerous times with fake news, (LIES) normal people like myself tend to close an ear to their rhetoric you should do the same but i won't get my hopes up for now anyways...

you want some real facts here's a fact Comey is a liar and will be proven so shortly...duh

RELH · Mar 22, 2017

Nemont posted this statement below:

____________________________________________________________

He also said it was legal, which means a judge found a compelling reason for the surveillance. Begs the question about what was happen in the Trump campaign to warrant that.
__________________________________________________________

Nemont at this point no one can really say the surveillance search warrant was in good faith and legal unless the entire search warrant affidavit is made public so that the information contained in the affidavit can be confirmed as being reliable.

I have written many search warrants in my career and getting a search warrant approved in CA. is far harder then at the federal level due to more strict guidelines we have here in my state.

I have seen federal search warrants that would never past the litmus test here in CA. I am aware of federal agents failing to include information in their search warrant affidavit that would have the tendency to show their informant was not that reliable due to a conflict of interest. The reason the agent failed to document the conflict of interest was that he could not provide another independent source of information that would confirm the information that was given by the original informant. If the judge was aware of the conflict of interest, he would not sign off on the search warrant without further collaboration.

In plain English the federal agent can B.S. the judge into believing the information and informant was reliable.

We will never see the full affidavit of the search warrant as the agency requesting the warrant will use the intelligence reason or RICCO statues to protect their source and informants.

Be very leary about saying it was a legal search warrant unless you can view all the evidence that was presented in the affidavit. I am sure you are not foolish enough to believe SOME federal agents will not bend the truth or leave out important information in order to achieve his goal.

RELH

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17 AT 03:04PM (MST)[p]

Relh,

You should then be counseling Nunes, not me. I was quoting him. If he wants to get that far over his skis then he must have seen stuff that makes it appear legal based on his briefing, instructions and understanding.

Manny,

Yes once in 20000 posts you got something right when it come to Trump. So you got that one thing. For every time you are right, I have been right 19,999 times. I will take those every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

You are going to have to eat your words that Trump will prosecute Hillary, that the Mexicans will pay for the wall and unless 25 Freedom caucus Republicans don't change their minds by tomorrow you will have to eat your words about repealing and replacing Obamacare.

I know this one truth for sure, I would invite just about everybody I go back and forth with on here to come out to hunt and fish. You are the one guy so far out there that I would never trust around my family or near my house.

Nemont

wetmule · Mar 22, 2017

Interesting! Nunez said the information appeared to be gathered legally under Fisa, said it was significant info. about Trump and his transition team post election, involved dozens of reports that were widely disseminated, none of it involved Russia, said he was alarmed by it. Lots more to learn

RELH · Mar 22, 2017

Nemont, maybe you should be more careful who you quot. I am sure you would not want to put out any of that fake information.

RELH

NeMont · Mar 22, 2017

Two things that will true there will never ever be proof that Trump Towers were illegally wire tapped and that Obama ordered it.

Other than that who knows, Nunez knows more than you or I do and if there was a smoking gun he would gleeful instead of concerned. What if the unmasking of Flynn came from inside the White House?

Nemont

eelgrass · Mar 22, 2017

From FTW's post above:

"Former Russia Today anchor Liz Wahl told CNN that the goal of the Russian media is to create disinformation to undermine democracy and faith in institutions.

Said Wahl: ?I mean, that is the main goal of Russian disinformation, whether it be through their television channels, whether it be through other measures like hacking, like their legions of paid trolls. That is the ultimate goal is to undermine democracy, to undermine faith in our institutions, like the media.?
---------------------------------------------
So why are the Democrats and their media falling for it hook, line, and sinker?

elkassassin · Mar 22, 2017

Maybe Trump & dude should Share some CROWN?

[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!

264mag · Mar 22, 2017

>LAST EDITED ON Mar-22-17
>AT 12:46?PM (MST)
>
>
>>Congratulations DW you are living proof
>>that the Russian disinformation campaign
>>has been successful.
>>
>>"Former Russia Today anchor Liz Wahl
>>told CNN that the goal
>>of the Russian media is
>>to create disinformation to undermine
>>democracy and faith in institutions.
>>
>>
>>Said Wahl: ?I mean, that is
>>the main goal of Russian
>>disinformation, whether it be through
>>their television channels, whether it
>>be through other measures like
>>hacking, like their legions of
>>paid trolls. That is the
>>ultimate goal is to undermine
>>democracy, to undermine faith in
>>our institutions, like the media.?
>>
>>
>>She added: ?And I think that's
>>the point of Russian media,
>>Russian disinformation has been happening
>>for years now. But people
>>didn't really take it seriously.?
>>
>>
>>Given the day and age of
>>the internet ignorance is a
>>personal choice and you have
>>chosen poorly.
>
>
>If the media held both sides
>equally accountable they would be
>more believable. That is after
>all their purpose, to bring
>us the truth, hold our
>government accountable and let us
>decide. Not to give us
>their slanted opinion. He speaks
>his mind without the filter
>of how many votes will
>this get me in 2020.
>I don't always agree with
>him and he wasnt my
>first choice but I respect
>the fact he tells it
>like he sees it without
>worrying about hurting the snowflakes
>feelings.
>
>Maybe it is the russian disinformation
>campaign, they are after all
>using the left wing media,
>makes sense. Course you're the
>one buyin in!
>
>https://youtu.be/4JpPU-SwcbE
>
>So was it the Russians making
>all those left wing media
>outlets say trump has no
>shot and Hillary wins in
>a landslide to influence our
>election?
>
>Are you one of Russias paid
>trolls?
+1

Servehim · Mar 22, 2017

>He also said it was legal,
>which means a judge found
>a compelling reason for the
>surveillance. Begs the
>question about what was happen
>in the Trump campaign to
>warrant that.
>
>Keep the fire burning and it
>becomes a problem that makes
>it a huge problem and
>headache for Trump.
>
>
>Nemont

Want to know more, N please don't imply that just because a tap was authorized it was all on the up and up.....need I remind you of the 9th circuit and the liberal bias of that bunch of "Judges" . Something tells me this is not going to fair well for the Obama administration. Let's wait and see.

NeMont · Mar 23, 2017

>
>Want to know more, N please
>don't imply that just because
>a tap was authorized it
>was all on the up
>and up.....need I remind you
>of the 9th circuit and
>the liberal bias of that
>bunch of "Judges" .
>Something tells me this is
>not going to fair well
>for the Obama administration. Let's
>wait and see.

Serve

You should stick to your circle of church friends and not try to discuss real world events with people who have learned to think for themselves.

The 9th Circuit has zero to do with this you idiot. The issue is the FISA court.

Are you certain President Brannon and company really want an independent investigation of this?

Here is a question. If this kind of surveillance is terrible and illegal and sick, has Trump ended these programs? If not then he is collecting stiff right now on his political enemies. It is a round world.

Nemont

264mag · Mar 23, 2017

>
>>
>>Want to know more, N please
>>don't imply that just because
>>a tap was authorized it
>>was all on the up
>>and up.....need I remind you
>>of the 9th circuit and
>>the liberal bias of that
>>bunch of "Judges" .
>>Something tells me this is
>>not going to fair well
>>for the Obama administration. Let's
>>wait and see.
>
>
>Serve
>
>You should stick to your circle
>of church friends and not
>try to discuss real world
>events with people who have
>learned to think for themselves.
>
>
>The 9th Circuit has zero to
>do with this you idiot.
> The issue is the
>FISA court.
>
>Are you certain President Brannon and
>company really want an independent
>investigation of this?
>
>Here is a question. If
>this kind of surveillance is
>terrible and illegal and sick,
>has Trump ended these
>programs? If not then
>he is collecting stiff right
>now on his political enemies.
> It is a round
>world.
>
>Nemont
Serv don't take it personally,Nemont has a scholarship of name calling.

NeMont · Mar 23, 2017

Serve

Don't be surprised that 264 never makes a single intelligent post. He never has added any value.

Nemont

264mag · Mar 23, 2017

>Serve
>
>Don't be surprised that 264 never
>makes a single intelligent post.
> He never has added
>any value.
>
>Nemont
Funny

Togwotee · Mar 23, 2017

You know you're in trouble when you pray the president is under investigation for teaming with Putin to win the office . because you consider him being a proven liar a worse thing. only in America.

Trump's historically low approval continues to fall as the con man's scam gets exposed.

Stay Thirsty My Friends

264mag · Mar 23, 2017

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>
>
>You know you're in trouble when
>you pray the president is
>under investigation for teaming
>with Putin to win the
>office . because you
>consider him being a proven
>liar a worse thing.
> only in America.
>
>
> Trump's historically low approval
>continues to fall as the
>con man's scam gets exposed.
>
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>
>
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>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Otay ,you sound like Maxine Waters.

Servehim · Mar 23, 2017

>>He also said it was legal,
>>which means a judge found
>>a compelling reason for the
>>surveillance. Begs the
>>question about what was happen
>>in the Trump campaign to
>>warrant that.
>>
>>Keep the fire burning and it
>>becomes a problem that makes
>>it a huge problem and
>>headache for Trump.
>>
>>
>>Nemont
>
>Want to know more, N please
>don't imply that just because
>a tap was authorized it
>was all on the up
>and up.....need I remind you
>of the 9th circuit and
>the liberal bias of that
>bunch of "Judges" .
>Something tells me this is
>not going to fair well
>for the Obama administration. Let's
>wait and see.

N, it will surprise you to know that I'm fully aware of FISA courts and their role in authorizing survalence. My comment regarding the 9th circuit is their uncanny ability to come up with decisions that are in direct conflict with the constitution. These "Judges" on the 9th cuicut are wrong and are overturned more often than any other court....point in case , I would like to know more about the FISA Judge ( is he/she in the mold of the 9th circuit) and the justification on authorizing surveillance of the President Elect ( if that's what happened, possible that information gathered truely was incidental) I want to know if politics rather than legal concerns motivated this . Stop with the name calling, I recognize your intellect but you do not know how this all came down . I am suspicious of political shanangans . I'd vote again tomorrow for Trump over Hillary .

RELH · Mar 23, 2017

Maxine Waters is Dude's new love in life since Hillary got thrown to the wayside. I am waiting to see if Dude will go out and buy himself a red glitter cowboy hat that Maxine loves to wear around in Washington.

RELH