Government Over Reach!!

NeMont

NeMont

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Why is setting aside public lands for hunting and recreating considered government over reach (ie the Bears Ear) but seizing private property to build a border wall is cheered by all these fake conservative Trump leg humpers?


https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-border-wall-mexico-condemnation-letter/

So for the fakers, preserving hunting and recreating on public lands is bad but government seizure of private property is all good. If the border wall was all that and bag of chips wouldn't private land owners be willing sellers?

Nemont
 
Maybe they can just say Canada needs it for a pipe line.


I'm sure Mexico will send enough extra funds to pay whatever it takes to buy these landowners out when the check for the wall shows up.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
You are comparing apples to oranges when you talk about Gov. over reach for the wall vs. taking of land to preserve it's use by the public.

We need that wall to stop more then illegal immigrants. The Mexican drug cartels are using that border to push drugs across and their cartel members.

My oldest son is a field supervisor for a multi agency drug task force. The vast majority of their drug seizures and raids involve Mexican cartel members that are operating in Northern CA.

Are you willing to allow this to increase to the point the cartels increase in force and power to where they bribe law enforcement personnel and local politicians like they are doing in Mexico. Then start killing the ones they can not bribe.

If you have one drop of patriotic blood in you, you will be for the wall being built. If you are against the wall, you are not a patriotic American.

RELH
 
If you believed in private property rights you wouldn't question anyone's patriotism.

Can you name a time in history where a border wall worked long term to fix a problem?

Great Wall of China, nope, Jericho, nein, Berlin Wall, torn down, Israel's wall, tunneled under, ignored or rockets lobbed over it.

No a Patriot would be for saving the billions to build and billions more to maintain and build a barrier more useful, functional and secure without stealing private property. Especially seeing how it is coming off the future sweat of your grand children, not from Mexico.

Nemont
 
The wall might stop some beaners and their fat wives headed up here to pick apples. but is anyone besides RELH dumb enough to think a simple phuking wall will stop the drug trade ? or terrorists? hardened criminals? give me a break already.


The wall represents a physical barrier between good and evil simple folks can identify with. it's simply medeival technology pandering to primitive life forms .













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
I have no doubt that's true.

Tell all the grey panther Californians here they're going to get a cut on their SS checks if the wall goes up. they'll be trying to impeach Trump in an hour.














Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-17 AT 07:00PM (MST)[p]That wall needs to be built to protect our southern border. Along with the wall there must be some drastic changes in our immigration laws to allow the ones in that want to work in order to better themselves and their family.
lets get back to the old workers program, was called the "bracero program" that we had in the early to mid 60's that allowed them in under a work visa. Also a change in the law allowing for HEAVY FINES for a employer hiring illegals that do not have a work visa.

That would take care of the illegals trying to come in for work and we could direct the border patrol effort towards the cartels and the drug trade.

RELH
 
Bush Jr embraced the Bracero Program and was shot down in flames by the GOP establishment.

"He always felt that the failure of his immigration reform effort resulted in the assumption by some that Republicans don't like immigrants. "Now, that may be fair or unfair, but that's the image that came out," Mr. Bush said, the week before his presidency ended."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-last-president-who-couldnt-get-congress-to-act-on-immigration/

We now know, Republicans don't like immigrants.
 
That was the best idea Bush ever had. if it had become law we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we face today.



Well , looks like the great negotiator put his tail between his legs and slinked off. RELH isn't going to get his wall for now, Jose isn't paying for it and neither are we.

You starting to feel like a sucker yet RELH ? the con man just keeps building you up and pulling the rug out from under you. it's all good I like to watch your head hit the floor.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-w...e-bill-days-shutdown-193738178--politics.html









Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-17 AT 09:40PM (MST)[p]






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Dude the only time I would feel like a sucker would be the day I listen to you and felt that you had some great input. That day will never happen as you are the moron of morons.

As for the Republicans, they better get with the program on allowing the illegal immigrants having a work visa and being able to remain on that visa as long as they show having employment. If they do, they will take away the Hispanic vote from the Democrats. Ca. might just become a GOP state then!!!!!

RELH
 
It doesn't bother you at all dear leader folded on your wall again? bullchit. don't give up I'm sure that check from Mexico is in the mail right?

Republicans aren't going to do a work visa bill, get real. they hate brown people would rather import everything than see another one this side of the border. and democrats aren't either because in their fantasy world there are americans who want those jobs.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Bottom line: The Trump Leg Humpers believe that preserving lands for the future of hunting is bad, harmful and a shocking abuse of power but taking private property to build a border wall is just fine because Government knows best.

If it sounds crazy well welcome to the fake conservative world of being completely intellectually dishonest.




Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-17 AT 12:29PM (MST)[p]So you agree that taking private property is great but setting aside some land to hunt on in the future is government over reach?

If border crossings are down 90%, why does the American taxpayer have to cough up $30 billion to build a wall?

Nemont
 
If border crossings are down 90%, why does the American taxpayer have to cough up $30 billion to build a wall?
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Gee! talk about a dumb statement. Very simple. Once the illegals figure out that the wall is not going to be built and deportations will drop, they will be swarming across our border again.

RELH
 
So why not wait for Mexico to cough up the money and build it then? Just threaten that the wall is in the works until then. Why does it take any taxpayer money now, given that the border crossings are nearly non existent now? Wouldn't it be more fiscally prudent to not take from Americans and just wait for the Mexican money to flow and keep up the threat that the border wall was going to be built? Why the Rush to waste taxpayer money if the threat is enough? Don't we have enough time to get the money flowing from the Mexicans? Or is the President simply lying about which people who have to actually pay for it?

Nemont
 
90%....no. 60%...yes. Will that number decrease shortly? Probably. I wouldn't start quoting numbers from the Americanpinhead site.
 
You Don't have to be one of the 3 MM Stooges or the President to know that Mexico is NOT gonna pay for the wall!

JFP!!!








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90%....no. 60%...yes. Will that number decrease shortly? Probably. I wouldn't start quoting numbers from the Americanpinhead site.
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Would that be like the 90% number the Democrats attached to the firearms going into Mexico from the U.S. during the "Fast and Furious" debacle. FW you did not whine and cry then, why are you whining and crying now? Oh, I forgot, the Democrat Double Standard Rule comes into play.

RELH
 
Mexico is not going to pay for the wall? WTF ?





Poor RELH. he just got the shaft from Trump , again, and he shuffles off to his safe spot to cool his azz. Hillary and Obama, it never fails.


This is about Trump and his wall minions. so now what? you're admitting Trump lied about Mexico paying. are you ready to admit he lied about it being built? com'on chumps let stay on subject.







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Not much to whine about RELH, before Fast and Furious you had Operation Wide Receiver under Jr. (06-08) Both sides of the aisle can claim stupidity when it comes to guns and Mexico.
 

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