That's Pretty Trumped Up!

LAST EDITED ON May-22-17 AT 07:51PM (MST)[p]Well it looks like we can toss a few more lying nut jobs on the fire, what do you say RELH?

We all know law enforcement officers suffer from mental illness and are liars, look at Comey. Now it appears that the Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats along with Adm. Mike Rogers are also nut-case liars.

Apparently Trump asked both men to publicly claim "that they saw no evidence of collusion on behalf of Trump or his campaign. Seems to me this just lends even more credibility to Comey's statement and memo. Trump's conversation with Rogers was documented in an internal memo written by a senior NSA official.

We must really have terrible people whether it is the Directors of the D.N.I., F.B.I, N.S.A., even down to judges in court houses that Trump has a case in.

If Trump didn't collude with the Russians.....what would be wrong with him asking that...knowing there could be no evidence???.....

Let the little guy swing his mallet homer. It'll make him feel better.

My opinion of FW has hit the bottom of the basement. Just calling him a liberal tool would be a complement.

RELH

We all know foreskin was the little booger eating kid in school...somethings never change.

I welcome all ad hominem fallacies, it is the intellectual equivalent of waving a white flag.

mine was a real question....

FW I noticed you skipped the post on "The real voter fraud". Your thin skin will not allow you to admit your favorite party is a party of outright deceit. Will stoop to fraud on a general broad basis and not just individual basis like you accuse the Trump people of.
You should be proud of yourself for being so un-American that you can not bring yourself to show your disdain for such deceitful criminal behavior by the DNC.
You are in the basement when it comes to being a American and are morally corrupt.

RELH

You did Homer and the answer is simple, the investigation has not concluded. As such neither the director of the NSA nor the director of the DNI would be careless enough to comment on such matters.

....but an anonymous source would.......these un named sources are getting tiresome.

LAST EDITED ON May-23-17 AT 11:09AM (MST)[p]







This is getting so typical of Trump slurpers, avoid the subject and attack whoever asks questions. just like Trump.


Homer did have a post on subject . Trump asked officials who said they had not seen and evidence of collusion to deny and Russian connection. how can they do that until the investigation is over? it's not these peoples job to give updates on ongoing investigations and the president has no right to ask for them to.


If Trump knows there is no evidence wouldn't he be better off directing more resources towards getting this finished fast rather than firing head investigators and begging for good press from the rest?


If we play this by Trump's standards it fair to say " lock him up ". but we only play by Trump rules when it's good for Trump right?




Stay Thirsty My Friends

If you won't lie , duck and cover.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-inte...uestions-trump-russians-israel-164731711.html














Stay Thirsty My Friends

So TOG you got any proof yet ? Show us please I would love to see or!

So... If I was accused of a crime and I knew I didn't commit said crime and there were people that could corroborate my claim, asking them to vouch for me is a problem why? I mean seriously I hope the independent investigation gets to the bottom of this and if there was collusion then hammer down and hold people accountable.

The problem is that nobody seems to be able to produce any evidence of anything and all you have is "see Trump asked someone to vouch for him so he must be guilty". After damned near a year of FBI investigation there is still nothing to hang Trump on.

Suppose Trump knew that he or his staff colluded with Russia for a minute. Why on earth would he be going around asking some pretty important people to say that he didn't when any idiot would know that if there was evidence he would be in deep shyt?

It seems at this point more likely to me that the left is throwing out anything Russia and the media is eating it up. Trump is simply trying to get someone to put the fire out and every time he does it creates another "scandal".

I could be totally wrong and the Trump campaign worked together with Russia to steal the election. If so, hang 'em high but claiming that someone is guilty because they asked someone else to vouch for them is dumb at best.

That's funny, Bill Clinton, a former president talked to the AG , who knows about what, couldn't have been a crime because none had been committed. ( we had the longest congressional investigation in history and they came up with ZIP )


That was a YUGE deal, phuking YUGE ! but comrade Trump can tell all the investigators to lay off a possible crime he's involved in and that's super duper. if they don't he fires them , again that's ' fabulous ".


If you can't see what a slanthead you are I can't help you.













Stay Thirsty My Friends

LAST EDITED ON May-24-17 AT 00:10AM (MST)[p]Watergate took 2 years from the time the "plumbers" were arrested and to the day Nixon resigned. During that time the Nixon Administration deemed the investigation a witch hunt. Nixon fired the Special Prosecutor then dismantled the office completely.

In a similar fashion such action are what we are seeing today...

H.R Haldeman recommends to President Nixon that they attempt to shut down the FBI investigation of the Watergate break-in, by having CIA Director Richard Helms and Deputy Director Vernon A. Walters tell acting FBI Director L. Patrick Gray to, "Stay the hell out of this". Haldeman expects Gray will then seek and take advice from Deputy FBI Director Mark Felt, and Felt will obey direction from the White House out of ambition. Nixon agrees and gives the order.

We know this because the entire ordeal was taped. But for years until the tapes were turned the public never knew.

There is just too much out there that still needs to be addressed and collusion is simply a stepping stone to prove conspiracy. More importantly it was what Nixon did to cover up Watergate that led to his resignation under fear of impeachment.

When Nixon called the investigation a witch hunt should we have just dropped the whole thing?

We are not "a year" into this, we are barely at 9 months since the first FISA warrant was issued and only about 5 months into a full blown investigation.

Like Watergate we the people must wait for the next news cycle, the next link, the next shoe to drop.

Forgot to mention, Flynn is a lap dog, we know he spoke with Kislyak about lifting sanctions. Somebody above Flynn directed him to make those 5 calls the day sanctions were imposed. Add Page, Manafort and Stone to the equation, the refusal and subsequent lies by Dear Leader releasing his taxes, firing of Comey, and his statement to Flynn to stay strong certainly does not help his cause to clear this matter up.

Occam's razor.

LAST EDITED ON May-23-17 AT 11:51PM (MST)[p]Maybe we just should open the investigation up to all that may have violated federal laws or used our intelligence agencies to spy for political reasons. That would include President Obama if you listen to Carter page.

RELH
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Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page has asked House lawmakers to let him testify in an open session to offer his side in the ongoing probe of Russian meddling in the 2016 race ? maintaining his innocence and blasting the Obama administration for putting him under ?illegitimate? surveillance.



As the pace of Russia investigations intensifies on Capitol Hill, Page made his request in a 23-page letter to two House intelligence committee members.

"I tentatively look forward to testifying on the record regarding these matters before your Committee on Tuesday June 6th,? he wrote.

Page, a peripheral figure in the Trump campaign, added that he understands his testimony "might be held behind closed doors" but requests "that some form of live public access may be allowed."

The letter was sent to Reps. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Michael Conaway, R-Texas.

Page has been a sought-after witness in the various Washington probes pertaining to Russian meddling in the campaign. Page also claimed he was put under inappropriate surveillance under the Obama administration and said he has ?been in contact? with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, newly appointed Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other Justice Department officials ?regarding the multiple outstanding requests for immediate release of illegitimate FISA warrants that were allegedly filed by the Obama Administration against me in 2016."

Page insisted in the letter that "I was the primary known person allegedly put under the most intensive surveillance by the Obama Administration as part of their 2016 domestic political intelligence operation."

The investigation into him was spurred by what Page calls the notorious anti-Trump 'dodgy dossier,' written in part by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele. Page wrote that he considers the investigation into him a "race to the bottom in terms of irrelevancy."

As reported by Fox News on May 5, then-FBI Director James Comey considered the dossier so important that he insisted it be included in January?s final intelligence community report on Russia meddling.

Comey was fired by President Trump on May 9.

The dossier contained salacious allegations about then-candidate Donald Trump. The classified version of the intelligence report issued at the end of the Obama administration included a summary of the document, as an attachment. Both then-President Barack Obama and President-elect Trump were presented with the findings. The New York Times cited two anonymous sources saying the bureau had offered to pay Steele $50,000 for the dossier.

In British court-filed documents signed by Steele in April, a reference to part of the dossier he prepared was described as needing ?to be analysed and further investigated/verified,? according to The Guardian.

Page reiterated in the letter that he never had any direct relationship or meetings with Trump despite serving as an "informal, unpaid member of one of his campaign's committee."

In bolded text, Page emphasized, "I have never done anything wrong in Russia or with any Russian person" and that he "looks forward to the release of the contents of my illegitimate FISA warrant."

That's funny Togtard. Comey certainly didn't think they came up with zip, he said so in his press conference. They only reason she isn't locked up is because he didn't think there was intent which is BS. I guess you missed his famous press conference where he excoriated her and then let her off the hook. You probably don't get to watch much TV when your head is up your ass so we understand. Try to keep up though.

FTW, cool so he's guilty until proven innocent right? I sure wish the left would hold their people to the same standards.

Like I said hang 'em high if there is proof but people are getting tired of watching the left bend over backwards covering up their scandals while blowing up the ones on the right.

Susan Rice had collusion with the NSA and Trump campaign and supporters.I didn't think the NSA could do that but it has been going on for 8 years.

Easy 264, you are playing with big words now. "Colluded with" not "had collusion" as for the rest of the sentence it does not make sense.

>Easy 264, you are playing with
>big words now. "Colluded with"
>not "had collusion" as for
>the rest of the sentence
>it does not make sense.
>
LMAOF ! you ignorant ass

LAST EDITED ON May-24-17 AT 10:52AM (MST)[p]Yeah, okay.

It's just keep getting worse for Dear Leader as each news cycle progresses.

The Washington Post delivered yet another bombshell about the Russia investigation on Monday night. At some point before the May 9 firing of James Comey, senior White House officials ?sounded out top intelligence officials about the possibility of intervening directly with Comey to encourage the FBI to drop its probe of Michael Flynn.?

One official told the Post that the line of questioning from the White House amounted to, ?Can we ask him to shut down the investigation? Are you able to assist in this matter??

This is a significant for two reasons. First, it adds to what we already know about a possible pattern of justice obstruction aimed at interfering with the FBI?s Russia investigation. Second, it suggests that Trump who pressured Comey to go easy on Flynn in a private meeting at the White House wasn?t the only member of his administration who took concrete steps to try to quash the Flynn probe.

Trump asked his director of national intelligence and the head of the National Security Agency to ?publicly deny? that his campaign had colluded with the Russian government. But it's worth remembering how shocking it was, last week, to learn from the New York Times that Trump had encouraged Comey to stop pursuing Flynn.

Though it does feel like ancient history at this point, it was unmistakably a turning point in the Russia story, prompting lawmakers to start talking seriously about obstruction of justice and impeachment, adding pressure on Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to bypass the WH and name a special counsel to take over the Russia investigation.

We now know that Trump?s conversation with Comey was just one part of a broader White House campaign to shut down the FBI?s investigation into Flynn. One that also involved members of his administration trying to enlist ?top intelligence officials? in the effort. And while Trump?s attempts to get credible people to publicly vouch for him certainly adds to the case for obstruction, it's a secondary data point, and one that follows reporting from February about the White House asking the FBI to ?knock down? reports of possible wrongdoing by members of the Trump team.

>Yeah, okay.
>
>It's just keep getting worse for
>Dear Leader as each news
>cycle progresses.
>
>The Washington Post delivered yet another
>bombshell about the Russia investigation
>on Monday night. At some
>point before the May 9
>firing of James Comey, senior
>White House officials ?sounded out
>top intelligence officials about the
>possibility of intervening directly with
>Comey to encourage the FBI
>to drop its probe of
>Michael Flynn.?
>
>One official told the Post that
>the line of questioning from
>the White House amounted to,
>?Can we ask him to
>shut down the investigation? Are
>you able to assist in
>this matter??
>
>This is a significant for two
>reasons. First, it adds to
>what we already know about
>a possible pattern of justice
>obstruction aimed at interfering with
>the FBI?s Russia investigation. Second,
>it suggests that Trump who
>pressured Comey to go easy
>on Flynn in a private
>meeting at the White House
>wasn?t the only member of
>his administration who took concrete
>steps to try to quash
>the Flynn probe.
>
>Trump asked his director of national
>intelligence and the head of
>the National Security Agency to
>?publicly deny? that his campaign
>had colluded with the Russian
>government. But it's worth remembering
>how shocking it was, last
>week, to learn from the
>New York Times that Trump
>had encouraged Comey to stop
>pursuing Flynn.
>
>Though it does feel like ancient
>history at this point, it
>was unmistakably a turning point
>in the Russia story, prompting
>lawmakers to start talking seriously
>about obstruction of justice and
>impeachment, adding pressure on Deputy
>Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to
>bypass the WH and name
>a special counsel to take
>over the Russia investigation.
>
>We now know that Trump?s conversation
>with Comey was just one
>part of a broader White
>House campaign to shut down
>the FBI?s investigation into Flynn.
>One that also involved members
>of his administration trying to
>enlist ?top intelligence officials? in
>the effort.* And while Trump?s
>attempts to get credible people
>to publicly vouch for him
>certainly adds to the case
>for obstruction, it's a secondary
>data point, and one that
>follows reporting from February about
>the White House asking the
>FBI to ?knock down? reports
>of possible wrongdoing by members
>of the Trump team.
Your Muslim right?

Let's cut to the chase, people in Trump's administration are going down on this, done deal. Flynn will be the first.

Now that we have that out of the way, enough with the notion as long as Trump cannot be directly tied to illegal activity all is well and we pick up on day one and continue as if nothing happened. that's just not going to happen.


This is " yuge " no matter how you spin it. work on damage control you idiots and stop the denial and deflection. you own this so man up and play like big kids you're getting boring.


















Stay Thirsty My Friends

Talk about boring. TOG you are the poster boy here for boring. Got any proof or evidence yet Sherlock ?

FTW uses the WaPo and NYT as his credible sources but forgets to use the word allegedly in his post. Let me guess an unnamed source put out this information?

Essentially I could call the WaPo and claim to be a WH insider with juicy tidbits of information but have to remain anonymous and that stupid rag would run with it.

WHERE IS THE GODDAMNED PROOF?

LAST EDITED ON May-24-17 AT 11:48PM (MST)[p]Do it, call them and see how far that goes. When it is a Dem administration leaks go to Fox, Brietbart, or the Times. So this is nothing new nor are anonymous leaks.

Maybe you are too young to remember Deep Throat and no I am not talking about Notags although he is also known as Deep Throat.

Deep Throat was the anonymous leaker the inside source to Woodward & Bernstein that brought Nixon down. It only took 30 years to reveal his name William Mark Felt Sr.

Anonymous sources are vetted, their stories are cross checked with other anonymous sources. To be a viable source you have to have consistent credibility. Be happy you would be stupider than you are now without them.

http://www.speakupspeakout.internew...epts-skills-and-tools/using-anonymous-sources

FW you are foolish if you think they always cross check a anonymous source of information. How many times in the past have so called facts from anonymous sources have proven to be false later down the line.

For you to believe their sources are always crossed checked and confirmed by another source makes you the stupid one.

RELH