IS TRUMP GOING ON THE OFFENSIVE ?

RELH

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-17 AT 11:14PM (MST)[p]I have to wonder if Trump going to the offense on cleaning out milk toast Republicans in order to get his agenda going. If he can do it, other career status quo members of Congress will set up and take a hard look at their position.

RELH
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President Donald Trump on Monday gave a somber address about his strategy in America?s longest-running war in Afghanistan. But that tone will likely change as he holds a campaign-style rally Tuesday night in Phoenix ? where Trump has tossed out some of his more visceral rhetoric ? and feeds supporters samples of what made them love him in the first place.

It could be a pep rally for Trump after the criticism he got last week from many Republicans for the way he appeared to give a nod to white supremacists after the racial violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. The president has also come under heavy criticism for the disarray in the White House that has led resignations and firings in his team?s top tier, and for having no major legislative accomplishments to show for his seven months in office.


One of Trump?s first major rallies after he launched his campaign was in Phoenix in July 2015, a month after his presidential announcement speech, in which he declared that Mexico was sending rapists, drug dealers and criminals into the United States.

?So the Mexican government does not care about the border nearly as much as they care about bad trade deals that the United States is making with Mexico,? he said then.

It was also the start of Trump?s longstanding war of words with Arizona Sen. John McCain.

?We have incompetent politicians, not only the president,? Trump said in reference to then-President Barack Obama. ?I mean, right here in your own state, you have John McCain.?

This remark came a full week before Trump said McCain was ?a war hero because he was captured.?

Since then, Trump has taken to criticizing Arizona?s other Republican Sen. Jeff Flake, tweeting that he was ?WEAK on borders and crime,? and showing support for the senator?s Republican primary opponent, former state Sen. Kelli Ward.

Similarly, Trump?s pivot from acting presidential to throwing red meat to his constituents has precedent from almost a year ago.
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Just finished watching the last of his rally speech. He is on the offensive and two Arizona GOP Senators may not be around next election after their primary. Blasted fake news CNN very well also.
RELH
 
Have you bothered to check whether McCain is up for reelection or not? He was just reelected to another 6 year term in 2016 that January of 2023. Suppose that he doesn't really give two Shyt's what the talking Yam has to say? The Human tanning bed will have to win again in order to see McCain's retirement from the Senate or his death from brain cancer which ever comes first.

Jeff Flake is in a dog fight but do you really want Chemtrail Kelli as the next Senator from Arizona? That primary isn't until next spring so anything can happen but be careful what you wish for.

When your approval rating is already in the tank, going on the offensive carries a lot less weight. Maybe he should be going to work instead and showing off all those vaunted deal making skills he claims to have. He hasn't made a deal of any kind on his agenda and if he keeps after Ole Mitch, he is going to find out that fake news will be writing about the real news of his failures.

Nemont
 
I thought polls were all fake new because Trump has about the same number nationally. Are we to trust polling now as being not fake news? How can you tell which polls are right and which ones are not?

RCP has the average of all polling done on Trump for 8/3 through 8/22 as disapprove 55.6% and approve at 38.1% (-17.5%). It was done by the same polling outfits that did the Flake polls. Are these to be believed that Trump can't hold above 40%?

I could care less about whether Jeff Flake is reelected or not. It matters little. McCain will either die, resign or serve out his term regardless of what the talking Yam has to say.

Nemont
 
I have a little news for you. Trump is not running in 2018. McCain is going to die soon. My B-I-L had brain cancer and no one lives with that one. As for the polls I think I won a Benjamin from someone who believed the Hillary polls. We will have two new senators by next fall.
 
You are right, McCain is not coming back and will probably die within the year. Flake will probably loose his re-election bid with Trump opposing him.
I think Trump is trying to whip the GOP into a group that will band together as the Democrats do on voting for bills even if he has to use the bully whip to do it.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-23-17 AT 01:29PM (MST)[p]How would replacing both of these Senators change the current situation in the Senate? Unless they are replaced with democrats, that would change the situation dramatically. Not likely to happen.

Trump can't win when the Republicans control the levers of power, how will just replacing these two change anything?

Why doesn't he simply deploy his vaunted negotiation skills and get some of his deal making prowess started?

 
Think about what you wrote. McCain was the single vote that tanked the ACA repeal. With him gone it will pass. HELLO.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-23-17 AT 02:37PM (MST)[p]I got news for you. If McCain had not torpedoed the repeal and replace, then Ole Mitch would have never brought it up for a vote. They already knew it wouldn't pass long before McCain ever went to the well. Mitch didn't want to own the repeal and replace because he knew it was a loser. If McCain had not cast that vote some other Senator would have.

I know it easy to blame McCain but he was willing to be the fall guy because he doesn't care about getting reelected. You can believe that the Republicans really wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare. If that was so, they would have had a politically viable plan, that could pass and accomplish their goals. Instead Ryan pushed through a pig and Mitch took that pig and had a pig roast with it.

So blame McCain if that makes you feel good about yourself but without him there, the repeal and replace wouldn't have happened anyway.

Nemont
 
Here in very loose terms are why the health care insurance companies are against the GOP Senate health care bill. Just a broad opinion without any nuts and bolts to explain what it will do or not do.
RELH
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What do health insurers think about the GOP health bills?
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Two large health insurance industry groups, American's Health Insurance Plans and the BlueCross BlueShield Association, have called the Senate bill's provision allowing the sale of skimpier plans "simply unworkable in any form" and said that it would mean prices go up and millions of people who buy on the individual market will lose insurance. One large insurer, Anthem, came out in favor of parts of the House bill while others expressed reservations.
? Alison Kodjak/NPR, Alex Smith/KCUR, Eric Whitney/Montana Public Radio (Updated July 7, 2017)
 
Trump is offensive and that's as far as offensive is going. republicans know this presidency is over and they're not going to fall on their swords for it.

Nemont is correct the failed health bill vote was just a show they would never have let it pass McCain was the fall guy for obvious reasons. Hell Trump was probably in on it.


Don't let any of the facts get in the way of you optimism. by all means I want you to fall from the highest point possible .








Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
And now you have the facts from our esteem village idiot. Who in heck allowed him out of his mushroom cave?

RELH
 
This seems like the perfect time to make your wager on Trump's reelection.

So how much would you like to put on it ? I'm calling your bluff old timer.










Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-17 AT 00:42AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-17 AT 00:40?AM (MST)

You can take your bet and stick it where the sun does not shine. If Trump decides to not run for a second term, or if he should croak, you will be yelling that he did not get re-elected and want your money. Sucker bet at best.
You are still the village idiot.
Since we are talking about bets, you need to be careful about the bet you wanted on amount of jobs created by Obama over Trump.

RELH
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Trump (finally!) reaches million-jobs mark

Trump can finally say, truthfully, that he's created more than a million jobs since entering office.

By MARIANNE LEVINE
| 08/04/2017 08:35 AM EDT
| Updated 08/04/2017 10:46 AM EDT


President Donald Trump's claim that he's created a million jobs finally came true ? months after he first made it.

"We've added ... more than a million private sector jobs," Trump said on June 1, when the Labor Department's tally was about 600,000. On Monday White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, "We've created over a million new jobs since [Trump] took office," when DOL's tally was 863,000.

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With the Labor Department reporting Friday that the economy added 209,000 jobs in July, Trump can finally say, truthfully, that he's created more than a million jobs since entering office. Trump tweeted shortly after the report's release: "Excellent Jobs Numbers just released - and I have only just begun. Many job stifling regulations continue to fall. Movement back to USA!"

July?s jobs number was a decrease from June, when the economy added 231,000 jobs. But unemployment ticked down to 4.3 percent, compared to June?s 4.4 percent. Average hourly private-sector earnings were up 2.5 percent over the previous year, as they were in June.

The pattern of job growth in 2017 remains essentially the same as in 2016. According to the Labor Department, an average of 184,000 jobs per month have been created this year, compared to 187,000 in 2016. If you eliminate January, when President Barack Obama was still in office, the monthly average is a somewhat lower 179,000.

House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady (R-Texas) called the report ?solid? and said, ?Our economy is making steady progress with more people entering the labor force and continued job creation.? But he cautioned that the report ?also shows too many Americans are still having a hard time finding good-paying jobs, getting a raise, and providing for their families.?
 
If Trump decides not to run it will be because he's already resigned or because he knows he cannot win. either way you're left with copious quantities of egg on your face.

Obviously you're not going to bet on Trump's future. you're stupid but not crazy. how about his economic success you're so proud of? let's try this, can he beat the black guy ?

Trump's job growth record will top Obama's 75 straight months of growth?

Trump's economy will top Obama's increases in the DOW and S&P ?

You have the nards for those bets or are you content to just blow smoke and take cover?















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
RELH,

So you are crowing about this?

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The pattern of job growth in 2017 remains essentially the same as in 2016. According to the Labor Department, an average of 184,000 jobs per month have been created this year, compared to 187,000 in 2016. If you eliminate January, when President Barack Obama was still in office, the monthly average is a somewhat lower 179,000.

So Trump is actually slowing down the pace of job growth by 8,000 jobs a month compared to 2016? How exactly is that something to crow about?

I thought all these were fake stats? Now they are real?

I guess it is winning in the eyes of those invested in Team Trump.
Why do you believe the talking Yam now and also believed him when he said those numbers were "Phony"? Both were arrived at using the exact same formula and by the exact same people.

Nemont
 
Nemont I am sure you are smart enough to know that it is harder to add on new jobs after a period of growth in employment. It is easy to increase the jobs market after a decline of employment jobs.
For Trump to continue the increase is good and it may even get better if he gets his way.
I noticed that you and Dude did not mention comparing Trump's first 7 months in office to comparing Obama's first 7 months in office where Obama continued the trend of losing jobs.

RELH
 
>Nemont I am sure you are
>smart enough to know that
>it is harder to add
>on new jobs after a
>period of growth in employment.
>It is easy to increase
>the jobs market after a
>decline of employment jobs.
> For Trump to
>continue the increase is good
>and it may even get
>better if he gets his
>way.
> I noticed
>that you and Dude did
>not mention comparing Trump's first
>7 months in office to
>comparing Obama's first 7 months
>in office where Obama continued
>the trend of losing jobs.
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>
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> RELH
You are correct RELH,Obama was too busy apologizing to the world instead of taking care of Business.
 
I realize you two are too stupid to go check but you may want to go back and review how I treated Obama in his first two terms in regards to the economy.

Why were those same numbers, derived from the same data and put out by the same people considered "phony" under Obama.

Go look at the actual data and job growth has slowed.

If it is all Free Bubble up and Rainbow stew, what is the labor participation rate exactly the same today as it was in January?


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>I realize you two are too
>stupid to go check but
>you may want to go
>back and review how I
>treated Obama in his first
>two terms in regards to
>the economy.
>
>Why were those same numbers, derived
>from the same data and
>put out by the same
>people considered "phony" under Obama.
>
>
>Go look at the actual data
>and job growth has slowed.
>
>
>If it is all Free Bubble
>up and Rainbow stew, what
>is the labor participation rate
>exactly the same today as
>it was in January?
>
>
>
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Did you factor in the free loaders ?
 

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