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RELH

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I had to laugh my butt off over this. This is the guy Dude has said he would vote for and praised all to much. I will be waiting for Dude's slanted reply since his hero disagrees with Dude on this particular matter.

RELH
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Mark Cuban: Trump deal with Democrats was really smart
Billionaire Mark Cuban applauded President Trump's efforts to work with Democrats on a short-term increase to the debt ceiling.

Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban applauded President Trump for making a deal with Democrats on Hurricane Harvey relief and the debt ceiling.


?It's pure classic Donald Trump. I thought it was really smart,? Cuban told the FOX Business Network?s Neil Cavuto during an exclusive interview on Cavuto: Coast to Coast on Thursday. ?The thing about being a salesperson like President Trump is, you want to keep deals alive. The biggest fear a salesperson has is that a deal would die and so working with somebody, even if it's for a short term, even if it's with the Democrats keeps the deal alive.?

Even though the Dallas Mavericks owner has been one of Trump?s biggest critics, in his opinion, this is a ?first step? in doing something ?for the people.?

?I think he's being who the people elected him to be. He?s being a non-politician, he's not a traditional Republican. He hasn't been a Republican all his life. He?s a dealmaker and that's why he got elected. And so he's trying to get deals done without playing partisan politics,? he said.

Cuban also weighed in on President Trump?s push for a 15% corporate tax rate. Opens a New Window. While he believes the goal is right, Trump?s approach is all wrong.

?I think you have to go to corporate America and I think you have to be hands on? I think you go to corporate America, you just walk your way down the fortune 500s to start and say, ?Look, corporate America CEOs, if I give you a tax cut, will you raise the wages of? the bottom 10% of your employees??? he said. ?If he does that, he's going to get his base and he's going to reach far beyond his base because it's an American-wide problem.?
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-17 AT 09:01AM (MST)[p]So one guy who uses the term "bent wrist liberals" and another who cannot allow any criticism of Trump without references to mallets are cheering that Trump is working on the liberal priorities because he can make a deal?

Did you read all of Cuban's comments?
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He hasn't been a Republican all his life.

Trump is coming home to his true political leanings, being an upper westside Liberal, just like Jared and Ivanka, his closest advisers.

So if you are now cheering that Chuck and Nancy have Trump's attention and that the only deals to be made are on the left side of the aisle why does having a Republican majority in Congress matter?


Nemont
 
It doesn't. That is what you dorks keep missing. Trump is the new third party. Some lib, some conservative and a lot of middle. He walked in and stole the identity of the GOP and they let him do it.
 
>It doesn't. That is what you
>dorks keep missing. Trump is
>the new third party. Some
>lib, some conservative and a
>lot of middle. He walked
>in and stole the identity
>of the GOP and they
>let him do it.

+1
 
Nemont we know you hate Trump, and you were a fan of John Kasick. Do you support Kasick's stand on illegal immigrants?
He has a liberal streak in himself that a good old fashion true conservative like you may not like. Or did you get fooled by him?

RELH
 
Trump is neither a republican or a democrat. He is a narcissistic brat.


Narcissistic brat is the definition of the fake conservative therefore it's a subspecies of the republican. not a true 3rd party at all just the bottom feeders of what used to be the GOP.








Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-17 AT 04:09PM (MST)[p]>Nemont we know you hate Trump,
>and you were a fan
>of John Kasick. Do you
>support Kasick's stand on illegal
>immigrants?
> He has
>a liberal streak in himself
>that a good old fashion
>true conservative like you may
>not like. Or did you
>get fooled by him?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>RELH

Find me a candidate I agree with 100% and there will be unicorns and rainbows flying out our your @ss. Kasich never hid who he was, has a core and was a success in an important swing state and has proven he can take half a loaf to get things done. He doesn't step on his own Dyck daily by stupid comments, Puzzy grabbing, Tweeting ignorant things or cratering to the the Klan to get votes.

I don't hate Trump, I hate his actions, I dislike his style, I think he is a joke of person and so far he has given me zero reason think he isn't exactly what I thought he was. A floppy haired cartoon character who has more in common with the Kardashians than any president who has graced the the Oval office.

I want him to succeed. Every success he could have had up to now have almost all fallen apart because of his own stupid way of dealing with people.

Nemont
 
>LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-17
>AT 04:09?PM (MST)

>
>>Nemont we know you hate Trump,
>>and you were a fan
>>of John Kasick. Do you
>>support Kasick's stand on illegal
>>immigrants?
>> He has
>>a liberal streak in himself
>>that a good old fashion
>>true conservative like you may
>>not like. Or did you
>>get fooled by him?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>RELH
>
>Find me a candidate I agree
>with 100% and there will
>be unicorns and rainbows flying
>out our your @ss.
>Kasich never hid who he
>was, has a core and
>was a success in an
>important swing state and has
>proven he can take half
>a loaf to get things
>done. He doesn't step
>on his own Dyck daily
>by stupid comments, Puzzy grabbing,
>Tweeting ignorant things or cratering
>to the the Klan to
>get votes.
>
>I don't hate Trump, I hate
>his actions, I dislike his
>style, I think he is
>a joke of person and
>so far he has given
>me zero reason think he
>isn't exactly what I thought
>he was. A floppy
>haired cartoon character who has
>more in common with the
>Kardashians than any president who
>has graced the the Oval
>office.
>
>I want him to succeed.
>Every success he could have
>had up to now have
>almost all fallen apart because
>of his own stupid way
>of dealing with people.
>
>Nemont
90% of those people are idiots ,Maxine Waters for one.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-17 AT 07:51PM (MST)[p]From a true conservative viewpoint let's just take a quick look at the math..

Dreamers: 800,000

Dreamers contribution to the US economy: Est. $460 Billion

Average Cost to deport Dreamers: $10K per deportation.

Total cost to deport Dreamers: $8 Billion

Current total cost to deport: $468 Billion

As a Conservative it should all come down to numbers and common sense.

Dreamers meet all the requirements we would want from a new citizen. Raised and educated through our system, assimilated, speak English, have a traceable backgound, and have not committed a crime.

So gaining $460 Billion or spending 8 Billion? Face it, one of the tricky aspects of illegal immigration come down to the children. We have already paid for their education, we know they are in limbo when it comes down to citizenship. Sending them down to Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, would be like one of us being sent to country where we would have no status.

We could wave the Dreamers in, yes an amnesty, however, through new policy we could also attach a fee to pay for the program itself making it revenue positive. An agreeable policy with a sunset date that addresses children 8 and older from 8 and younger.

Once Dreamers enter our education system it's game over by age 8. By age 8, they made it, they crossed the finish line.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-08-17 AT 10:02PM (MST)[p]Why don't we follow John Kasick's advice. He stated that law enforcement should not be allowed to hold and turn over any illegal immigrant for any minor crimes, ONLY CRIMES THAT INVOLVE VIOLENCE.
That means the illegal immigrant who committed burglary, car theft, grand theft, identity theft, drug sales, or any felony white collar crime can not be held for deportation by ICE.

The crimes above are felony crimes but do not involve violence. FTW would be pissed if the local gang banger who is a illegal broke into his house and stole his computer and was back out in a week on probation, and walking by his house again while casing it. Yeah! great idea by a liberal.

RELH
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John Kasich

John Kasich?s political views on illegal immigration

John Kasich was a candidate for the Republican Party?s 2016 presidential nomination and the current governor of Ohio. Kasich served as a member of U.S. House of Representatives from 1983 to 2001 representing Ohio?s 12th Congressional District. Kasich is an alumnus of Ohio State University.

Immigration issues

Should local law enforcement be allowed to detain illegal immigrants for minor crimes and transfer them to federal immigration authorities? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime S
 
You need to stop listen to fox news and Breitbart. You should read the actual history of Kasich and his approach to both the police and illegal immigrants. Get some facts first.

Nemont
 
John Kasich?s answer: No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime


That pretty well says it in a nutshell. Kasick has somewhat flopped back and forth on this issue in the past years. Now can you prove that was not Kasick's exact answer to the question. If you can, I might change my mind about him.

RELH
 
It seems your favorite politician is one that checks which way the wind is blowing and goes with it. A typical politician that speaks out both sides of his mouth. Not a real conservative that stands by his values.

RELH
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Kasich?s immigration views ?evolved?


By Darrel Rowland, The Columbus Dispatch


Posted Nov 21, 2014 at 12:01 AM
Updated Nov 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM




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BOCA RATON, Fla. - A little more than four years ago, John Kasich told The Dispatch, ?One thing that I don't want to reward is illegal immigration.? But now, as his fellow Republican governors loudly voice many of the same sentiments, Kasich is urging them to ratchet down the rhetoric and try to work with President Barack Obama to solve one of the nation?s longstanding vexing problems.

BOCA RATON, Fla. -- A little more than four years ago, John Kasich told The Dispatch, ?One thing that I don't want to reward is illegal immigration.?

He called for a comprehensive federal immigration law protecting America?s borders. And he reiterated his longtime support for amending the U.S. Constitution to end birthright citizenship for children born here to illegal immigrants.

But now, as his fellow Republican governors loudly voice many of the same sentiments, Kasich is urging them to ratchet down the rhetoric and try to work with President Barack Obama to solve one of the nation?s longstanding vexing problems.

Related stories: Obama skirts Congress to act on immigration | Obama?s plan isn't enough, say immigrants in central Ohio

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Hours before Obama outlined executive action that could grant a reprieve from deportation for millions now in the country illegally, Kasich conceded that his own stance on immigration has ? evolved? because he is ?maybe a little smarter now.?

?The country needs healing,? he said. ?I wouldn't ever be one to tell you that I don't change my mind or that my thinking doesn't evolve. ... I'm also a different guy than I was years ago. This job grows you up.?

He was the only governor during the Republican Governors Association?s conference this week to express openly a willingness to create a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

?I don't want to see anybody in pain,? Kasich said. ?So I guess when I look at this now, I look at it differently than I did in ?10. Because I've become convinced that sometimes, you just got to say this is what we're gonna do and if you don't like it, there's nothing I can help you.?

In contrast to what he said a month before he won the governor?s office in 2010, Kasich sounded a note of compassion for those struggling to make a new life in America. He noted that his wife had a friend who was forced to return to Nicaragua, and there was nothing he could do about it.


?So when I look at a group of people who might be hiding, who may be afraid, who may be scared, who have children, I don't want to be in a position of where I make it worse for them,? he said.

In response to questions, Kasich said he didn't know whether Ohio will have to act on such issues as driver?s licenses, Medicaid services or in-state college tuition in response to Obama?s action tonight.

The governor also said he hasn't thought about whether Ohio would join a lawsuit threatened by Wisconsin Gov. Walker and outgoing Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

?You have to have dialogue in this country with people who may not think exactly the way you think,? Kasich said.

He did criticize Obama for acting unilaterally rather than reaching out to Republicans, who increased their majority in the U.S. House and took control of the Senate in this month?s election.

?When you do this, you really create such antipathy,? Kasich said. ?We really can't move forward as a country. ... When we become so divided, it gets harder.?

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The statement he made concerning only deporting illegals convicted of crimes of violence was made a few months ago this year. Looks like he flip flops when he runs for office like most politicians.
RELH
 
Do you really want to start pointing out when a candidate changed their tune on an issue. For a diehard Trupette like you that would cause you to take two doses of Geritol.

Stay off Breitbart

Nemont
 
Gee! When did the Columbus Dispatch become Breitbart. You are butthurt because your hero is advocating that Ohio should become a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants.
I guess that makes you a fake conservative for supporting a politician with such liberal ideas and changes his tune depending which way the wind is blowing.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-10-17 AT 04:51PM (MST)[p]"FTW would be pissed if the local gang banger who is a illegal broke into his house and stole his computer and was back out in a week on probation, and walking by his house again while casing it. Yeah! great idea by a liberal."

That's pretty ugly stuff RELH is that really how you see Dreamers? Is that how you feel about Canadian Dreamers too or does their Whiteness give them exception?

https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/dreamer-incarceration-rate#full

"We estimate that DREAMers had an incarceration rate of 0.98 percent in 2015 compared to a native-born incarceration rate of 1.12 percent, a DACA-ineligible illegal immigrant incarceration rate of 0.38 percent, and a legal immigrant incarceration rate of 0.24 percent (Figure 1). The native-born incarceration rate is 14 percent higher than the DREAMer incarceration rate, while DACA-ineligible illegal immigrants and legal immigrants have the lowest rates of all."

Look, allowing 900K-1.2 million Dreamers amnesty to support a revenue positive program solves a world of problems and is the Amercian thing to do. Get em registered, get em in the game paying income taxes and protecting their own SSI card number. It still has to be balanced though and forward looking so that we have a set policy if kids are 6 years or younger leaves deportation as an option.

Kasich RELH, not Kasick. Anwyays Kasich has the correct view which currently complies with the former Dream Act guidelines.

Wow, you really see minorities as they are portrayed on some B Rated late 80s gang movie, apparently they are all MS-13 members?

What are you missing and why are you on the wrong side yet again? You are not taking the liberal side of this issue. You are continuing to embrace bigger government and intrusion.

A positive revenue generator would mean paying our society back for their education, past resources, and perhaps be providing funds to compensate States most affected by illegal immigration social services. Again, these are people we want to welcome into our ranks, they're already here and educated.

Deporting them simply continues a slow bleed from the government trough a multitude of unmanageable programs when it should be outlining a future change in definition, policy, and scope while welcoming our new tax producers.

If we charged $3,000.00 x 900,000 that generates $2.7 Trillion dollars and reduces the size of current government programs. I'm sure the Taxpayers in states that have a high residency of illegal immigration/Dreamers would like some of that money back.

Be a conservative, go by the numbers. This should be a slam dunk and owned by Conservatives. Or leave the Dreamers outside of the system, in limbo to subsidize larger number of ICE agents, detention centers, medical treatments and all the exist in the world of immigration enforcement. Let's avoid flooding an already failed court system in yet another mountain of paperwork and litigation.

This is what the Congress should do to grab this Tiger by the Toe. Concentrate on deportation before the kids get into our school system thus sun-setting a door for future Dreamers.
 
>"FTW would be pissed if the
>local gang banger who is
>a illegal broke into his
>house and stole his computer
>and was back out in
>a week on probation, and
>walking by his house again
>while casing it. Yeah! great
>idea by a liberal."
>
>That's pretty ugly stuff RELH is
>that really how you see
>Dreamers? Is that how you
>feel about Canadian Dreamers too
>or does their Whiteness give
>them exception?
>
>https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/dreamer-incarceration-rate#full
>
>"We estimate that DREAMers had an
>incarceration rate of 0.98 percent
>in 2015 compared to a
>native-born incarceration rate of 1.12
>percent, a DACA-ineligible illegal immigrant
>incarceration rate of 0.38 percent,
>and a legal immigrant incarceration
>rate of 0.24 percent (Figure
>1). The native-born incarceration rate
>is 14 percent higher than
>the DREAMer incarceration rate, while
>DACA-ineligible illegal immigrants and legal
>immigrants have the lowest rates
>of all."
>
>Look, allowing 900K- 1.2 million Dreamers
>amnesty to support a revenue
>positive program solves a world
>of problems and is the
>Amercian thing to do. Get
>em registered, get em in
>the game paying income taxes
>and protecting their own SSI
>card number. It still has
>to be balanced though and
>forward looking so that we
>have a set policy if
>kids are 6 years or
>younger leaving deportation as an
>option.
>
>Kasich RELH, not Kasick. Anwyays Kasich
>has the correct view which
>currently complies with the former
>Dream Act guidelines.
>
>Wow, you really see minorities as
>they portrayed on some B
>Rated gang movie, apparently they
>are all MS-13 members?
>
>What are you missing and why
>are you on the wrong
>side yet again? You are
>no taking the liberal side
>of this issue. You are
>continuing to embrace bigger government
>and intrusion.
>
>A positive revenue generator would mean
>paying our society back for
>their education, past resources, and
>perhaps be providing funds to
>compensate States most affected by
>illegal immigration social services. Again,
>these are people we want
>to welcome into our ranks,
>they're already here and educated.
>
>
>Deporting them simply continues a slow
>bleed from the government trough
>a multitude of unmanageable programs
>when it should be outlining
>a future change in definition,
>policy, scope while welcoming our
>new tax producers.
>
>If we charged $3,000.00 x 900,000
>that generates $2.7 Trillion dollars
>and reduces the size of
>current government programs. I'm sure
>the Taxpayers in states that
>have a high residency of
>illegal immigration/Dreamers would like some
>of that money back.
>
>Be a conservative, go by the
>numbers. This should be a
>slam dunk and owned by
>Conservatives. Or leave the Dreamers
>outside of the system, in
>limbo to subsidize larger number
>of ICE agents, detention centers,
>medical treatments and all the
>exist in the world of
>immigration enforcement. Let's avoid flooding
>an already failed court system
>in yet another mountain of
>paperwork and litigation.
>
>This is what the Congress should
>do to grab this Tiger
>by the Toe. Concentrate on
>deportation before the kids get
>into our school system thus
>sun-setting a door for future
>Dreamers.
HELLLLO VENEZUELA !!!
 
FTW you are full of liberal crap. When you advocate that only illegals that ARE COVICTED OF VIOLENT CRIMES AND LEAVE OUT ALL OTHER FELONIES YOU ARE ADVOCATING FOR A SANCUARY STATE AND LEAVING CONVICTED CRIMINALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

You can slant it anyway you want with your liberal B.S. and it comes back to protecting illegal immigrants that are convicted felons.

He has gone pass protecting and helping illegal immigrants that are here for a better life and willing to work towards that goal.

RELH
 
I want to put an end to it, you want to continue throwing more money at it and growing government. Why don't you join the Conservative side of this issue?
 
Leaving convicted criminals here is not putting a end to it. It is the start of far bigger problem. Do you want the cartels here as they are in Mexico?

RELH
 
WTF why dont you just dont end it by showind us your mounts and your Geo Soros pay stub. Zero snowflake.
 

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