Sanctuary Businesses

Texicans are tough on illegal immigrants, well except when an employer needs employees. They require E-Verify unless the employers isn't working for the state. Wonder if Ted Cruz and Rick Perry ever took any money from the cheap labor movement?


Quote:

Some immigrant rights activists complain that governments, though eager to target workers in the country illegally, protect the employers who hire them. Texas Democrats have come up with a term to describe this situation ? a twist on the phrase ?sanctuary cities? ? that JoAnn Flemming, executive director of the conservative group Grassroots America, says she can agree with.

?It's called ?sanctuary businesses/industry,?? she said. ?That makes a lot of Republicans mad when you use that term, but the fact of the matter is that there is a strong cheap labor lobby in Texas, and they give a lot of money to candidates and they have a lot of influence.?

Sounds like to me that those Republicans are willing to keep the illegal workers that are willing to work for employment, but most draw the line at keeping the riff raff criminals like most Democrats will do and your hero that you support.

RELH

i only have two heroes in my life. Neither are politicians so not sure what smack you are talking now. You should get off off President Bannon's schlong long enough to see what Kasich actually said regarding felons who are here illegally, not that the truth matters a bit to a Trumpteer. Truth and Trump supporters are mutually exclusive.

Nemont

If anybody is sucking, it is you with Kasich. I know what he has said and flip flopped around. He was very clear when he replied to that reporter, only illegal immigrants that COMMITT VIOLENT CRIMES should be held by local law enforcement for ICE to deport.
That statement was just a few months ago and appears to be his latest stand on that subject.

RELH

LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-17 AT 08:26PM (MST)[p]Immigration


Somewhat
Important


Should illegal immigrants have access to government-subsidized healthcare? Stats Discuss

John Kasich has not answered this question yet. Would you like to suggest their answer?

You: No, and the government should never subsidize healthcare


Somewhat
Important


Should local law enforcement be allowed to detain illegal immigrants for minor crimes and transfer them to federal immigration authorities? Stats Discuss

John Kasich voters: No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime S

You: Yes


Somewhat
Important


Should the US increase or decrease the amount of temporary work visas given to high-skilled immigrant workers? Stats Discuss

John Kasich voters: I am satisfied with the current amount S

You: Increase


Less
Important


Should working illegal immigrants be given temporary amnesty? Stats Discuss

John Kasich voters: Yes, create a simple path to citizenship for immigrants with no criminal record S

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Nemont I can agree with Kasich on most of his immigration ideas except for two major ones.
Any of them that commit a felony crime should be deported, not just violent crimes.
I do not believe that blanket amnesty should be granted and all given citizenship. Give them worker status. If they serve a tour of duty in the military and received a honorable discharge, allow them to take the test for citizenship. If they obtain a B.A. degree or higher from a creditable college or university, allow them to take the citizenship test.
The vast majority of them are unskilled labors with no to little education that limits them to minimum wage jobs. We have too many states that will pay more in welfare benefits then they can make working the fields or flipping burgers and the incentive to go on welfare will be too great for a portion of them if given citizenship rights. It could bankrupt the welfare system in some states that has a high population of them.

RELH

So the old timer and his orange squeeze have set into motion imminent amnesty.

A state of indecision wasn't good enough, you had to have a conclusion but you were too stupid to predict what that would be.

Deportation is not even a remote option. so what does that leave Einstein? it's Reagan all over again and your Steve Bannon's are going to revolt. the libs will let you kill each other off and pick up the votes from the new citizens you just made.

You're some real smart players you are.









Stay Thirsty My Friends

"The vast majority of them are unskilled labors with no to little education that limits them to minimum wage jobs."

Wrong again. Kasich has it right.

Why talk out your azz when you can just click on the link below and not make a even larger fool of yourself?

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca#guidelines

Defending Trump #sad #desperate #worstPOTUS

>"The vast majority of them are
>unskilled labors with no to
>little education that limits them
>to minimum wage jobs."
>
>Wrong again. Kasich has it right.
>
>
>Why talk out your azz when
>you can just click on
>the link below and not
>make a even larger fool
>of yourself?
>
>https://www.uscis.gov/archive/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca#guidelines
>
>Defending Trump #sad #desperate #worstPOTUS
Obama's sh#t just lingers on.

LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-17 AT 11:51PM (MST)[p]FTW you are still full of B.S. along with your liberal so called facts given out. Are you going to sit on your liberal behind and tell me that the majority of those illegal aliens that sneaked across the border have higher then a high school education. Crap most of them never finished grade school in Mexico let along high school.

You are one dumb idiot that drinks the kool aid.
Do not confuse illegal immigrants with legal immigrants who do have a good percentage of college diplomas. Read the last sentence in the information I pasted below.

RELH

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California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state?s total population, according to the Pew Research Center.

While the number of illegal immigrants in California continues to rise, the increase in other areas of the country is happening at a much faster rate. The nationwide average increase in illegal immigrant populations was about 250 percent from 1990 to 2007, the Pew study said. In California, the rise was 88 percent.

In the early 1990s, California had over 40 percent of the total illegal immigrant population in the country. That rate had fallen to just about 23 percent by 2007. California saw a decline in illegal immigration from 2009 to 2012.

Urgent: Do You Support Immigration Reform?

The Pew Research Center attributed the fall in the numbers of illegal immigrant populations in California to the fact that more immigrants are simply moving to other states. In 2012, while California had more numbers than any other state, the highest percentage of the overall population went to Nevada, where unauthorized immigrants accounted for 7.6 percent of the state?s population.

The Migration Policy Institute estimated the number of illegal immigrants living in California to be much higher than the Pew Research Center's estimate. The Migration Policy Institute estimated a little more than 3 million undocumented residents living in the state. Of those, 70 percent are from Mexico. About 412,000 come from Asian countries. Another 480,000 come from Central America and China.

Illegal immigration in California brings in high numbers of marginally educated immigrants. About 11 percent of the adults who are undocumented immigrants in California are believed to have a college level education, according to the Migration Policy Institute. About 32 percent have a high school diploma or some college. That leaves 57 percent with education below the level of a high school diploma or GED.

Here is the larger shovel you asked for..

Don't confuse illegal immigrants with those that qualify for Dreamer status and Kasich's stand on Dreamers.

http://www.newsweek.com/dreamers-daca-statistics-trump-deadline-657201

"5. About 788,000 have had their requests for DACA status accepted, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

6. In order to apply for DACA, immigrants had to be younger than 31 on June 15, 2012.

7. They must have come to the U.S. before turning 16. They must have lived in the U.S. since June 15, 2007.

8. In a Center for American Progress survey of roughly 3,000 DACA recipients, nine-tenths of respondents said they had jobs.

9. Their average hourly wage was $17.46 an hour, up from $10.29 before receiving DACA.

10. About 72 percent of respondents were in higher education.

11. After getting DACA, nearly 80 percent of respondents said they got driver's licenses. About half became organ donors.

Make up your mind as to what you would like to talk about, illegal immigrants as a whole or Dreamers. They are not the same thing, only you are now equating them to be the same.

The liberal so-called facts you refer to from my previous reply show a link to USCIS, these are the only facts. Facts that completely counter your pathetic breitbart inspired false assertions about employment levels, education, crime, or the notion that only violent felonies disqualify Dreamer applicants.

This is why you make such a great Trump supporter and why I predict even after he has left office in utter disgrace as the worst POTUS in the history, you will still be defending him. You are well past the point of caring about facts, principles, or political foundations.

If RELH was ever going to admit he's a gullible dope he'd have used one of his many opportunities in the past. he's been bent over the stump too long to see things at a normal level.


When Trump goes they will be victims . they're always the victims.







Stay Thirsty My Friends

>
>Nemont I can agree with Kasich
>on most of his immigration
>ideas except for two major
>ones.
> Any of
>them that commit a felony
>crime should be deported, not
>just violent crimes.
> I do not
>believe that blanket amnesty should
>be granted and all given
>citizenship. Give them worker status.
>If they serve a tour
>of duty in the military
>and received a honorable discharge,
>allow them to take the
>test for citizenship. If they
>obtain a B.A. degree or
>higher from a creditable college
>or university, allow them to
>take the citizenship test.
> The vast
>majority of them are unskilled
>labors with no to little
>education that limits them to
>minimum wage jobs. We have
>too many states that will
>pay more in welfare benefits
>then they can make working
>the fields or flipping burgers
>and the incentive to go
>on welfare will be too
>great for a portion of
>them if given citizenship rights.
>It could bankrupt the welfare
>system in some states that
>has a high population of
>them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>RELH

Can you show me verbatim where Kasich stated that illegals convicted of a felony should not be deported. I mean one with a direct quote of him stating such a thing? Not putting words in his mouth or the breitbart special editing to not include the entire quote?

He has stated nonviolent illegals should be able to stay and breitbart/foxnews added the words nonviolent felons to the discussion.

At the very least Kasich is a decent human, I can't say the same for the puzzy grabbing, talking yam. Cheer lead for the human tanning bed all you want, this is America you are free to believe as you wish. I choose to look at what is happening instead of what trying to changing my view to support a guy who is working on the liberal agenda. Watch as he makes more deals with the left, Chuck and Nancy are going to make Paul and Mitch meaningless.



Nemont

Nemont, read the last question asked of Hillary Clinton and John Kasich.

Also the Washington Post had an article where John Kasich made the statement that they should only be deported for violent crimes. I do not think the Washington Post could be considered Faux or Breitbart news agency.
RELH
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Elections:

2016 Presidential

Candidates:

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John KasichHillary Clinton

John Kasich vs Hillary Clinton on immigration issues



Immigration issues



Should Muslim immigrants be banned from entering the country until the government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No S

Hillary Clinton?s answer: No S



Should the U.S. build a wall along the southern border? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: Yes, but make it a high-tech surveillance barrier instead of a physical one S

Hillary Clinton?s answer: No, and we should adopt an open border policy S



Should immigrants be deported if they commit a serious crime? stats discuss

John Kasich has not answered this question yet. Would you like to suggest their answer?

Hillary Clinton?s answer: Yes S



Should sanctuary cities receive federal funding? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No, and we should ban the use of sanctuary cities S

Hillary Clinton?s answer: Yes S



Should illegal immigrants be offered in-state tuition rates at public colleges within their residing state? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No S

Hillary Clinton?s answer: Yes, and they should also be eligible for financial assistance and scholarships S



Should illegal immigrants have access to government-subsidized healthcare? stats discuss

John Kasich has not answered this question yet. Would you like to suggest their answer?

Hillary Clinton?s answer: Yes, and grant them citizenship S



Should children of illegal immigrants be granted legal citizenship? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No S

Hillary Clinton?s answer: Yes, and abolish all national borders S



Should there be a temporary ban on all immigration into the country? stats discuss

John Kasich has not answered this question yet. Would you like to suggest their answer?

Hillary Clinton has not answered this question yet. Would you like to suggest their answer?



Should local law enforcement be allowed to detain illegal immigrants for minor crimes and transfer them to federal immigration authorities? stats discuss

John Kasich?s answer: No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime

Hillary Clinton?s answer: No, only if they are convicted of a violent crime

Didn't Trump promise you he'd deport them?

Now amnesty? I'm confused. it's like he lied or something? ya think?












Stay Thirsty My Friends

LAST EDITED ON Sep-13-17 AT 10:11AM (MST)[p]RELH,

He never said anything about those convicted of nonviolent felonies. Read the entire thing and show me where he even address non violent convicted felons? They didn't ask that specific question.

That spin was added by FoxNews and Breitbart. Show me the Washington Post Article.

Nemont

Search it yourself, it is there. You got all the time in the world to search it between waiting on your baby boomer clients.

RELH

>Search it yourself, it is there.
>You got all the time
>in the world to search
>it between waiting on your
>baby boomer clients.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>RELH

ain't that the truth

National Security and Public Safety Guidelines

You will not be considered for DACA if you have been convicted of:

A felony offense;
A significant misdemeanor offense; or
Three or more other misdemeanor offenses not occurring on the same date and not arising out of the same act, omission, or scheme of misconduct.

Or

You are otherwise deemed to pose a threat to national security or public safety.

Felony: A felony is a federal, state or local criminal offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

Significant Misdemeanor: A significant misdemeanor is a misdemeanor as defined by federal law (specifically, one for which the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is one year or less but greater than five days) and:

Regardless of the sentence imposed, is an offense of domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or, driving under the influence; or,

If not an offense listed above, is one for which the individual was sentenced to time in custody of more than 90 days. The sentence must involve time to be served in custody, and therefore does not include a suspended sentence.

A crime is considered a non-significant misdemeanor (maximum term of imprisonment is one year or less but greater than five days) if it:

Non-significant misdemeanor: Is not an offense of domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or, driving under the influence; and is one for which the individual was sentenced to time in custody of 90 days or less.

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/consideration-deferred-action-childhood-arrivals-daca#guidelines

Hillz and Kasich simply agreed on the guidelines that already existed for DACA which cover all of RELH's parroting of disinformation from Fox.

What I find to be hilarious is RELH & Co. would hold any candidate's quote to the cross as a Trump Supporter.

Before the election Trump stated,

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters."

What does that quote tell you about Trump voters?

it isn't there, he never stated that convicted felons should remain in the U.S. He never made a distinction between violent and none violent convicts. That spin was put in by FoxNews and Breitbart to get the easily fooled to vote for Trump. I guess it is proof that fake news works on people.

Nemont

It was the Washington Times not Washington Post that printed the article when Kasich met with a Hispanic group. Of course the liberal times said it in a more political correct version that only non violent illegals be allowed to stay and have a path to citizenship.

RELH

This is why I am against granting blanket citizenship to all the illegal immigrants in the U.S. This information from the GAO is from 1995 and would be even worse today.

RELH
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Pursuant to a legislative mandate, GAO provided information on the extent to which means-tested public benefits are provided to illegal aliens for the use of eligible individuals, focusing on: (1) the extent and the locations that selected federal means-tested benefits are being provided to illegal aliens for use by their U.S. citizen children; and (2) the nature and extent of fraud or misrepresentation detected in connection with these benefits.

GAO noted that: (1) in fiscal year (FY) 1995, about $1.1 billion in Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) and Food Stamp benefits were provided to households with an illegal alien parent for the use of his or her citizen child; (2) this amount accounted for about 3 percent of AFDC and 2 percent of Food Stamp benefit costs; (3) a vast majority of households receiving these benefits resided in a few states--85 percent of the AFDC households were in California, New York, Texas, and Arizona; (4) 81 percent of Food Stamp households were in California, Texas, and Arizona; (5) California households alone accounted for $720 million of the combined AFDC and Food Stamp caseloads; (6) although illegal aliens also received Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Department of Housing and Urban Development housing assistance for their citizen children, data to develop estimates for these two programs were not available; (7) comprehensive national statistics on any misrepresentation or fraud perpetrated by illegal aliens receiving benefits on behalf of their citizen children are not available; (8) a few California counties' studies of AFDC households indicate that the rates and types of potential misrepresentation or fraud are similar both for households headed by illegal aliens and for the general welfare population; (9) in these studies, one of the most commonly cited types of misrepresentation or fraud was the underreporting of income; (10) income is a key factor in determining program eligibility and benefit amounts and, when underreported, can result in overpayment of benefits; and (11) the states visited by GAO had procedures in place to verify income, but officials said that verifying individuals' income from earnings obtained through the underground economy was very difficult--for both illegal aliens and for citizens--in part because these earnings are not documented or reported to state or federal databases used to verify employment or earnings.

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Cashing in: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families, $5,692 vs. $4,431

by Paul Bedard | May 9, 2016, 6:30 AM 

Illegal immigrant households receive an average of $5,692 in federal welfare benefits every year, far more than the average "native" American household, at $4,431, according to a new report on the cost of immigration released Monday.

The Center for Immigration Studies, in an analysis of federal cost figures, found that all immigrant-headed households ? legal and illegal ? receive an average of $6,241 in welfare, 41 percent more than native households. As with Americans receiving benefits such as food stamps and cash, much of the welfare to immigrants supplements their low wage jobs.


The total cost is over $103 billion in welfare benefits to households headed by immigrants. A majority, 51 percent, of immigrant households receive some type of welfare compared to 30 percent of native households, said the analysis of Census data.

Immigrants receiving the most in the study of 2012 figures come from Mexico and Central America. Their average annual taxpayer funded welfare collection is $8,251, 86 percent higher than the benefits used by native households, said the report.



"While it is important for Americans to understand the rate of welfare use among immigrants, expressing that use in dollar terms offers a more tangible metric that is tied to current debates over fiscal policy. With the nation facing a long-term budgetary deficit, this study helps illuminate immigration's impact on the problem," wrote the report's author Jason Richwine, a Harvard educated analyst of immigration data.

The new report follows another that found President Obama seeking $17,613 for every new illegal minor, more than Social Security retirees get.


Richwine noted that illegal immigrants are barred from directly receiving welfare, but instead get it via their legal children. "Illegal immigrants are barred from directly accessing most (though not all) welfare programs, but they can receive welfare through their U.S.-born children. Legal immigrant households, which have greater eligibility for welfare, cost $6,378 on average," he wrote.

The key findings:

? The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.


? The average immigrant household consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, and 44 percent more Medicaid dollars than the average native household. Housing costs are about the same for both groups.

? At $8,251, households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico have the highest welfare costs of any sending region ? 86 percent higher than the costs of native households.

? Illegal immigrant households cost an average of $5,692 (driven largely by the presence of U.S.-born children), while legal immigrant households cost $6,378.

? The greater consumption of welfare dollars by immigrants can be explained in large part by their lower level of education and larger number of children compared to natives. Over 24 percent of immigrant households are headed by a high school dropout, compared to just 8 percent of native households. In addition, 13 percent of immigrant households have three or more children, vs. just 6 percent of native households.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.