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LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-17 AT 09:27PM (MST)[p]Oh sorry for having a life, I was in San Diego playing golf this weekend.
Unlike Hastert there is not much to say..yet. Has he admitted guilt? No. Has there been a trial? No.
It's alleged that Trump has sex with a 13 year old girl. We also know that Trump settled with 6,000 ex Trump University students for Fraud and Elder Abuse. Add 3,500 other lawsuits and you have a chit ton of allegations...
Yet you ladies just can't get enough of his tiny fingers tickling you. So that being said, using your metric of outrage until this matter has some official legal outcome why should I care.
Like Trump, until there is some official sentence of guilt the guy must be innocent, right?
Unlike Hastert there is not much to say..yet. Has he admitted guilt? No. Has there been a trial? No.
It's alleged that Trump has sex with a 13 year old girl. We also know that Trump settled with 6,000 ex Trump University students for Fraud and Elder Abuse. Add 3,500 other lawsuits and you have a chit ton of allegations...
Yet you ladies just can't get enough of his tiny fingers tickling you. So that being said, using your metric of outrage until this matter has some official legal outcome why should I care.
Like Trump, until there is some official sentence of guilt the guy must be innocent, right?
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FTW just proved my point. If they have a "D" in front of their name. FTW will defend them to the very end. No matter what they may have done. Bona fide bent wrist liberal troll to the core. Hopefully FTW will move from Boise, Idaho to Seattle where he can rub elbows with his kind.
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I am only using your metric to apply guilt RELH. You appear to suffer from many things so I guess we can add transference to the list.
It has been alleged that Donald Trump is a pedophile. So RELH Is Donald Trump a pedophile? Did you vote for a pedophile?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_us_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834
It has been alleged that Donald Trump is a pedophile. So RELH Is Donald Trump a pedophile? Did you vote for a pedophile?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_us_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834
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First time for me to hear that. Why had not the medial posted more about it. Is it because they do not feel the allegations may not have enough creditability?
The allegations on the Seattle mayor was far more compelling. Compelling to the point that he resigned his position.
Come back FTW when you have more factual evidence to support your opinion. Until then consider moving to Seattle as you will find more neighbors with your bent for being a bent wrist liberal. Heck you would even get over your fear of talking politics to your neighbors because they will be just like you and not conservative.
RELH
The allegations on the Seattle mayor was far more compelling. Compelling to the point that he resigned his position.
Come back FTW when you have more factual evidence to support your opinion. Until then consider moving to Seattle as you will find more neighbors with your bent for being a bent wrist liberal. Heck you would even get over your fear of talking politics to your neighbors because they will be just like you and not conservative.
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-17 AT 01:18AM (MST)[p]"far more compelling" Really?
Then by your own logic we can safely say that Trump is guilty of Discrimination, Fraud, Elder Abuse, Money Laundering, Rape, and Sexual Assault.
Unlike the former Speaker of the House (R) Hastert who plead guilty, admitted to molesting children, so far all we have are allegations and a resignation.
If you want me to say this guy is a sexual deviant low life predator I'll be happy to do that...but not until he either admits to it, it is proven in a court of law or he pleads guilty.
Outside of that I read somewhere that Americans are considered innocent until proven guilty. We all know how much you love Russia and China, but this is still the United States and people here do have certain rights.
Then by your own logic we can safely say that Trump is guilty of Discrimination, Fraud, Elder Abuse, Money Laundering, Rape, and Sexual Assault.
Unlike the former Speaker of the House (R) Hastert who plead guilty, admitted to molesting children, so far all we have are allegations and a resignation.
If you want me to say this guy is a sexual deviant low life predator I'll be happy to do that...but not until he either admits to it, it is proven in a court of law or he pleads guilty.
Outside of that I read somewhere that Americans are considered innocent until proven guilty. We all know how much you love Russia and China, but this is still the United States and people here do have certain rights.
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FTW said:
Outside of that I read somewhere that Americans are considered innocent until proven guilty. We all know how much you love Russia and China, but this is still the United States and people here do have certain rights.
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Looks like you only use the constitution when it is agreeable to your agenda. I have not admitted to loving Russia or China, in fact I do not like or trust their government, and have not been accused and convicted in a court of law of being their agent. You are applying your DOUBLE STANDARD AGAIN. We expect no less from a devout bent wrist liberal like you.
Nemont may defend you, but do you really think he would like to have you and others like you moving to Montana and screwing up his state like you did California.
RELH
Outside of that I read somewhere that Americans are considered innocent until proven guilty. We all know how much you love Russia and China, but this is still the United States and people here do have certain rights.
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Looks like you only use the constitution when it is agreeable to your agenda. I have not admitted to loving Russia or China, in fact I do not like or trust their government, and have not been accused and convicted in a court of law of being their agent. You are applying your DOUBLE STANDARD AGAIN. We expect no less from a devout bent wrist liberal like you.
Nemont may defend you, but do you really think he would like to have you and others like you moving to Montana and screwing up his state like you did California.
RELH
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RELH,
Two things
-you are using the same double standard you are accusing FTW of using.
-Californians are moving here already and have screwed up almost everything they touched. I had to laugh when one of you peeps moved here and demanded the feedlot next to their property make the calves quit bawling when they were weaned. That is typical Californians for you.
I can't seem to get it through to you Californians that you should fix your own state first before you screw up others but you guys don't get the message.
Nemont
Two things
-you are using the same double standard you are accusing FTW of using.
-Californians are moving here already and have screwed up almost everything they touched. I had to laugh when one of you peeps moved here and demanded the feedlot next to their property make the calves quit bawling when they were weaned. That is typical Californians for you.
I can't seem to get it through to you Californians that you should fix your own state first before you screw up others but you guys don't get the message.
Nemont
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Nemont we are fixing our state here in the Northern counties. Our bay area libs move here in retirement and found they are not wanted or liked. As a result most move out within 2-3 years for greener pastures.
Those greener pastures are in the other states like yours. We will continue to move all the liberals out that we can and I hope you like the result as you are going to get some of them.
So be nice to them as they are of the same stripe as FTW that you choose to defend. You can be buddies.
RELH
Those greener pastures are in the other states like yours. We will continue to move all the liberals out that we can and I hope you like the result as you are going to get some of them.
So be nice to them as they are of the same stripe as FTW that you choose to defend. You can be buddies.
RELH
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RELH,
I said fix your state, I don't know that your county matters if your state remains a Sanctuary state, continues to be the incubator for every left wing stupid idea and the main exporter of liberal ideology.
The Californians who come here to North East Montana only last 18 months. That encompasses two winters and by then they high tail out of here. That is the reason we have no homeless people here either. If the cold don't get you the mosquitoes will.
Not sure I defended anyone but it's your story, make it as inaccurate as you want.
Nemont
I said fix your state, I don't know that your county matters if your state remains a Sanctuary state, continues to be the incubator for every left wing stupid idea and the main exporter of liberal ideology.
The Californians who come here to North East Montana only last 18 months. That encompasses two winters and by then they high tail out of here. That is the reason we have no homeless people here either. If the cold don't get you the mosquitoes will.
Not sure I defended anyone but it's your story, make it as inaccurate as you want.
Nemont
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-17 AT 08:00PM (MST)[p]"Nemont we are fixing our state here in the Northern counties."
More fake news and lies from RELH.
The coastal cities from San Diego-S.F. and due east along the I-80 corridor have always supported the rest of the state especially the giant money drain of Norcal counties.
Over the last decade even weed is no longer some great savior for Norcal given indoor grows and how many states are either legal or medical.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2010/06/20/report-bay-area-counties-give-so-rural-counties-can-receive/
Blue counties produce revenue and red counties suck it away. Red counties luv dem sum of dat gubberment money alright.
RELH will complain all day long about those liberal revenue generating blue counties while his county fights for first place in line for it's handouts.
Oh please do educate us all on exactly what Norcal counties are doing/have done to fix and for once contribute to the state revenue stream instead of always taking from it?
Complain and take is all you do.
More fake news and lies from RELH.
The coastal cities from San Diego-S.F. and due east along the I-80 corridor have always supported the rest of the state especially the giant money drain of Norcal counties.
Over the last decade even weed is no longer some great savior for Norcal given indoor grows and how many states are either legal or medical.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2010/06/20/report-bay-area-counties-give-so-rural-counties-can-receive/
Blue counties produce revenue and red counties suck it away. Red counties luv dem sum of dat gubberment money alright.
RELH will complain all day long about those liberal revenue generating blue counties while his county fights for first place in line for it's handouts.
Oh please do educate us all on exactly what Norcal counties are doing/have done to fix and for once contribute to the state revenue stream instead of always taking from it?
Complain and take is all you do.
RELH
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-17 AT 11:46PM (MST)[p]FTW if we are ever able to make N.CA. into the 51st. state, those blue counties will be crying the blues when they have to pay a fair price for the water we send them from our lakes that have the dams to hold the water so the liberals in those blue counties can water their lawn and golf courses and swimming pools.
Those blue counties you like to hold up have a very high population of welfare and illegal aliens in our state and they keep voting in those liberal politicians that pander to them.
RELH
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When Gov. Jerry Brown and the Legislature overhauled the state?s welfare program last month, some people learned a jarring fact for the first time: California has one-third of the nation?s welfare recipients.
That California has a lot of people on welfare was not a secret. In addition to its size, the state has a long history of heavy focus on social services, in part because of years of Democratic dominance in Sacramento.
But the size of California?s welfare rolls is disproportionate when you consider the state has only 12 percent of the nation?s population. Some of it has to do with the benefits being more generous than in many other states, but experts also point to various economic and social factors.
There?s more to support the notion that this is the welfare state. California:
? Pays out one of the highest maximum monthly cash grants to the average family on welfare, $638.
? Continues aid for children even when the parents lose eligibility.
? Provides benefits even to some who find a job and helps with child care and transportation while attending school or training.
On the flip side, California is not the land of endless ?Cadillac? benefits:
? The actual average cash grant for the typical family of three is $463.
? Welfare payments have been cut twice since 2009 while 18 states have provided nominal increases.
? The high cost of housing eats up more of the aid than in other states with smaller grants.
People in California will start moving off welfare more quickly due to changes made by the governor and lawmakers, even though their primary goal was to save money and help chip away at a huge budget deficit. They imposed a shorter benefit period, but avoided making cuts in grants in the state?s $6.7 billion welfare-to-work program, called CalWORKS. (Federal taxpayers do pick up $3.7 billion of the tab.)
California by far spends more than any other state on welfare. But broken down on a per-capita basis, the story is a little different.
That overall figure amounts to $179 annually for every man, woman and child in California. That trails New York ($256) and Hawaii ($233). Two large states among the lowest in per capita spending are Texas ($32) and Florida ($44). The national average is $99.
The figures for the states do not include other support, such as food stamps, known as CalFresh in California, or Medicaid, known as Medi-Cal in California.
The amount California spends and the level of its benefits have been central to the long-running debate over why so many people here are on welfare.
Those blue counties you like to hold up have a very high population of welfare and illegal aliens in our state and they keep voting in those liberal politicians that pander to them.
RELH
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When Gov. Jerry Brown and the Legislature overhauled the state?s welfare program last month, some people learned a jarring fact for the first time: California has one-third of the nation?s welfare recipients.
That California has a lot of people on welfare was not a secret. In addition to its size, the state has a long history of heavy focus on social services, in part because of years of Democratic dominance in Sacramento.
But the size of California?s welfare rolls is disproportionate when you consider the state has only 12 percent of the nation?s population. Some of it has to do with the benefits being more generous than in many other states, but experts also point to various economic and social factors.
There?s more to support the notion that this is the welfare state. California:
? Pays out one of the highest maximum monthly cash grants to the average family on welfare, $638.
? Continues aid for children even when the parents lose eligibility.
? Provides benefits even to some who find a job and helps with child care and transportation while attending school or training.
On the flip side, California is not the land of endless ?Cadillac? benefits:
? The actual average cash grant for the typical family of three is $463.
? Welfare payments have been cut twice since 2009 while 18 states have provided nominal increases.
? The high cost of housing eats up more of the aid than in other states with smaller grants.
People in California will start moving off welfare more quickly due to changes made by the governor and lawmakers, even though their primary goal was to save money and help chip away at a huge budget deficit. They imposed a shorter benefit period, but avoided making cuts in grants in the state?s $6.7 billion welfare-to-work program, called CalWORKS. (Federal taxpayers do pick up $3.7 billion of the tab.)
California by far spends more than any other state on welfare. But broken down on a per-capita basis, the story is a little different.
That overall figure amounts to $179 annually for every man, woman and child in California. That trails New York ($256) and Hawaii ($233). Two large states among the lowest in per capita spending are Texas ($32) and Florida ($44). The national average is $99.
The figures for the states do not include other support, such as food stamps, known as CalFresh in California, or Medicaid, known as Medi-Cal in California.
The amount California spends and the level of its benefits have been central to the long-running debate over why so many people here are on welfare.
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-20-17 AT 01:44AM (MST)[p]That's your list huh? Impressive. Since you are pipe dreaming of becoming the 51st state you should also start wishing that you could crap out tiny gold bars too. Which do you think will happen first?
"Nemont we are fixing our state here in the Northern counties."
Once again you speak and yet still say nothing. Who cares if your claims are not true?
Here is the reality of your precious "Northern Counties".
http://www.lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3531/5
So while you wait for the 1st of the month to roll around to get your socialist benefits you can boast how your state sucks up 33% of all welfare claims nationally. And..of all those Cali welfare recipients your Northern Counties suck up the most! #winning
Please tell us how more about all the evil liberals that are ruining the world again.
In the last 10 years while living out of state I have paid $80K in Cali property taxes. After I sold my company to a competitor State Fund got to keep $1.3 million of my non-refundable dollars after 25 years of 0 claims. So don't whine to me about how I ruined California. It's my money that supports your neighbors and businesses.
I'll bet you are also a pre-Prop 13er and probably paying less than $200.00 a year for property tax? Face it RELH, you and your county are takers not a makers when it comes to revenue for your state and country. Your hypocrisy is shameless.
"Nemont we are fixing our state here in the Northern counties."
Once again you speak and yet still say nothing. Who cares if your claims are not true?
Here is the reality of your precious "Northern Counties".
http://www.lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3531/5
So while you wait for the 1st of the month to roll around to get your socialist benefits you can boast how your state sucks up 33% of all welfare claims nationally. And..of all those Cali welfare recipients your Northern Counties suck up the most! #winning
Please tell us how more about all the evil liberals that are ruining the world again.
In the last 10 years while living out of state I have paid $80K in Cali property taxes. After I sold my company to a competitor State Fund got to keep $1.3 million of my non-refundable dollars after 25 years of 0 claims. So don't whine to me about how I ruined California. It's my money that supports your neighbors and businesses.
I'll bet you are also a pre-Prop 13er and probably paying less than $200.00 a year for property tax? Face it RELH, you and your county are takers not a makers when it comes to revenue for your state and country. Your hypocrisy is shameless.
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FTW for your information you are a piker on the taxes you pay. Wife and I got you beat by a far margin. You helped to ruin this state by voting liberal Democrat when you lived here and it was those same liberal democrats that jacked up the taxes and just finished doing it again.
If CA. was so great under those Democrats WHY DID YOU BAIL OUT FOR IDAHO INSTEAD OF STAYING IN THIS GREAT STATE BEING RUNNED BY LIBERAL DEMOCRATS?
RELH
P.S. No we are not pre-prop 13 and on the ranch property we pay an additional 7 thousand per year to the reclamation district over and beyond the regular taxes for levee maintance that rarely happens.
If CA. was so great under those Democrats WHY DID YOU BAIL OUT FOR IDAHO INSTEAD OF STAYING IN THIS GREAT STATE BEING RUNNED BY LIBERAL DEMOCRATS?
RELH
P.S. No we are not pre-prop 13 and on the ranch property we pay an additional 7 thousand per year to the reclamation district over and beyond the regular taxes for levee maintance that rarely happens.
