BUNDY MIGHT WALK!!!

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....wonder where to??
 
Can you spell GOV overreach and stupidity? Dumb (Bundy) and Dumber Gov't Prosecutors.)
 
'You can't have people show up with automatic weapons and defy federal officers.'"

No wonder the government can't make the charges stick.

Homer, probably out to his truck.

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> No!
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>I'm not saying He's Right!
>
>But He made a Stand!
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and welfare collecting baby mama's in ghettos through out the United States will be celebrating the freeloading Bundy's victory over the Gubment along side the great Conservatives of MonsterMuleys.
 
Kinda quiet on here today from those two Bessie. I have the day off so I can look at this every now and then. I was hoping for some entertainment from the rocket scientist. Maybe TOG is out looking for a Bannon voodoo doll.
 
I don't think any of us want to live in a Country where judges allow prosecutors to willfully ignore rules of discovery. The system worked and the Judge didn't let politics play into it, or allow the prosecutors to deny the Bundy Bunch their rights. Bundy's are pretty much full of it when it comes to an all powerful government.



Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-08-18 AT 03:47PM (MST)[p]Nemont is right about our system working due to a judge taking a dim view of the prosecution failing to adhere to the laws involving "motion of discovery".
If that law is ignored, then you will see innocent people being convicted of a crime they did not commit.
Yes it gives the defense an edge over the district attorney's office and sometimes it will help a guilty person to get off. I would prefer to see a guilty person getting off then having a innocent person found guilty.

RELH
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The Bundy case finally went to trial last October. But just two months later, it ended with Navarro angry, the feds humiliated and Bundy ? at least to his supporters ? vindicated.

Navarro had suspended the trial earlier and warned of a mistrial when prosecutors released information after a discovery deadline. Overall, the government was late in handing over more than 3,300 pages of documents. Further, some defense requests for information that ultimately came to light had been ridiculed by prosecutors as ?fantastical? and a ?fishing expedition.?

?Either the government lied or [its actions were] so grossly negligent as to be tantamount to lying,? Napolitano said. ?This happened over and over again.?

Navarro said Monday it was clear the FBI was involved in the prosecution and it was not a coincidence that most of the evidence that was held back ? which would have worked in Bundy?s favor ? came from the FBI, AZCentral reported.

The newspaper said after the courtroom doors opened following Navarro?s ruling, a huge cheer went up from a crowd of spectators that had gathered outside.
 
I'm not celebrating either, but I'm
LMFAO at the stupid people holding back evidence. How much do us taxpayers pay these morons?
 
Did you notice it seemed to be the FBI again involved in violations of rights.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-08-18 AT 07:04PM (MST)[p]Oh yes, and is this Obama's FBI? Pathetic.
 
>Yes, all this took place while
>the previous administration was in
>office.
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> RELH

Alternative Facts again huh RELH

"Trouble with the case was evident from the start, and Myhre lost a last-minute bid for a postponement. Proceedings were interrupted several times for closed-door hearings and sealed document filings before Navarro declared a mistrial Dec. 20.

The judge signaled she might dismiss the case outright and severely criticized prosecutors for "willful" violations of constitutional due process, including failing to turn over some evidence to defense teams."

Myhre Assistant U.S. Attorney in charge of the case was a Trump appointee in March 2017 but hey don't let alternative facts get in the way of the truth.

Orange liars are my favorite color of liar. What color are you?
 
They should have Lavoy'ed them all when they had just cause. now every traitor in the nation thinks they can get away with taking aim on law enforcement as long as they wear Rambo camo or wear a drugstore cowboy hat.

They need to hang the incompetent hacks who blew an easy case and dump them in the ditch for the ravens.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
"Kieran Suckling, an official with the Center for Biological Diversity, which fought for decades to protect endangered desert tortoises on rangeland where Bundy cows graze,..."

Cornhusker,Maybe you should join if you haven't already.

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Cornhusker the events and investigation by the FBI took place under Obama. It was the FBI that failed to turn over information to the prosecution that would aid the Bundy defense. The prosecutor failed to demand those reports from the FBI and submit them to the defense to comply with the "Motion of discovery".
It seems the FBI under Obama and Loretta Lynch were very good about throwing out the Constitution on their investigations. Another smear on your hero that you voted twice for and will end up in history as the worse president.

RELH
 
Ha ha ha ! it's always Obama's fault. unless it's Clinton's!


Trump had 10 months to correct Obama's mistake. you'd think a genius would have been able to do that . you're such a tool.












Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-18 AT 01:28PM (MST)[p]Trump might have corrected a lot more of Obama's screw ups if the Democrats would quit playing their dirty political games. Face it, the Democrats do not want Trump to succeed, even if it costs the American public.

RELH

Dude here is an example of how Democrats are throwing roadblocks up on Trump's goals.
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Five years ago, the entire Senate Democratic caucus voted for hundreds of miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border.


How times have changed.

Democrats are now blasting President Trump's border wall demands as ?ineffective? and ?unreasonable,? as they battle his initial $18 billion request.

And Republicans, along with other border-security advocates, are countering by accusing Democrats of flipping their position now that Trump is president.

?What we're seeing right now is the height of hypocrisy from the Democrats, when the Democrats in 2013 wanted the immigration reform,? President of the National Border Patrol Council Brandon Judd said Tuesday on ?Fox & Friends First.? ?The only thing that's changed is we now have Trump sitting in the White House instead of Obama in the White House and all of a sudden they're against it.?
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-18 AT 02:50PM (MST)[p]Could it be that Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall? He sort of gifted that issue to them by his stupid insistence that Mexico would pay for it, 100%, not American Tax payers.


Why wouldn't they want to hold Trump to his word? He spelled it out over and over that Mexico was going to pay for it not the American taxpayers. Or have you forgotten already what he said when he ran?


Nemont
 
Don't prosecutors live and die achieve or fail on their conviction rates? They are the ones responsible for winning a conviction granted they need law enforcement help (I'm sure you were every D.A.'s dream with properly obtained evidence) and who knows if the FBI did a good or failed job. The point is the US Assistant District Attorney appointed by The Orange Stain was responsible for the conviction of the Bundy's he failed.

I realize ex-cops don't know a whole lot about winning so let me explain it to you. As a coach you can possibly have a bad season or two and keep your job. String a few losing seasons together and you're fired, excuses don't really matter. If you want to keep your job it's simple WIN the same thing for Trump's ADA appointee he failed to win.

When will the Trump winning begin? Top 10 Promises of the 100's he made IMO

1." I will repeal Obamacare immediately and you will all have cheaper better health insurance." Failed.

2. I will build a wall a big beautiful wall and Mexico will pay for it. " Failed.

3. " I will suspend immigration immediately from Muslim terrorist countries and deport 11 million illegal aliens. Failed the number of deportations actually down from Obama presidency.

4. " I will cut taxes for everyone. " partial success, certainly for the wealthy and at the cost of increasing the deficit.

5. " I will lower the business tax rate. " Success.

6. I will grow the GDP by at least 4% and I think 5-6% is likely." Failed.

7. " I will bring back manufacturing to the U.S. ." Some success.

8. " I will expand the CCL to all 50 states." Failed dead in the Senate.

9. "I will get rid of the carried interest loophole which favors people like me." Failed but not really attempted.

10. " I will rewrite the tax code to allow for working parents to deduct their child care expenses for up to 4 children and elderly care expenses as well. " Failed.

One win and two partials out of ten may look like winning to a retired cop but it doesn't look like much winning to me and it doesn't to most people as witnessed by 36% approval rating. You could also include that he will get a better deal for U.S. in NAFTA due to happen this month. Would you like to bet on the U.S. getting a better NAFTA deal? A win I might also give him was the replace of Scalia but we'll see how you whine like a little girl when the democrats use the same strategy on the republicans which is just a matter of time until it happens.

On the topic of this thread the Bundy's they should have hung them and it was a poorly prepared ADA appointed by Dotard who lost this case.
 
Myself? I'm still waiting for my $2500 savings on my health insurance coverage
Oh, and I get to keep my same doctor. How we forget Nemont. But I understand you wanted to be part of history.
 
YBO,

I guess if you lie enough it becomes your truth. I didn't support the ACA, it has been a miserable experience for me and my office staff and I work my @ss off to keep up with it. My career was just fine with out, but you have as much interest in facts as your talking Yam you love does.


So you admit that Trump and Obama are both liars, I am good with that. So is Mexico going to pay for the wall or will it end up like your mythical $2,500?

Nemont
 
My point exactly Nemont
. They all lie to advance their agenda. One thing about Trump it hasn't cost anything...yet. My bet is he'll partially pay for it by cutting off that yearly check to Mexico. Listen I know plenty of Doctors who were buddy as hell when Obama care past. Now, they are like you battling a white elephant. But again I never voted for the half white president.
 
I never voted for him either, didn't support the ACA, and don't support Trump borrowing and spending in a growing economy.

Mexico is never going to pay for diddly and no where in world history has a wall worked.

Nemont
 
Seems its helped the President of Cal Bezerkley at his resident. Did the wall work for many years between east and west Germany. Hmmmm?
 
Did the invading hordes really stay out of China?

Quote:
Although a useful deterrent against raids, at several points throughout its history the Great Wall failed to stop enemies, including in 1644 when the Manchu Qing marched through the gates of Shanhai Pass and replaced the most ardent of the wall-building dynasties, the Ming, as rulers of China.

The Berlin wall didn't stop people as much as the militarized border did. What happened to the Berlin Wall today? I was there when it was coming down and have several pieces of it.

Are you Trumpteers suggesting that a wall between Mexico and the U.S. is going to slow down illegals into this country? Highly doubtful.


Sure the Vatican but if the Country of Italy was not 97% Catholic and instead hostile to the Vatican, do you really believe Vatican City would still exist?

http://www.businessinsider.com/bord...story-teaches-us-that-walls-dont-work-2017-10

Quote:
-Large-scale walls certainly act as monumental markers, highlighting on the landscape where cultures have clashed. But our work and that of colleagues around the globe suggests ? despite what politicians might have us believe ? that walls are no deterrent.


Quote:
-There are no simple answers. But if American taxpayers are going to pay for the approximately US$25 billion wall ? and with the current prototypes going up, it appears that money will indeed be spent ? it's perhaps worth a more considered discussion.

Will a wall check movement in North America? Or will it simply create a temporary illusion of deterrence, while destroying both historic sites and the lives of people living in the present?
 
As long as you and Cliven are willing to throw out the Constitution then you and he are correct. Your hero is using English Common Law for that idea same England that we went to war with in order to be free.

Why don't you and Clive believe in buying private land and not stealing grazing? Why is you believe in Cliven?

Nemont
 
Elk,

You realize your support of Bundy and his notion of the county Sheriff is not rooted anywhere in our constitution but arose from and gets it's support from the White Supremacist movement. The idea that ignorant thieves would be viewed as heroes by people like you is to be expected but why do you support using county Sheriff's the same way the king of England did? Doesn't the Constitution mean anything to you?

Quote:
The constitutional sheriff movement, according to the teachings of Mack and his supporters, is rooted in the historical definition of sheriffs as the most powerful law-enforcement officers within their counties. The idea harkens to medieval England, when Anglo-Saxon kings tasked sheriffs with enforcing their edicts. English colonists brought the tradition to the Americas, and began electing their own sheriffs in the mid-1600s, entrusting them with overseeing the judicial process, carrying out legal decisions, and keeping the peace. Under the latter authority, they could organize citizen brigades to catch outlaws or defend against attackers, an arrangement known as ?posse comitatus.?

In the 1970s, a minister in the white supremacist Christian Identity movement, William Potter Gale, wrote a series of articles that would come to be known as the handbook of the Posse Comitatus movement. Gale described sheriffs as the only ?legal? law enforcement officers in the country and urged citizens to form their own militias to resist encroachments on their rights if sheriffs did not. The constitutional abuses he cited included the federal income tax system, gun control, federal education, and civil rights laws.
 
Hey NeMont!


You and a couple others said He'd never get out of Jail!

"BY GAWD THIS IS OREGON" BFD!

"BY GAWD THIS IS NEVADA" BFD!

I Never said Cliven was Right!

But Your Government sure the F##K is Wrong!

Nobody has ever Answered My original Question!

Not even the Smartest SOB in Montana has ever Answered it!
 
> Hey NeMont!
>
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>You and a couple others said
>He'd never get out of
>Jail!
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>"BY GAWD THIS IS OREGON" BFD!
>
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>"BY GAWD THIS IS NEVADA" BFD!
>
>
>I Never said Cliven was Right!
>
>
>But Your Government sure the F##K
>is Wrong!
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>Nobody has ever Answered My original
>Question!
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>Not even the Smartest SOB in
>Montana has ever Answered it!
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LMFAOF !!!!!
 
I see so you are not part of America because of you were it would be your government as well.

Figured you for a traitor. You, Stoney and Lavoy are all cut from the same treasonous cloth.

Nemont
 
As for you original question, why the government didn't do anything before? Because they knew guys like you would use them as heroes if they kicked down the door and took them into custody. They knew what kind of cowards they were because they were willing to put women and children out as human shield. If one innocent died you wouldn't have cared but if one of the coconspirators got shot you would be whining about it for the rest of your life.

Now answer why you believe Cliven is such a hero for stealing from my fellow American citizens for years, ignoring the laws and refusing to be man enough to buy private property if he didn't want to use public lands? You are the one claiming he did a great thing by sticking it to the government and getting away with it. Back up your hero worship.

Bundy has taken more from the Federal treasury then any welfare queen but why do you believe he is right? Don't tell me you aren't loving Bundy and his band of free loaders taking with both hands. I know you a boomer and believe taking with both hands is a right but isn't there any limits?

Nemont
 
Bundy is free for the same reason OJ went free. an incompetent prosecution .

Leave it to the mouthbreathers to see this as evidence either are innocent. at least OJ had a phuked up Trial and won, all these traitors did was stand around with their thumbs in their azz while the feds screwed the case up.


The old loser is still on the hook for what started this whole thing in the first place. hopefully they don't phuk that case up too.









Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>As for you original question, why
>the government didn't do anything
>before? Because they knew
>guys like you would use
>them as heroes if they
>kicked down the door and
>took them into custody.
>They knew what kind of
>cowards they were because they
>were willing to put women
>and children out as human
>shield. If one innocent
>died you wouldn't have cared
>but if one of the
>coconspirators got shot you would
>be whining about it for
>the rest of your life.
>
>
>Now answer why you believe Cliven
>is such a hero for
>stealing from my fellow American
>citizens for years, ignoring the
>laws and refusing to be
>man enough to buy private
>property if he didn't want
>to use public lands?
> You are the one
>claiming he did a great
>thing by sticking it to
>the government and getting away
>with it. Back up
>your hero worship.
>
>Bundy has taken more from the
>Federal treasury then any welfare
>queen but why do you
>believe he is right?
> Don't tell me you
>aren't loving Bundy and his
>band of free loaders taking
>with both hands. I
>know you a boomer and
>believe taking with both hands
>is a right but isn't
>there any limits?
>
>Nemont

You're Still Dodging the Same Original Question that You Can't Answer!

So?

In your F'N Pea Brain,Laws only Apply to Certain People?

What a F'N Joke you are!
 
I answered it, guys like you tie the hands of the Government because you would have held up Cliven as a hero like you do Lavoy. You don't give a fly phuk about upholding the law and you cheer when known law breakers walk free. The government screwed the pooch on the prosecution but it is guys who act like you who keep Cliven dream of a white America ruled by the local sheriff alive and kicking.

It isn't a mystery. Like I said you, Cliven and Lavoy are all cut from the same treasonous cloth. You want freedom but don't want to have to pay for the land on which you practice your freedom. None of you clowns believe in the free market.

Nemont
 
>I answered it, guys like you
>tie the hands of the
>Government because you would have
>held up Cliven as a
>hero like you do Lavoy.
> You don't give a
>fly phuk about upholding the
>law and you cheer when
>known law breakers walk free.
> The government screwed
>the pooch on the prosecution
>but it is guys who
>act like you who keep
>Cliven dream of a white
>America ruled by the local
>sheriff alive and kicking.
>
>It isn't a mystery.
>Like I said you, Cliven
>and Lavoy are all cut
>from the same treasonous cloth.
> You want freedom but
>don't want to have to
>pay for the land on
>which you practice your freedom.
> None of you clowns
>believe in the free market.
>
>
>Nemont


You're Talkin out your Ass!

Again!
 
You two are always Quick to say:

Our Government done it,then it's Gospel to You!

How You Like their Last Church Lesson?
 
> You two are always Quick
>to say:
>
>Our Government done it,then it's Gospel
>to You!
>
>How You Like their Last Church
>Lesson?
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Just like the rest of the clown show on here, if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes your truth. I don't trust government on almost any issue. I trust guys like you even less than the because you don't want to follow laws, you want the sheriff to be king and you don't believe in the Constitution.

Pretty simple. You admit you would willing commit a felony, you love Lavoy who committed one and you worship Cliven for getting away with it. You are not a patriot in an fashion.



Nemont
 
>> You two are always Quick
>>to say:
>>
>>Our Government done it,then it's Gospel
>>to You!
>>
>>How You Like their Last Church
>>Lesson?
>>
>>
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>>
>
>Just like the rest of the
>clown show on here, if
>you repeat a lie often
>enough it becomes your truth.
> I don't trust government
>on almost any issue.
>I trust guys like you
>even less than the
>because you don't want to
>follow laws, you want the
>sheriff to be king and
>you don't believe in the
>Constitution.
>
>Pretty simple. You admit you
>would willing commit a felony,
>you love Lavoy who committed
>one and you worship Cliven
>for getting away with it.
> You are not a
>patriot in an fashion.
>
>
>
>Nemont

Talkin out Your Ass So Often you do it on a Regular Basis!
 
>
>Talkin out Your Ass So Often
>you do it on a
>Regular Basis!
>
As opposed to being a total @ss like you. Any Lavoy/Cliven Bundy lover like you is not worth wasting American citizenship on.

Nemont
 
Gees neMont what a douch you are. The prosecution didn't screw up, the feds did with all the bullshet they pulled on the bundys. I don't think you would appreciate the feds surrounding your place with snipers and aiming their lasers at your kids. Boy them kids were such a threat. I'm happy for the bundys, and lavoy flat out got murdered by your wonderful gov. You better hope they don't come after you.
 
So if the government got it wrong does that mean dude n homo got it wrong too....then lavoy was murdered....
 
>So if the government got it
>wrong does that mean dude
>n homo got it wrong
>too....then lavoy was murdered....


Well!

They didn't get it Right!

Bundys may not be out of it all yet!

But #### & ###### are always Quick to tell us if Our Government said it/done it,it's GOSPEL!

When the Government/BLM/and whoever else was involved during that Round-Up made some real poor choices!

Luckily nobody was killed!

But it was a Damn Miracle!

Then whatever the Government pulled off recently when they released the Bundys must of been real Professional!

Must of been the Right thing to do,Right #### & ######?
 
Elk,

You are so full of it, your eyes are leaking crap. The liars who tell lies are just at the end of the day, liars. I don't expect anything else from Bundy Worshippers.

Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-12-18 AT 10:12AM (MST)[p]>Gees neMont what a douch you
>are. The prosecution didn't screw
>up, the feds did with
>all the bullshet they pulled
>on the bundys. I don't
>think you would appreciate the
>feds surrounding your place with
>snipers and aiming their lasers
>at your kids. Boy them
>kids were such a threat.
>I'm happy for the bundys,
>and lavoy flat out got
>murdered by your wonderful gov.
>You better hope they don't
>come after you.


Horseclown,

I don't steal public resource, refuse to pay the below market sweet heart grazing fees and then stiff the people I owe money to like the Bundy's.

Since you support the Bundy version of events, can you find the document that states he has had those water right prior to the Taylor Grazing act because they don't exist. His entire schtick is to appeal to the idiot class who want to believe a Welfare Rancher who owns a whopping 160 acres is owed a living by the taxpayers. The Bundy's are bigger welfare queens than anyone else almost.

Maybe if Bundy cared so much about those kids, he would have paid his welfare grazing fees that are below cost and took care business.

No I don't want kids harmed but spare me the noble cowboy claim that you are buying from the Bundy clan, they are thieves and you love them so that means you are not worth a warm bucket of spit.

Nemont
 
I know what you're saying about the Bundy bunch Elkass, it's kind of like when the repo man comes for your car and there's a fight, it's automatically the repo mans fault. I get it.
 
>I know what you're saying about
>the Bundy bunch Elkass, it's
>kind of like when the
>repo man comes for your
>car and there's a fight,
>it's automatically the repo mans
>fault. I get it.
>

LMAO!

I Like watching the Repo Man on Youtube!
 
>
>Elk,
>
>You are so full of it,
>your eyes are leaking crap.
>The liars who tell lies
> are just at the
>end of the day, liars.
> I don't expect anything
>else from Bundy Worshippers.
>
>Nemont


Gonna tell you again!

DBAFP!!!
 
NEMO you can't make up your mind on anything can you ? You don't trust the government on anything ? And when I said trump is a jack wagon you spew he is your president ! Make up your sorry little mind you fence sitter. At least I am honest. I hate politicians and the BS that goes with them. You are just like your boy friend TOG. If it was not for good entertainment both of you would be totally worthless.
 
I don't listen to the JV on here. So what you think about me means about as much as the turd I just flushed, it looked like you to boot.



Nemont
 
Well the Bundy bunch did get one thing out of this whole deal. silent farts. and for that we thank you Tyrone.

Next time these terrorists who use women as cover point their guns at law enforcement, and they will. kill them all and be done with it .








Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
NEMO if I looked as ugly as you I would probably be as big a d bag as you are too. You are a slimy little coward. Go back to playing on your computer.
 
>Well the Bundy bunch did get
>one thing out of this
>whole deal. silent farts.
> and for that we
>thank you Tyrone.
>
>Next time these terrorists who use
>women as cover point their
>guns at law enforcement, and
>they will. kill them
>all and be done
>with it .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends


Ya!

We've Heard You BS Before!

Not only were you Wrong!

You were Wrong all the F'N Way!
 
Looks like some Posse Comitatus issues may come to light in this whole deal,, possably some active duty military present at listening stations around Bundy place long before the stand off.


Also take note that an FBI agent is under indictment in the LeVoy shooting. Just could not see
his way clear to tell the truth on the incident report.
 
Here is the deal. The resident liberals had Hillfog winning by a mile. Liberal hate winners.
 
Bundy did not win. the feds phuked up and failed to get an easy conviction. that's called a pass not a win.



I could not possibly care less if every one of you traitors got shot in the next confrontation. but I really do fear for the good people doing their jobs to protect our lands and enforce our laws . they used to publicly hang criminals to make an example of them, we just gave them candy and ammunition and some heroes will pay the price, of that you can be sure.

Your big woody over this shows exactly what you think you just pulled off. and you're going to try to capitalize on it there's no doubt. it disgusts me no end.



















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>Bundy did not win. the feds
>phuked up and failed
>to get an easy conviction.
> that's called a
>pass not a win.
>
>
>
> I could not possibly care
>less if every one of
>you traitors got shot in
>the next confrontation. but I
>really do fear for the
>good people doing their jobs
>to protect our lands and
>enforce our laws
>. they used
>to publicly hang criminals to
>make an example of them,
>we just gave them candy
>and ammunition and some heroes
>will pay the price, of
>that you can be sure.
>
>
>Your big woody over this
>shows exactly what you think
>you just pulled off. and
>you're going to try to
>capitalize on it there's no
>doubt. it disgusts
>me no end.
>
>
>
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>Stay Thirsty My Friends



Well Imagine that!

A While back you Claimed they'd Hang the Bundy's!

You're Wrong again dude!
 
They would have had they been competent. this had nothing to do with innocence.

You going to think it's as funny when they don't just point they pull the trigger on a law enforcement officer next time ? you know it's going to happen.











Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Dude what about the time a FBI sniper killed a unarmed woman and if I remember right, she was holding a infant in her arms. That was another standoff at Ruby ridge.
According to information I heard the FBI supervisor on scene gave a "shoot to kill order" then they covered that up.
I do not agree or condone what the Bundy's did, but two wrongs do not make a right.

RELH
 
RELH,
I always wonder how that would have gone if Randy Weaver cooperated with law enforcement. I know it's always going to be the Feds fault, but think about that. He could have given up long before anything bad happened.
 
>RELH,
>I always wonder how that would
>have gone if Randy Weaver
>cooperated with law enforcement.
>I know it's always going
>to be the Feds fault,
>but think about that.
>He could have given up
>long before anything bad happened.
>
Just imagine when those who wrote the constitution were thinking,they had big balls.
 
Capt. Cou, Randy weaver was a hard headed fool for not surrendering and he probably would have done a short jail sentence for cutting that shotgun barrel shorter then 18 inches. As it was he lost his wife and I believe his 14 year old son.
The part that jerks my jaw is the fact the ATF sent in a informant who talked Randy weaver into cutting the shotgun barrel for him in order for them to make a case on weaver.
Then under the "Fast and Furious" program ATF allowed illegal "straw buys" of so called assault rifles and allowed them to get into Mexican cartel hands and we had a border patrol agent killed and two of those weapons found at the scene of his murder. Which was the greater crime here? Did the ATF supervisor who implemented "Fast and Furious" face discipline action? No, he was promoted to the Washington D.C. office. There is something wrong here that allows law enforcement agencies to circumvent our laws that we hold common citizens too.

RELH
 
RELH, There are plenty of people who fully understand and sympathies with what you are saying,, but think it best not to chime in with so many rights being thrown under the bus these days. Guys like OchoPinocha will likely never understand.
 
RELH is on his gun control kick again. saying drug cartels don't kill people, guns kill people.

And WE ALL KNOW if Bush and Obama hadn't let those hundred guns get lost in MX the drug cartels would only have bows and arrows. well maybe a few pellet guns but that's all.





















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