Why blame the FBI?

NeMont

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-18 AT 11:22AM (MST)[p]Just curious why the rush to lay all the blame at the FBI's feet and not the local officials, including local police?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...florida-shooters-path-records-show/349716002/

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Social workers, mental health counselors and school administrators ? the front line of defense for many young adults ? documented and dismissed red flags during home visits and school evaluations, the records show.

?Mr. Cruz stated he plans to go out and buy a gun,? an investigator with Florida?s Department of Children and Families wrote in Sept. 28, 2016, four days after he turned 18 and six months before he legally bought the assault rifle. ?It is unknown what he is buying the gun for.?


Quote:

School staff called Henderson Behavioral Health in Broward County after learning Cruz had cut himself and after a fight he had with another student. An Oct. 7, 2016, note by a DCF investigator indicates a school counselor said "Henderson's Mobile crisis unit had been call out to the school and determined that he was not at risk to harm himself or others."

The Henderson crisis clinician treating Cruz said he found him stable enough not to be hospitalized under Florida?s Baker Act, which allows the state to commit people who pose a threat to themselves or others.

Quote:

"To me, that's shocking,? Sanchez said.

Cruz presented a clear threat to himself and others based on the self-mutilation, a frequent trigger for involuntary commitment, he said.
Had DCF or Henderson counselors committed Cruz, state law could have prevented him from buying the gun.

"What more did they want him to say?? Sanchez said. ?As a professional, how many more signs do you need to see before we say, 'We have a serious issue here?? ?



I am not saying the FBI did a good job either, just curious why the Trumpettes rush to judgement on the FBI but ignored the years of warnings local mental health, school and local police had on him?

Nemont
 
What does it have to do with Trumpettes? I haven't heard anyone that thinks the entire chain on this one was f'd up. That windbag sheriff is more guilty than the FBI but all of them had something to do with it. I guess the old "see something, say something" was just bullshit from the politicians and gubmint workers.
 
Nemont you are having a bout with short term memory lost. The first information to come out about the screw ups was the fact the FBI was the agency that ignored or lost track of the information given them by the bail bond agent and the citizen who came forward concerning the threats that the shooter made.

The information on the screw-ups by the locals did not come out until days later after many persons had already formed a opinion on the actions of the FBI.

As for the locals, there was sufficient information, based on their reports, to have committed the shooter to a mental facility for treatment as he was a danger to himself or others.

I have committed persons on less information under our 5150 W.&I. code for a 72 hour hold pending mental health evaluation by a mental health professional.

It appears, if the news agency reports are true, that the blame lies with several agencies, federal and local and all need to be held accountable. The law suits are going to fly and the insurance companies are going to be paying out many millions on this boondoggle by local, state and federal agencies.

Bottom line you were too quick to blame "Trumpettes" and showed your contempt and bias attitude.

RELH
 
OK NeMont!

I Blame all of them!

You Happy Now?

Of Course You're Not!

Simple Question?

Did the JOKER Kill them People?

Or was it the Gun That Killed them?

If You Won't Answer the Question,Maybe dude will take a Stab at it!
 
I'm betting Nemont is blaming the gun toting ##### armed guard who held his own during the battle. Oh that's right he hid while the kids were being slaughtered. Yes he was a Democrat #####.
 
So you clowns, show me where the threads are bashing the other that dropped the ball? They don'd exist, period. Did your hero Trump have tweetstorm about the local yokels not doing enough, from the guard who hid to the local police? Of course not because you are just like him, looking for an excuse to discredit the entire FBI. Just admit you Trumpettes love the bashing FBI. It ain't hard to admit the truth.

I blame these shootings on the shooter numero uno, I blame the school district, mental health people and local police who KNEW the kid was a menace. I blame the pussified guard who didn't enter the building. I am fine with blaming the FBI for their failure, I just don't see a single Trumpteer starting threads and posting about all the other who failed, Only the FBI.

You clowns can play follow the leader only so far before you just admit you are political hacks and Trump could kill a person and you would say the FBI made him do it and the person deserved to be killed.

I guess since Trump told you it was the FBI's fault, that is good enough for the Trumpettes.



Nemont
 
Nemont--Pretty simple really Cheetos declared war on the FBI not the local agencies.

Cheetos declared war because the FBI will be involved in bringing the crime family to justice.
 
>So you clowns, show me where
>the threads are bashing the
>other that dropped the ball?
> They don'd exist, period.
> Did your hero
>Trump have tweetstorm about the
>local yokels not doing enough,
>from the guard who hid
>to the local police?
>Of course not because you
>are just like him, looking
>for an excuse to discredit
>the entire FBI. Just
>admit you Trumpettes love the
>bashing FBI. It ain't
>hard to admit the truth.
>
>
>I blame these shootings on the
>shooter numero uno, I blame
>the school district, mental health
>people and local police who
>KNEW the kid was a
>menace. I blame the
>pussified guard who didn't enter
>the building. I am fine
>with blaming the FBI for
>their failure, I just don't
>see a single Trumpteer starting
>threads and posting about all
>the other who failed, Only
>the FBI.
>
>You clowns can play follow the
>leader only so far before
>you just admit you are
>political hacks and Trump could
>kill a person and you
>would say the FBI made
>him do it and the
>person deserved to be killed.
>
>
>I guess since Trump told you
>it was the FBI's fault,
>that is good enough for
>the Trumpettes.
>
>
>
>Nemont

If You Haven't F'N Noticed for the Last Several Years, the F'N FBI has been a F'N JOKE!

Pull the F'N Wool up over your eyes!












It Won't Be Long and a 22" PISSCUTTER will be known as a Trophy that will be put on the Wall!




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Yet the Trumpettes went straight to blaming the FBI, not the local, on the ground responsible agencies. Trump didn't tell them to hold anyone else accountable.

Nemont
 
Uh... I'm not at all a "Trumpette" and the FBI actually admitted to screwing up so kudos to them for getting 17 kids killed. The locals are just as much to blame but I myself hold the FBI to a higher standard than local Barney Fifes. WTF do we need the FBI for if they're not held to a higher standard than local donut shop keystone cops?

The fact that you're not outraged about the FBI's handling of the FISA warrant is very telling. You're damned right the FBI screwed up and you're damned right I will call them out on it and guess what... that doesn't make me a "Trumpette".

It's funny, you have no problem calling out Trump but when someone calls out the FBI, you label them "Trumpettes". Who died and gave you sole authority on what government official or agency people can call out? The bottom line is the FBI ******* up, 17 kids are dead and the FBI admits it. Think of it this way, the FBI is the varsity team and the locals are the JV's. When the Varsity loses the championship game nobody gives a ##### if the JV's won or lost.

Relax dude, it's not a Trump thing. Not every thing is a damned Trump thing. The FBI is incompetent right now and that doesn't make me a Trumpeteer. We get that you would love to see Trump ran off in handcuffs but step back from the TDS for a minute and see that the evidence so far shows that the FBI mislead the FISC court to obtain the warrant and they screwed up the Florida shooting. They deserve the blame. THAT IS ALL!!
 
Abe was no Kasich & im sure Hank is a fake conservative, elky.

They all dropped the ball Kasich but it was made public the FBI was contacted with solid information this kid was a ticking time bomb and didn't follow up or contact local authorities. So since you've pinned your hopes on the FBI boys to take down the "orange man" we can't call it like we see it when they phuk up? Is that how real conservatives do it?
 
>Uh... I'm not at all a
>"Trumpette" and the FBI actually
>admitted to screwing up so
>kudos to them for getting
>17 kids killed. The
>locals are just as much
>to blame but I myself
>hold the FBI to a
>higher standard than local Barney
>Fifes. WTF do we
>need the FBI for if
>they're not held to a
>higher standard than local donut
>shop keystone cops?
>
>The fact that you're not outraged
>about the FBI's handling of
>the FISA warrant is very
>telling. You're damned right
>the FBI screwed up and
>you're damned right I will
>call them out on it
>and guess what... that doesn't
>make me a "Trumpette".
>
>It's funny, you have no problem
>calling out Trump but when
>someone calls out the FBI,
>you label them "Trumpettes".
>Who died and gave you
>sole authority on what government
>official or agency people can
>call out? The bottom
>line is the FBI *******
>up, 17 kids are dead
>and the FBI admits it.
> Think of it this
>way, the FBI is the
>varsity team and the locals
>are the JV's. When
>the Varsity loses the championship
>game nobody gives a #####
>if the JV's won or
>lost.
>
>Relax dude, it's not a Trump
>thing. Not every thing
>is a damned Trump thing.
> The FBI is incompetent
>right now and that doesn't
>make me a Trumpeteer.
>We get that you would
>love to see Trump ran
>off in handcuffs but step
>back from the TDS for
>a minute and see that
>the evidence so far shows
>that the FBI mislead the
>FISC court to obtain the
>warrant and they screwed up
>the Florida shooting. They
>deserve the blame. THAT
>IS ALL!!


Right on CAForky!

Too Bad there wasn't a Concealed Carrier that could of took care of this JOKER!

As in Maybe Blowed His Brains out before He shot anybody!
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-18 AT 06:47PM (MST)[p]As I mentioned before...severe case of TDS. LOSER!
 
It's getting to the point that Nemont is becoming dude's twin and you want to just not read his redundant posts and ignore his B.S.

RELH
 
TDS. Teaching Dummies something.

What Federal law did the FBI not enforce in Florida? You all whine like little beoches about Federal over reach and then beotch that they didn't do the local police job. So what authority does the FBI have here I please show the federal laws this kid broke. He broke Florida law for sure. So how much over reach is okay with you?

How come the FISC warrant was renewed twice under Session?s watch?

Seems like there is more to the story that none of us know when it comes to that FISC warrant. You all are just hoping it is dirty and let's Trump off the hook. You don't know nor do I and we never will.

If they are dirty put them in prison and throw away the key.

Nemont
 
>It's getting to the point that
>Nemont is becoming dude's twin
>and you want to just
>not read his redundant posts
>and ignore his B.S.
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
>


God I wish you would ignore my posts. Please feel free to never read them ever again. I dare you.
 
>TDS. Teaching Dummies something.
>
>What Federal law did the FBI
>not enforce in Florida?
>You all whine like little
>beoches about Federal over
>reach and then beotch that
>they didn't do the local
>police job. So what
>authority does the FBI have
>here I please show the
>federal laws this kid broke.
> He broke Florida law
>for sure. So how
>much over reach is okay
>with you?
>
>How come the FISC warrant was
>renewed twice under Session?s watch?
>
>
>Seems like there is more to
>the story that none of
>us know when it comes
>to that FISC warrant. You
>all are just hoping it
>is dirty and let's Trump
>off the hook. You
>don't know nor do I
>and we never will.
>
>If they are dirty put them
>in prison and throw away
>the key.
>
>Nemont

If this!

If that!

JUDAS!

WAKE TF Up!
 
LMAO! That's probably the lamest defense of the FBI that I have ever heard. You should read this --

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-the-shooting-in-parkland-florida

And this --

https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/news-podcasts-thisweek-public-access-line.mp3/view

Now Nemont you are acting really dumb on this thread. The FBI wants the public to call in and report things just like this and you're asking where there jurisdiction is and what federal laws were broken?

In case you didn't know, the FBI doesn't stand for Foolish Bitchass Insurance salesmen. It stands for Federal Bureau of Investigation, so inherently obvious to people without TDS, their ******** job is to investigate shyt. One of the things that they investigate just so happens to be terrorism and the other perhaps more pertinent thing that they investigate is violent crimes which include mass killings.

Now, the TDS is strong I know, but you have to be stronger to overcome the symptoms of it. One of those symptoms is FOT or full on retard which is what you're displaying with this thread. Think about it. If the FBI investigates violent crimes which include mass killings, wouldn't logic tell you that getting a tip from someone regarding a potential mass killer should at least raise an eyebrow or two?

So let's just cut the bullshyt and admit that you're wrong. You're blinded by TDS and you must admit it, it's the first step to recovery. You didn't ##### this much when Obama was POTUS. I don't recall you calling FTW, Corntard or Ochoidiot Obamaettes when they did nothing but defend his stupid agenda so why the constant attacks on Trump supporters? The only explanation is TDS, now be a man and admit that you're wrong on this thread and maybe even take it one step further and apologize for calling those of us who called out the FBI Trumpettes.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-18 AT 09:41PM (MST)[p]So can the clown show tell me what federal law was broken by the shooter in Florida? Or is that TDS-trump Does Suck not allow an answer.

There s no federal law for murder nor is there one that allows gun confiscation of legally purchases guns.

So enumerate which federal laws were broken.

What Federal over reach will you clowns accept and what is too much?

Why did the FISC renew the Warrant twice since Trump was sworn in?

Simple questions. See if your TDS- Trump?s Dunce Supporters, can answer

Nemont
 
CAforkhorn, you never get Nemont to admit he is wrong or even to change his tune. It is obvious that Nemont is a narcissistic elite that knows everything and would have you believe that he knows how you should live your life to meet his standards. If course, you would never obtain his standards as he is the chosen one.

As Bess would say, Nemont is just full of crap that it leaks out his ears leaving a brown stain. I have to agree with that observation.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-18 AT 09:51PM (MST)[p]Eel,

Failed to report the call to whom? The local cops right? They apologized for that. They have no jurisdiction in local matters that didn't violate federal laws. Or are you now advocating for Federal Over Reach?

I agree the FBI didn't do enough. That isn't my question, Show me the posts and threads the Trumpettes have posted blaming the local authorities, who actually have jurisdiction. Show me those. Of course they don't exist because of TDS- Trump Didn?t Say to blame anyone but the FBI

Nemont
 
So can you enumerate what federal laws the shooter broke that would allow for the FBI to take over? Or are you suffering from TDS- Terribly Dumb Stooge?
 
Jesus Nemont you're beyond full on retard. The TDS is worse than I thought with you. Let me see if I can explain it a little better for you. IT DOESN'T ******** MATTER IF ANY FEDERAL LAWS WERE BROKEN OR NOT, IT'S THEIR ******** JOB TO INVESTIGATE MASS KILLINGS SO WHEN SOMEONE CALLS IN A ******** TIP ON THEIR ******** DESIGNATED PUBLIC ACCESS LINE AND REPORTS THAT THERE IS A TICKING TIME BOMB WITH THIS MENTALLY DERANGED LUNATIC, THE ******** FBI SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK INTO IT.

Hopefully you can now understand that the FBI is balls deep into this thing and you're being stupid.

As for the FISA warrant, I have seen nothing that refutes the Nunes memo which lays out how the court was misled into granting the warrant. I don't believe that Jeff Sessions is competent enough to even understand what a FISA warrant is so nothing surprises me with him. He is an abject failure so far. I do know that it is a fact that under the Obama administration, the IRS was weaponized for political gain, so why should I not be convinced that the FBI was as well?

Now again, be a man and admit this thread is stupid and that you're trying to turn this into a Trump bashing ceremony. Which, in the end makes you no better than CNN, Michael Moore, or Rosie O'Donnell. Stop the TDS already man and as Eel said don't be a douche.
 
You're wrong. The FBI absolutely does have jurisdiction. I can't stress enough how wrong you are and it's making you look really dumb dude.
 
I'm going to try to help you one last time. This quote is directly from the FBI website,


"Even with its post-9/11 national security responsibilities, the FBI continues to play a key role in combating violent crime in big cities and local communities across the United States.
The Bureau concentrates on crime problems that pose major threats to American society. Significant violent crime incidents such as mass killings, sniper murders, and serial killings can paralyze entire communities and stretch state and local law enforcement resources to their limits. And particular investigative emphasis is put on criminal street gangs, crimes against children, child prostitution, bank robberies and other violent robberies, carjackings, kidnappings, fugitives and missing persons, crimes on Indian reservations, and assaults and threats of assault on the president and other federal officials."


Now reading this paragraph, it specifically states that the FBI concentrates on significant violent crime incidents which includes mass killings. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
 
Nemont read post #2 and crawl back into your snake hole and shut up. Your crying and whining is getting old and juvenile.

RELH
 
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-18
>AT 09:51?PM (MST)

>
>Eel,
>
>Failed to report the call to
>whom? The local
>cops right? They apologized
>for that. They have no
>jurisdiction in local matters that
>didn't violate federal laws.
>Or are you now advocating
>for Federal Over Reach?
>
>I agree the FBI didn't do
>enough. That isn't my
>question, Show me the
>posts and threads the Trumpettes
>have posted blaming the local
>authorities, who actually have jurisdiction.
> Show me those.
> Of course they don't
>exist because of TDS-
>Trump Didn?t Say to blame
>anyone but the FBI
>
>Nemont

LaVoy Didn't even have an AR & He's Dead!

LaVoy didn't Shoot anybody!

You Sure were Proud of the OSP & FBI then!

This 'KNOWN' JOKER was way more of a F'N Threat & He's Still Alive!

SPLAIN that one AssssHole!
 
>Nemont--Pretty simple really Cheetos declared war
>on the FBI not the
>local agencies.
>
>Cheetos declared war because the FBI
>will be involved in bringing
>the crime family to justice.
>
We are patiently waiting ...........
 
You guys whine about TDS. Well Trump Done Said the following- local cops were cowards, rank and file of the FBI is incompetent and the leadership is corrupt.

I guess the bottom line for Trumpettes is don't trust the cops.

All I'm asking is to explain why the clown show so quickly blame only the FBI?

I give less than two shyts if you hang Comey and company if you prove they were corrupt.


The TDS, trump's Debt Syndrome, that you clowns suffer from is far more destructive to the future but I get it the future is for the suckers, you will get yours now.


So have at it the clown show must go on here on mm.com

Nemont
 
I guess when Mike Tyson splattered your face in, you received more brain damage than was previously reported. You are one pathetic scrotum loser. Your poor wife and kids having to put up with the smartest man in the world. Worst case of Trump Derangement Syndrome ever recorded. Congrats
 
>I guess when Mike Tyson splattered
>your face in, you received
>more brain damage than was
>previously reported. You are one
>pathetic scrotum loser. Your poor
>wife and kids having to
>put up with the smartest
>man in the world. Worst
>case of Trump Derangement Syndrome
>ever recorded. Congrats

PERFECT
 
>>I guess when Mike Tyson splattered
>>your face in, you received
>>more brain damage than was
>>previously reported. You are one
>>pathetic scrotum loser. Your poor
>>wife and kids having to
>>put up with the smartest
>>man in the world. Worst
>>case of Trump Derangement Syndrome
>>ever recorded. Congrats
>
> PERFECT
>


So you fakers resort to my wife and kids. Bunch of cowards. It is no wonder you enjoy the Orange schlong inserted. You are truly pathetic excuses.

Have you seen corporate America is fleeing the NRA? Why would your friends do such a thing?

My family are all productive members of The country. All are having to contribute to you phony?s who are on Medicare and social security taking with both hands.

Your TDS will make it certain that they will continue to pay for your hard on pills.

Not that a single one of you care.

Cowards

Nemont
 
Alwaysgot to get the last word in
Didn't you getting your azz kicked back in grade school teach you a lesson. You're WEAK Mr. NeMont.
 
We all know NEMO would vote for lil Kim if it meant the government forcing people to buy his BS insurance ! NEMO will say anything to try to convince people he has some shred of decency. The ONLY thing he cares about is making money off of people at ANY cost. The Russia BS went no where now it non stop the money being spent on the military and debt! If it wasn?t that he would be crying about something else. And NEMO you open your stink hole about someone saying something about your family ? Give me a real you puke look at the things you say about the First Lady and trumps family ! Like I have to you many times GFYS coward.
 
Wait a minute Nemont! Karen (YBO) said you got punched by Mike Tyson and something about grade school. You went to school with Mike Tyson??? Cool!
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-18 AT 05:44PM (MST)[p]Lol. I see Karen is my wife. She must of signed me up years ago. In fact there were like less than 100 people signed up. Something like 5 forums. Long time ago.
 
Hey NeMont!

I Hope you're not BAFP around your Wife & Kids!

If You are as Arrogant around your Family as You are here at MM You need some Mental Help!

Should We Report you to the FBI?

(((Don't worry,they Ain't gonna do anything Until you Flip Your F'N Lid!)))
 
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-18
>AT 05:44?PM (MST)

>
>Lol. I see Karen is my
>wife. She must of signed
>me up years ago. In
>fact there were like less
>than 100 people signed up.
>Something like 5 forums. Long
>time ago.

I've been gonna ask about the Karen thing for a while.

Yeah, I remember those days. I remember Founder coming on whatever forum I was hanging out on then and inviting us over here. Spent most of my time on the Bears, lions, coyotes etc forum with HoundDawg, edhunter, Kattrax, Kevin D and a few others arguing with Russelle E. Taylor.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-18 AT 08:01PM (MST)[p]
>>Lol. I see Karen is my
>>wife. She must of signed
>>me up years ago. In
>>fact there were like less
>>than 100 people signed up.
>>Something like 5 forums. Long
>>time ago.
>
>I've been gonna ask about the
>Karen thing for a while.
>
>
>Yeah, I remember those days. I
>remember Founder coming on whatever
>forum I was hanging out
>on then and inviting us
>over here. Spent most of
>my time on the Bears,
>lions, coyotes etc forum with
>HoundDawg, edhunter, Kattrax, Kevin D
>and a few others arguing
>with Russelle E. Taylor.

Sounds like a bon jovi song, ♪♪"only the names have chaaanged!"♫♫


#livelikezac
 
>>LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-18
>>AT 05:44?PM (MST)

>>
>>Lol. I see Karen is my
>>wife. She must of signed
>>me up years ago. In
>>fact there were like less
>>than 100 people signed up.
>>Something like 5 forums. Long
>>time ago.
>
>I've been gonna ask about the
>Karen thing for a while.
>
>
>Yeah, I remember those days. I
>remember Founder coming on whatever
>forum I was hanging out
>on then and inviting us
>over here. Spent most of
>my time on the Bears,
>lions, coyotes etc forum with
>HoundDawg, edhunter, Kattrax, Kevin D
>and a few others arguing
>with Russelle E. Taylor.

what year was that ? I was hear in 2006 ,I remember Spechvont, I think that's how it was pronounced .
 
Very Few Know about the Public Forum!










It Won't Be Long and a 22" PISSCUTTER will be known as a Trophy that will be put on the Wall!




90087hankjr.jpg
 
>>LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-18
>>AT 05:44?PM (MST)

>>
>>Lol. I see Karen is my
>>wife. She must of signed
>>me up years ago. In
>>fact there were like less
>>than 100 people signed up.
>>Something like 5 forums. Long
>>time ago.
>
>I've been gonna ask about the
>Karen thing for a while.
>
>
>Yeah, I remember those days. I
>remember Founder coming on whatever
>forum I was hanging out
>on then and inviting us
>over here. Spent most of
>my time on the Bears,
>lions, coyotes etc forum with
>HoundDawg, edhunter, Kattrax, Kevin D
>and a few others arguing
>with Russelle E. Taylor.


Hey NVB?

Bet You Don't even know YBO's Original Handle?

ROOKIE!
 
>
> Hey NVB?
>
>Bet You Don't even know YBO's
>Original Handle?
>
>ROOKIE!
>


Was it Karen?

I remember the public forum. I was here in 2003 at least.
 
I Don't Remember Exactly when the Public Forum got Toasted!

Founder was PISSED though!

Nemont coulda Really Let His BS Fly if He had been around back then!
 
So... Nemont gets his ass kicked in his own thread and he changes the subject back to the debt? WTF?

Nemont, admit that you're wrong and move on. You'll sleep better at night knowing that even you, yes even you are not right about everything.
 
Actually, before YBO it was bb but before that it was originally YBO. Can't remember why I lost the handle. Anyway it had to be around 1999/2000 maybe earlier. Do you remember the Peta loving human hating "Dr Death?" I think Bess hog tied him and dropped him off at Mike Tysons junkyard.
 
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>>I'll give you a Hint NVB!
>>
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>>His Initials were bb!
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> Bobcat Bess ?
>



Notta!

You know who that was 264!:D
 
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>>>I'll give you a Hint NVB!
>>>
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>>>His Initials were bb!
>>>
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>> Bobcat Bess ?
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>Notta!
>
>You know who that was 264!:D
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+1. Elk do you have the record in Posts ?
 
Hey 264!

Maybe Combined!

bb was up around 15,000-16,000 Posts when the Shite Hit the Fan!

Can't Remember Numbers on the other Handles?

ShowThemToMe was Up there Perty Good!

Several other Handles I Won't Mention!
 
People who change their username are weird....or trouble makers...:D

I should quit hanging out with you guys. Nah!

97172deliverancebanjo.jpg
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-25-18 AT 07:56AM (MST)[p]If NeMont's job is to stimulate conversation, he gets an A+

 
>So... Nemont gets his ass kicked
>in his own thread and
>he changes the subject back
>to the debt? WTF?
>
>
>Nemont, admit that you're wrong and
>move on. You'll sleep
>better at night knowing that
>even you, yes even you
>are not right about everything.
>

Wait for it .............
 
They're blaming the FBI simply because they have nowhere else to place their turds.

I never thought I'd see the day the democrats were the law enforcement party but we're there. if something ain't going your way find a cop to blame it on. Trump started it all when he fired Comey , now law enforcement is the catch all scapegoat for everything. let's see if it works out.

















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>They're blaming the FBI simply because
>they have nowhere else to
>place their turds.
>
>I never thought I'd see the
>day the democrats were the
>law enforcement party but we're
>there. if something ain't
>going your way find a
>cop to blame it on.
> Trump started it
>all when he fired Comey
>, now law enforcement
>is the catch all scapegoat
>for everything. let's
>see if it works out.
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You listen and believe Maxine Waters don't you?
 
The TDS-Trump?s Dumb Stooges, are a bunch of whiners. Can any of the clown show yet explain what the FBI could have done that the local cops didn't do in 30 plus visits with the shooter?

On what authority would they have without consent and cooperation from the locals who dropped the ball for 3 plus years?



Nemont
 
Nemont you are in no position to be able to say that if the FBI had passed the information forward to their local office in Florida, and to the locals. It just might have been what was needed to tip the iceberg and something done with the shooter before he went on his rampage.

You are on a stupid fishing expedition trying to bail your butt out on being called out on your anti Trump tirade. Grow up and quit being a juvenile whiner.

RELH
 
So again , if it's the FBI who selects the man at the top who's in charge of these priorities ?

Sometimes chit flows uphill. you can't have it both ways so think about it now.










Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Dude, Trump has not yet drained the FBI swamp of the Obama hold overs at the top level just below the Director. Give him time and he will get rid of them.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-25-18 AT 06:50PM (MST)[p]didn't "see something...say something" come from the feds???

...a couple different people saw something and said something....and nothing was done...



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RELH

A TDS-Trump Doting Slurper, like you should be able name the Federal Law that was broken by the shooter.

The local cops would have arrested the guy if the tip had Bennet passed on? They didn't do that the 30+ times they were there before.

Nemont
 
Homer

Can you find anywhere this shooting was labeled terrorism? If that is so how come at his arrangement he wasn?t charged with Terrorism and it didn't happen in Federal Court?

Nemont
 
>Homer
>
>Can you find anywhere this shooting
>was labeled terrorism? If
>that is so how come
>at his arrangement he wasn?t
>charged with Terrorism and it
>didn't happen in Federal Court?
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>Nemont

This JOKER Made a little more than a 'REACH'!

He's Still Alive!

SPLAIN It!
 
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(a) Prohibited Acts.?
(1) Offenses.?Whoever, involving conduct transcending national boundaries and in a circumstance described in subsection (b)?
(A) kills, kidnaps, maims, commits an assault resulting in serious bodily injury, or assaults with a dangerous weapon any person within the United States; or

(B) creates a substantial risk of serious bodily injury to any other person by destroying or damaging any structure, conveyance, or other real or personal property within the United States or by attempting or conspiring to destroy or damage any structure, conveyance, or other real or personal property within the United States;

in violation of the laws of any State, or the United States, shall be punished as prescribed in subsection (c).

(2) Treatment of threats, attempts and conspiracies.?
Whoever threatens to commit an offense under paragraph (1), or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished under subsection (c).

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Nemont the above is federal law involving terrorist threats. When he made threats to shoot up a school, he violated the above law. When he shot up the school and killed 17 students, he again violated the federal stature. Quit your juvenile whining.

Maybe it was not filed in federal court because the FBI did not want their dirty laundry being exposed to examination by the defense attorney involving their screw ups. To circumvent that possibility would be to allow the case be tried under state laws.

RELH
 
RELH is such a tool. Wray has been in charge since the first of August. how slow does the swamp drain ? but I bet he's " loyal " huh ?



Why don't you slurps be honest for once in your life. if the FBI had broken down this kid's door you'd be chitting kittens because all he had done wrong was buy a Rambo gun. until he used it. he made no specific threats, wanting to become a school shooter is not a threat, it's a phuking stupid thing to say. if we're going to arrest every batchit Rambo with a MAGA hat who says stupid things you better fund a GITMO expansion.



Speaking of retards making threats and Rambo guns, where do we start ? how do we decide who's doors get kicked in and who becomes an NRA board member ?







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>RELH is such a tool.
> Wray has been in
>charge since the first of
>August. how slow does
>the swamp drain ?
> but I bet he's
>" loyal "
>huh ?
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>Why don't you slurps be honest
>for once in your life.
> if the FBI had
>broken down this kid's door
>you'd be chitting kittens because
>all he had done wrong
>was buy a Rambo gun.
> until he used it.
> he made no specific
>threats, wanting to become
>a school shooter is not
>a threat, it's a phuking
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>arrest every batchit Rambo with
>a MAGA hat who says
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Now That's an Easy F'N Question to Answer!

Since you're the First one that wants Guns Banned they should knock your F'N Door down First!
 
Dude like I have said before, it is good you are a dirt farmer. You do not have a simple clue about what is considered a terrorist threat.
As for kicking in his door and taking him off, we would not have batted an eye, just the same as we would not bat an eye if they kicked in your door and hauled your butt away to the nearest pokey.

RELH
 
So you are saying the rank and file of the FBI is so incompetent that they received a tip about a terrorist attack and they ignored it. You and Trump share the same view.

Can you find anything from any source other than here in TDS-Trump's Dumb Stooge land where this was called terrorism?

Show me where this kid was charged with terrorism in Federal Court. unless you are saying the FBI can go arrest the kid and then ignore the reason they arrested him.

All I am asking is to hold the locals in the same contempt the clown show holds the FBI. Or UST admit you don't really care you just want Trump protected at all costs.



Nemont
 
It's pretty sad that we have to stoop to this level at all. we have to find someone to blame for an 18 year old kid legally buying a rambo POS and shooting up a school. really ? we have our NRA version of black lives matter on excuse detail.


This is an older article and I'm sure it's only gotten worse. considering the volume of tips and the lack of officers I think law enforcement as a whole does a pretty damn good job . but then, I'm not looking for a scapegoat am I .


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/11/10000_potential_maniacs.html











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Nemont your hatred has let you go over the deep end. Are you really that darn stupid after all?
The informant that came forward and told the FBI that Cruz has stated he wanted to shoot up a school and had the firearms to do it was enough to get a search warrant and arrest warrant. Yet the FBI did not follow up with that information.
If you want to protect the sloppy investigation work of the FBI, go ahead and just admit that you are willing to accept such low standards from the premier law enforcement agency in this country.

Cruz clearly comes under federal laws for his act of terrorism, yet the FBI is not jumping to the fore front to try him in federal court as they normally do. Are you smart enough to figured that one out?

If tried in Federal court, a defense lawyer will resort to the true and tried attack the law enforcement agency when you do not have any other defense. The FBI gets raked over the coals for their sloppy work and failure to investigate. Right now the FBI does not want any more bad press as they have hit a record low opinion with the public over the Trump investigation. THEY ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM THIS CASE.

The locals screwed up big also and that Sheriff's Dept. seems to have some severe training issues. There also seems to be a lot of pressure has been put on the local law enforcement not to take people in to custody for mental issues. Did the sheriff foster this policy, or was it fostered by the county supervisors that control the purse strings for the sheriff's dept.

RELH
 
The FBI doesn't charge anybody with a crime, right? Who does the charging of Federal Crimes? It the U.S. Attorney and/or Jeff Sessions' Justice Department. Are they dirty too and covering for the FBI? You are telling the AG wouldn't pursue Terrorism charges in such a politically charge case?

The isn't a federal murder statute so Cruz wouldn't be tried for murder in Federal Court. Suppose that is why he is charged in State Court?

I don't want to protect anybody. I want you TDS, Trump's Dense Stooges, to tell the truth about what you claim. That is it. No school shooting in America has been called or charged as Terrorism. The FBI doesn't charge defendants, the U.S. Attorney or the Dept of Justice does.

None of that exonerates anybody or affects the fact that 17 people were killed. It does show far in the tank clown show is willing to go to make sure Trump safe from investigations by the FBI.

Nemont
 
So we have some issues in 2016. if the cops had gone to him then what would they have done based on the facts ? could they have held him in jail indefinitely ? if not then would that have changed anything in 2018 ?

So we have a " woman " calling in a month before the shooting and saying Cruz is a threat. is that enough to arrest him ? so we have kids who knew him who said he was dangerous, is that cause for arewst? if so would he have been in jail last week ? could they hold him forever ? if not how would that prevent him being even more pissed when he was released ?



Lots of ifs and maybe's. but no proof a white supremacist with an AR-15 could have been prevented from doing a phuking thing. can we admit that much ?

Maybe arming kid with an AR-15 isn't the best idea. ya think ?














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>So we have some issues in
>2016. if the cops
>had gone to him then
>what would they have done
>based on the facts ?
>could they have held him
>in jail indefinitely ? if
>not then would that have
>changed anything in 2018 ?
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>month before the shooting and
>saying Cruz is a threat.
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>to arrest him ? so
>we have kids who knew
>him who said he was
>dangerous, is that cause for
>arewst? if so
>would he have been in
>jail last week ?
>could they hold him forever
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>would that prevent him being
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Ask your Village idiot that lost the election.
 
> The FBI doesn't charge
>anybody with a crime, right?

Well!

If LaVoy was Still here He'd probably Confirm that for you!


> Who does the charging
>of Federal Crimes? It
>the U.S. Attorney and/or Jeff
>Sessions' Justice Department. Are
>they dirty too and covering
>for the FBI?

Na!

Our Government Would Never Pull any kind of Crooked BS!


>You are telling the AG
>wouldn't pursue Terrorism charges in
>such a politically charge case?

Evidently Not,The JOKER Is Still Wasting Oxygen!
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>The isn't a federal murder statute
>so Cruz wouldn't be tried
>for murder in Federal Court.
> Suppose that is why
>he is charged in State
>Court?

Ya,Lets let somebody off the F'N Hook when You've Got Him Outright on 17 Murders not counting the Wounded!


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>I don't want to protect anybody.
> I want you TDS,
>Trump's Dense Stooges, to tell
>the truth about what you
>claim. That is it.
> No school shooting in
>America has been called or
>charged as Terrorism. The
>FBI doesn't charge defendants, the
>U.S. Attorney or the Dept
>of Justice does.

Maybe a few things should Change & Start Hanging them & Advertise it on National TV,Oh and on Your FaceBook Accounts too!

Put That in your F'N Pipe & Smoke it!


>
>None of that exonerates anybody or
>affects the fact that 17
>people were killed. It
>does show far in the
>tank clown show is willing
>to go to make sure
>Trump safe from investigations by
>the FBI.
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>Nemont
 
Yeah, I figured that was the best you could do. but you won't bet on another win . that says it all, you're going back to being the losers you've always been.


Speaking of you village idiots, Trump just made a case for nobody to have a gun. just run in and beat the chit out of the AR-15 shooting murderer. who wouldn't right ?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-tried-stop-parkland-shooter-bare-hands-175958787.html


I would like to see your orange love and you Rambo's in this situation. I would soooooooo love to see that. who fears an AR-15 ? not you guys. nobody should. god I frik'in love this comedy show.






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>Yeah, I figured that was
>the best you could do.
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>on another win .
>that says it all, you're
>going back to being the
>losers you've always been.
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>just made a case for
>nobody to have a gun.
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>beat the chit out of
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>who wouldn't right ?
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>see that. who fears
>an AR-15 ? not
>you guys. nobody should.
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You silly Bastard ,with all the chaos going on at that school it would have been quite easy to get a shot at that shooter ,but of course if the officer would have been on donuts and crown that would have been a different situation, give us some more pointers.
 
With all the chaos going on it would have been easy to get a shot ? you sound as brave as Trump, what you mean by " easy " is safe, it would be safe to spray lead in the shooters direction because he can't see you through all the kids between you and behind you.


You and Trump could both teach John Wick a thing or two no doubt.


This is as close to danger as Don Wick has ever come. watch his cat like reflexes and killer instinct come alive.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-danger/ar-BBJDAsu?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp





Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
> With all the chaos going
>on it would have been
>easy to get a shot
>? you sound
>as brave as Trump,
>what you mean by "
>easy " is safe,
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>shooters direction because he can't
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When your done washing your donuts down with the Crown come back with something better.
 
Dude you really are that damn dumb when it comes to law enforcement investigations. I have grandkids that know more about the subject and could make you look like a idiot on the subject.

The FBI, if they had done their job according to their own rules and regulation policy, had more then sufficient time to gather collaboration to back up the two informant's statements to them. There was collaboration on the suspect's posting on the internet. FBI should have contacted local law enforcement and they would have learned about all the times local law enforcement went out to the suspect's house due to disturbance calls. They would have learned he was stock piling firearms,that would have only taken them 30 seconds to find out with a computer check.

They would have leaned about the time he cut himself in a possible "help me" suicide attempt. In other words if they had made just a small effort of doing their job by their own policy concerning followup investigation, they would have been able to show the informants were "RELIABLE" and gotten a search warrant and arrest warrant to prevent a possible terrorist attack by a mentally deranged person.

I have written over 40-50 search warrants in my career and have never had a search warrant denied and I know what I am talking about. Stick to your dirt farming and drinking your crown as you are a expert on those two subjects. Well maybe on the crown, no so sure on the dirt farming.

RELH
 
Nemont, I've explained to you the jurisdiction the FBI has in this case but you refuse to accept that you're wrong. There does not have to be any federal laws broken for the FBI to get involved, why can't you understand this? Nobody ever said that local law enforcement wasn't to blame as well, but the FBI has more resources at it's disposal and therefore is the "varsity" team. In my book they are held to a higher standard, that is all. I don't know why you have to make everything about Trump and you act like the FBI has never made mistakes before.

Again, we get that you hate Trump but it's getting childish, especially for the self proclaimed smartest man in the world.
 
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GFYS with your "self proclaimed" bs, I never said it. Which is required in ordered to be "self proclaimed". It is Elkass who cannot tolerate anyone not agreeing that he is the mouth of Utard land who made the "self proclaimed" stupid shyt up just like everything on here.


So show me the claim or just admit you are a liar like the rest of the clown car driver fans.


45 times in a decade the sheriff was out there and it is the sole responsibility of the FBI to sift through all the tips they get daily and know that Cruz was going to kill 17 people? If the local yokels were competent there would have never been a shooting done by the nut job.

So put blame on the FBI, I guess that is what the talking Yam wants, so the Trump's Dumb Stooges listen to him and do it.

Nemont
 
I take it nobody has determined who selects the FBI director yet ?


The FBI are not supposed to investigate crooks with business interests in Russia because that's an invasion of privacy. but they should hassle the chit out of gun loving kids in MAGA hats that haven't broken the law.

If I didn't know better I'd think someone is grasping.




























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> I take it nobody has
>determined who selects the FBI
>director yet ?
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The Obama leftovers ,there is a few belonging to the Holder agenda "we are a Nation of Cowards"
 
https://nypost.com/2018/02/26/broward-sheriffs-excuses-are-just-obscene/

The Broward County Sheriff agree with Trump's Dumb Stooges, it wasn't his fault. It must be the FBI's

The Broward County Sheriff's dept got two tips going back to 2016 that Cruz was a crazy and a potential school shooter. Dang FBI should have acted on that too I suppose.



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What were these warnings? In 2016, a caller to the sheriff?s office said the perpetrator ?planned to shoot up a school.? More recently, on Nov. 30, a caller told the sheriff?s office that the shooter was amassing weapons and ?could be a school shooter in the making.?

The motto is that when we see something, we should say something. In the case of the Parkland shooter, people said something, over and over again, to little or no effect. The clich? after disasters is that no one ?connected the dots.? In the case of the Parkland shooter, the dots were connected with bright lines.
 
I'd lay this at the feet of the PROMISE agreement mainly. Might wanna read up on it, nobody wants to talk about it.


#livelikezac
 
You got to love the pictures of the sheriff with Hillary, Biden, Sanders, Holder and other pussyfied liberals. Just like da Sheriff.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-27-18 AT 12:19PM (MST)[p]This is what I stated in a previous post.
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The locals screwed up big also and that Sheriff's Dept. seems to have some severe training issues. There also seems to be a lot of pressure has been put on the local law enforcement not to take people in to custody for mental issues. Did the sheriff foster this policy, or was it fostered by the county supervisors that control the purse strings for the sheriff's dept.
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There is plenty of blame for all agencies involved, local as well as Federal. Still does not excuse the FBI for failing to do their followup no matter how much Nemont thinks they should be allowed to walk away from any blame.

RELH
 

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