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Ryan Zinke wrong that gas prices are down 40% under Trump
By Louis Jacobson on Monday, February 26th, 2018 at 5:29 p.m.


Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke addressed the conservative CPAC conference on Feb. 23. We checked one of his statements.
Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke touted the Trump administration?s efforts on reducing gasoline prices and, in the process, beefing up Americans? disposable income.

"As good as the tax bill is, when America pulls up to a pump, and they fill their car up, under the previous administration it was 2 bucks, 4 bucks, 6 bucks, $100 to fill a car," Zinke said at the conservative CPAC conference on Feb. 23. "American energy has delivered. Now it's $60. That's $40 you have in your pocket ? every American that would fill up at a pump station ? that you wouldn't have." (The comment is around the 7:20 mark in this C-SPAN video.) https://www.c-span.org/video/?44147...cal-action-conference-secretaries-perry-zinke

Have gas prices fallen?

It's possible to come up with a 40 percent decline ? but the decline came under President Barack Obama, not President Donald Trump.

According to the federal Energy Information Administration, the peak gasoline price under Obama was $3.96 a gallon in mid May 2011. The low price under Trump was $2.33 ? the week he was inaugurated in 2017.

That's a 40 percent decline, but the drop came entirely on Obama?s watch.

For the final two and a half years of Obama?s tenure, the average gallon of gas went no higher than $3.50. It hit a low of $1.73 in February 2016, lower than at any point in the Trump presidency.

Under Trump, the price at the pump has trended upward. From $2.33 at Trump?s inauguration, it rose to $2.56 in mid February 2018. That's an increase of almost 10 percent.

Did Trump?s pro-resource development policies make a difference?
Probably not on gasoline prices so far, experts say.

Most of the ramp-up in oil production that benefited consumer prices occurred during what critics have derided as Obama's "war on fossil fuels," said Severin Borenstein, a professor of business administration and public policy at the University of California-Berkeley's Haas School of Business.

He added that Trump policies on drilling may make a difference going forward. "To the extent that looser environmental regulations allow greater oil production in the future, that will increase downward pressure on oil prices, and gasoline prices," Borenstein said.

Still, the future price drops from Trump policies may not be massive. "Increased oil production in the United States has put some downward pressure on crude prices, though that is hardly the only factor in the decline of gasoline prices," he said.

The Interior Department did not get back to us.

Our ruling
Zinke said, "Under the previous administration it was ? $100 to fill a car. American energy has delivered. Now it's $60. That's $40 you have in your pocket ? that you wouldn't have."

The only 40 percent drop in the recent data occurred on Obama?s watch, meaning that Trump?s policies couldn't have influenced it. On Trump?s watch, the price of gasoline has actually risen by 10 percent.

We rate the statement False.
 
Due to different regulations, meaning less regulations, gas should fall in the near future as new drilling gets going, getting it refined and out the door to the customer.

Only problem here in CA. Democrats hiked up the gas taxes and the second part of the tax hike will hit after the November elections. I wonder why then??????

RELH
 
>http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...inke-wrong-gas-prices-are-down-40-under-trum/
>
>Ryan Zinke wrong that gas prices
>are down 40% under Trump
>
>By Louis Jacobson on Monday, February
>26th, 2018 at 5:29 p.m.
>
>
>
>Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke addressed the
>conservative CPAC conference on Feb.
>23. We checked one of
>his statements.
>Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke touted the
>Trump administration?s efforts on reducing
>gasoline prices and, in the
>process, beefing up Americans? disposable
>income.
>
>"As good as the tax bill
>is, when America pulls up
>to a pump, and they
>fill their car up, under
>the previous administration it was
>2 bucks, 4 bucks, 6
>bucks, $100 to fill a
>car," Zinke said at the
>conservative CPAC conference on Feb.
>23. "American energy has delivered.
>Now it's $60. That's $40
>you have in your pocket
>? every American that would
>fill up at a pump
>station ? that you wouldn't
>have." (The comment is around
>the 7:20 mark in this
>C-SPAN video.) https://www.c-span.org/video/?44147...cal-action-conference-secretaries-perry-zinke
>
>Have gas prices fallen?
>
>It's possible to come up with
>a 40 percent decline ?
>but the decline came under
>President Barack Obama, not President
>Donald Trump.
>
>According to the federal Energy Information
>Administration, the peak gasoline price
>under Obama was $3.96 a
>gallon in mid May 2011.
>The low price under Trump
>was $2.33 ? the week
>he was inaugurated in 2017.
>
>
>That's a 40 percent decline, but
>the drop came entirely on
>Obama?s watch.
>
>For the final two and a
>half years of Obama?s tenure,
>the average gallon of gas
>went no higher than $3.50.
>It hit a low of
>$1.73 in February 2016, lower
>than at any point in
>the Trump presidency.
>
>Under Trump, the price at the
>pump has trended upward. From
>$2.33 at Trump?s inauguration, it
>rose to $2.56 in mid
>February 2018. That's an increase
>of almost 10 percent.
>
>Did Trump?s pro-resource development policies make
>a difference?
>Probably not on gasoline prices so
>far, experts say.
>
>Most of the ramp-up in oil
>production that benefited consumer prices
>occurred during what critics have
>derided as Obama's "war on
>fossil fuels," said Severin Borenstein,
>a professor of business administration
>and public policy at the
>University of California-Berkeley's Haas School
>of Business.
>
>He added that Trump policies on
>drilling may make a difference
>going forward. "To the extent
>that looser environmental regulations allow
>greater oil production in the
>future, that will increase downward
>pressure on oil prices, and
>gasoline prices," Borenstein said.
>
>Still, the future price drops from
>Trump policies may not be
>massive. "Increased oil production in
>the United States has put
>some downward pressure on crude
>prices, though that is hardly
>the only factor in the
>decline of gasoline prices," he
>said.
>
>The Interior Department did not get
>back to us.
>
>Our ruling
>Zinke said, "Under the previous administration
>it was ? $100 to
>fill a car. American energy
>has delivered. Now it's $60.
>That's $40 you have in
>your pocket ? that you
>wouldn't have."
>
>The only 40 percent drop in
>the recent data occurred on
>Obama?s watch, meaning that Trump?s
>policies couldn't have influenced it.
>On Trump?s watch, the price
>of gasoline has actually risen
>by 10 percent.
>
>We rate the statement False.
Governor Brown Trumps Trump.
 
>This post was not about the
>price of gas. It was
>about the inability to tell
>the truth.
Yes it was
 
>>This post was not about the
>>price of gas. It was
>>about the inability to tell
>>the truth.
>Yes it was

Being MY post I can assure you it was not.


Was what Mr Zinke said about the price of gas true?
 
>>>This post was not about the
>>>price of gas. It was
>>>about the inability to tell
>>>the truth.
>>Yes it was
>
>Being MY post I can assure
>you it was not.
>
>
>Was what Mr Zinke said about
>the price of gas true?
>
Yes and no
 
>>>>This post was not about the
>>>>price of gas. It was
>>>>about the inability to tell
>>>>the truth.
>>>Yes it was
>>
>>Being MY post I can assure
>>you it was not.
>>
>>
>>Was what Mr Zinke said about
>>the price of gas true?
>>
>
>
> Yes and no
>

Please explain
 
What he said is not true, especially at the end of the Obama regime.

The progressive liberal environmental agenda was to regulate until supply got so low that gas prices were supposed to go to about $10/gallon, forcing people to use less, thus saving the planet.

What they didn't count on was the new technology of fracking, or the discovery of new oil in the Dakotas on private ground. They must be devastated. Their utopia dream disappeared under a geyser of cheap oil.

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>What he said is not true,
>especially at the end of
>the Obama regime.
>


Thank you eel. At least you are honest about his statement. The price of gas, up or down, is less important to me right now than Zinkes dishonesty.
 
No question it was a lie. How many dead Americans was he attempting to cover up with it?


#livelikezac
 
100000 Pennsylvania residents illegally registered to vote and this is our biggest concern?


#livelikezac
 
Not to defend Zinke's statement, but being a high up government employee, he probably hasn't been to the pump in many years, or at least noticed or cared about the price of gas. They live in another world.

97172deliverancebanjo.jpg
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-18 AT 11:32AM (MST)[p]If that is true then how would he know if the price was up or down?

Didn't Zinke spend 3 months traveling all over Montana in motor home? Pretty sure it had to stop for fuel every day.

Nemont
 
>
>No question it was a lie.
>How many dead Americans was
>he attempting to cover up
>with it?
>

>
>100000 Pennsylvania residents
>illegally registered to
>vote and this is our
>biggest concern?
>


Quick! Look over there!!! Nothing to see here!

"But, but ,but...it's not fair! Suzie told a bigger lie than Johnnie so Johnnie's lies don't count!"

C'mon DW, I expect better from you. Clearly, honesty from this administration is not your biggest concern. Hillary can hang from a tall tree for all I care. Never voted for her, never will. That's not what this conversation is about. I guess we could start a thread about that if you want and then people could say Trump (or insert the name of a republican of your choice) lied about this or that. It would be kinda like the previous 8 years.

I just believe this administration is doing its best to develop as much of my public lands as they can in the name of energy to line the pockets of their friends. They are doing this with absolutely no regard for wildlife, habitat, recreation, hunting, fishing or any of the other important activities on those lands. And in order to make it happen they are willing to tell lies like this one to keep their base supporting them. As a hunter this should at least be on your list of concerns.
 
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-18
>AT 11:32?AM (MST)

>
>If that is true then how
>would he know if the
>price was up or down?
>
>
>Didn't Zinke spend 3 months
>traveling all over Montana in
>motor home? Pretty
>sure it had to stop
>for fuel every day.
>
>Nemont

He wouldn't know if the price was up or down. I'm sure the motor home used a government credit card, so he never paid any attention to the price. He was probably playing on his phone at gas stops. Why should he care? But he should have asked someone before opening his pie hole. He did look like an idiot...but do we really expect anything different from a politician? There's a reason he is one.




97172deliverancebanjo.jpg
 
>Can anyone here please tell me
>what politician does not lie
>? Just one ,
>please tell me who that
>person is.


Probably about the same percentage as there are taxpayers and voters who don't lie.
 
>>
>>No question it was a lie.
>>How many dead Americans was
>>he attempting to cover up
>>with it?
>>
>
>>
>>100000 Pennsylvania residents
>>illegally registered to
>>vote and this is our
>>biggest concern?
>>
>
>
>Quick! Look over there!!! Nothing to
>see here!
>
>"But, but ,but...it's not fair! Suzie
>told a bigger lie than
>Johnnie so Johnnie's lies don't
>count!"
>
>C'mon DW, I expect better from
>you. Clearly, honesty from this
>administration is not your biggest
>concern. Hillary can hang from
>a tall tree for all
>I care. Never voted for
>her, never will. That's not
>what this conversation is about.
>I guess we could start
>a thread about that if
>you want and then people
>could say Trump (or insert
>the name of a republican
>of your choice) lied about
>this or that. It would
>be kinda like the previous
>8 years.
>
>I just believe this administration is
>doing its best to develop
>as much of my public
>lands as they can in
>the name of energy to
>line the pockets of their
>friends. They are doing this
>with absolutely no regard for
>wildlife, habitat, recreation, hunting, fishing
>or any of the other
>important activities on those lands.
>And in order to make
>it happen they are willing
>to tell lies like this
>one to keep their base
>supporting them. As a hunter
>this should at least be
>on your list of concerns.
>

Do you know what CPAC is? It's basically a pepfest for conservatives. Do you know what a pepfest is? Your pic makes me wonder. Ever stood in front of the whole school assembly and told them you were going to kick your rivals ass Friday night knowing you were gonna be in the fight of your life? How many of your acres have been developed for nrg this past year? So he missed when the price dropped but he didn't miss why it dropped, fracking, which took place on private ground. It amuses me this is the hill yer gonna pound your flag pole in. You really gotta stop watchin the Clinton News Network.


#livelikezac
 
>>
>
>Do you know what CPAC is?
>It's basically a pepfest for
>conservatives. Do you know what
>a pepfest is? Your pic
>makes me wonder.

My picture makes you wonder? I'm crushed.



>Ever stood
>in front of the whole
>school assembly and told them
>you were going to kick
>your rivals ass Friday night
>knowing you were gonna be
>in the fight of your
>life?


No I was usually making time with the girlfriends of the team captains that were leading the pepfest. But that question does clear up some questions I've had.


>How many of your
>acres have been developed for
>nrg this past year?


My acres? All the ones that were on public land. But are just think how much energy we could produce if those pesky public lands were privatized. Hmmm...


So
>he missed when the price
>dropped but he didn't miss
>why it dropped, fracking, which
>took place on private ground.


No, he missed which president the prices dropped under. But he's taking credit for it. Zinke and Trump had nothing to do with fracking on private land or energy dominance prior to 2017. But again... think about all those public lands that could be privatized...




> It amuses me this
>is the hill yer gonna
>pound your flag pole in.
>You really gotta stop watchin
>the Clinton News Network.
>
>

Here's a news flash for you... again. This is the fugging internet. I'm not pounding my pole in any hill here. But you sure are. I dont give a crap what sport hes pepfesting for, he lacks integrity. That doesnt seem to bother you. But once again you got your thong in a knot and started playing "she started it" because I criticized your team.
 
>>>
>>
>>Do you know what CPAC is?
>>It's basically a pepfest for
>>conservatives. Do you know what
>>a pepfest is? Your pic
>>makes me wonder.
>
>My picture makes you wonder? I'm
>crushed.
>
>
>
>>Ever stood
>>in front of the whole
>>school assembly and told them
>>you were going to kick
>>your rivals ass Friday night
>>knowing you were gonna be
>>in the fight of your
>>life?
>
>
>No I was usually making time
>with the girlfriends of the
>team captains that were leading
>the pepfest. But that question
>does clear up some questions
>I've had.
>
>
>>How many of your
>>acres have been developed for
>>nrg this past year?
>
>
>My acres? All the ones that
>were on public land. But
>are just think how much
>energy we could produce if
>those pesky public lands were
>privatized. Hmmm...
>
>
>So
>>he missed when the price
>>dropped but he didn't miss
>>why it dropped, fracking, which
>>took place on private ground.
>
>
>No, he missed which president the
>prices dropped under. But he's
>taking credit for it. Zinke
>and Trump had nothing to
>do with fracking on private
>land or energy dominance prior
>to 2017. But again... think
>about all those public lands
>that could be privatized...
>
>
>
>
>> It amuses me this
>>is the hill yer gonna
>>pound your flag pole in.
>>You really gotta stop watchin
>>the Clinton News Network.
>>
>>
>
>Here's a news flash for you...
>again. This is the fugging
>internet. I'm not pounding my
>pole in any hill here.
>But you sure are. I
>dont give a crap what
>sport hes pepfesting for, he
>lacks integrity. That doesnt seem
>to bother you. But once
>again you got your thong
>in a knot and started
>playing "she started it" because
>I criticized your team.

Maybe I just needed to say it in lennies native tongue, it's a f'ng CPAC speech, BFD.

#livelikezac
 

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