DUDE IT IS COMING

RELH

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Dude your liberals have gone further then CA. They are including all semi auto pistols, THAT CAN ACCEPT A TEN ROUND MAGAZINE, and some semi auto shotguns as being "ASSAULT WEAPONS" AND TO BE BANNED. Rifles will include hunting semi auto rifles like the Rem. 740 &7400, the browning BAR because you can get after market high cap mags for them.
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John Crump writes [via ammoland.com]: Ever since the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida the anti-gun groups have been out in force to try to strip people of their god given right of self-defense.

They have paraded many student pawns out on that national stage to promote their gun control agenda. They have been using emotions as their facts to try to persuade the public to give up their rights.


Not only is this Astroturf campaign going on at a national level, but it is also going on at the state level. One of the places we see gun control being pushed is in Oregon. An interfaith group has submitted a ballot initiative petition that, according to them, would prevent mass shootings.

What Initiative Petition 43 would do is ban most semiautomatic rifles and nearly all pistols.

The initiative states any rifle capable of accepting a magazine and one of the other cosmetic features listed in the initiative would be banned and labeled an ?assault weapon.? Also, if the rifle is less than 30 inches, it would be considered an ?assault weapon.?

Any pistol that is capable of accepting a magazine that holds more than ten rounds would be an ?assault weapon.? This initiative would ban virtually every semiautomatic pistol since all can take a magazine that holds more than ten rounds.

It will not matter if the owner has a magazine over ten rounds. Just the fact that the pistol is capable of using a larger magazine would be enough to ban them.

All magazines that hold over ten rounds would also be banned. The initiative refers to these magazines as ?high capacity.? The group seems to have borrowed text from a similar bill (H.R.5087) that was introduced in US House of Representatives by Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I). We have also seen similar measures with the word for word same language pop up in other states such as the bill introduced in Minnesota by Rep Linda Slocum.

The initiative would also ban most semiautomatic shotguns. The initiative would ban any semiautomatic shotgun that holds more than ten rounds or takes an external magazine. Any shotgun with a pistol grip or without a fixed stock would also be banned.

Residents would have 120 days to transfer their firearms out of the state, turn them over to police, or register their guns. Residents who don't get rid of or register their guns would be committing a felony. There is no word on how police would enforce the law.
 
The idiotic democrats are painting them selves into a corner. Give them enough rope and they will commit political suicide. Federal law will stand as the supreme law of the land. I see a lot of posturing and smoke blowing. Not that at some point in the future will there be a ban. This is just a momentum rollout.
Can't wait for that earthquake that will swallow up California. I say good riddance.


Take 2 paddles when you are up the creek.
 
So I guess they gave up on protecting school children, as just too tough a nut to crack. They've decided it's okay as long as you don't shoot more than 10 at a time.

Fixed it.

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An assault weapon? means any:
(A) Semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has at least
one of the following:
(i) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock or any other stock,
the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;
(ii) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non- trigger hand;
(iii) A folding or telescoping stock;
(iv) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
(v) A forward pistol grip;
(vi) A flash suppressor, muzzle brake, muzzle compensator, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, muzzle brake, or muzzle compensator;
(vii) A bayonet mount; or
(viii) A grenade launcher or flare launcher;


That just about covers them all. Even those non scary ones like the M1 A, M1 carbine, mini 14. They should change that "at least one of the following" part.
 
In a previous post a while back I told Dude they will get around to going after his shotguns by declaring semi auto shotguns as a "assault weapon". I believe Dude bragged about his Benelli shotgun.
if they use the same nomenclature for the shotguns being banned due to accepting more then ten rounds, all semi auto shotgun are up for grabs. There is aftermarket extended magazine tubes for numerous brands of semi auto shotguns that are 22 inches in length and will hold 9 rounds of 2-3/4 inch length shotgun shells.

There is now short shotgun shells on the market and that 22 inch mag tube will hold 11 of those short shells.

If it passes in Oregon, the NRA will step in and get a injunction until it can be decided in a higher court like they did here in CA. with the outright ban on magazines holding more then ten rounds and must be surrendered to law enforcement.
Funny part is dude will ride the coattails of NRA members to protect his guns since Dude hates the NRA.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-29-18 AT 12:03PM (MST)[p]I made an error on the rifles and high capacity mags. It should read any semi auto rifle that can accept a mag that is more then 10 rounds, not 10 rounds.
So any semi auto hunting rifle, that after market high cap mags have been made for will be banned as a assault rifle. There goes the Rem. 740, 7400, Browning BAR, Ruger mini 14 and mini 30 Springfield M1A1 that is used for high power shooting matches.
Just about all semi auto pistols will be banned and required to be surrender to law enforcement or moved out of state. Possible violation of 4th. amendment for unlawful seizure since no provision was made to compensate the owner for the value of the item that was once legal to possess.

RELH
 
Yawn....whatever.

Are jesus freaks liberals normally ? this should have you more worried than me. when the Christian right takes up gun control you're screwed rambo. that's who is behind this.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/st...s-require-owners-surrender-weapons/444530002/


This is going nowhere fast. if it were an actual assault rifle ban I'd sign it myself. it's just a poorly written bunch of crap that will go down in flames . want to bet on it ?



















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
> Yawn....whatever.
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>you more worried than me.
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>takes up gun control you're
>screwed rambo. that's
>who is behind this.
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>it ?
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Didn?t take you long to get everything buried did it.
 
>RELH, all fake conservatives hate the
>NRA. That includes NeMont.
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Fake conservatives are Trump's Dumb Stooges who worship at the throne of higher debt, more spending and continue to take with both hands from medicare.

The NRA has nothing to do with being conservative. It is a multi level marketing machine, designed to keep the easily fooled and tin foil hat wearers supplied with mesh Trucker hats, tote bags and NRA window stickers. Ole Wayne laughs his @ss every time another one of you coughs up another $35 worth of your hard earned money even though you are a paid up life member. PT Barnum was right.

Nemont



Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Yes this bill will get shot down but a storm is brewing and the good honest folks will lose. It is jokers like oocho, nemont and others on this site that are more concerned about there persanol agenda than what this country is founded on.
If you do not think we have already lost the first Amendment just take a look at what is happening to Laura Ingraham right now and the boycott against her show for stating facts about David Hogg one of the drivers of this kid movement against guns. It has happened over and over again against anyone that states anything against the left wing agenda (guns, black lives matters, equal rights for women) Religion in this country is treated as a joke no respect from the left wing agenda. In the Government it is OK to not be religious or even held at high esteem but do not dare state you believe God and Jesus. The storm is coming and this Constitution will be truly hanging by a thread when it is over.
 
>Yes this bill will get shot
>down but a storm is
>brewing and the good honest
>folks will lose. It is
>jokers like oocho, nemont and
>others on this site that
>are more concerned about there
>persanol agenda than what this
>country is founded on.

notdonwhining,

Total BS about me but if it makes you better to lie and make shyt up you are in good company here on mm.com and the Trump's Dumb Stooges show.

If it was about my "persanol" agenda I would be cheering Trump as he borrows and spends Trillions and Trillions. Idiots can see the forest for the trees and are too intellectually dishonest to admit the truth.

As for Laura Ingraham's getting boycotted, that is a perfect example of what the 1st Amendment actually protects. All Americans, even nonchristians, have rights in this country. Anyone is free to call for a boycott of anyone else.

Where do you get the lie that you don't dare state you believe in God and Jesus if you are in Government? Seems like Mike Pence, you know the VP states it, Trump states it after he gets done with his Twitter rampages.

You sound like the perfect NRA/NeoChristian stooge that would vote for Trump if he slept with your wife, you would say it was her fault.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
>against anyone that states
>anything against the
>left wing agenda (...
> equal rights for
>women)


Equal rights for women is a left wing agenda? How dare they! OK Warren
 
>Trump if he slept with
>your wife, you would say
>it was her fault.
>
>Nemont



So you're saying you're the type that blames the dude? That's about right I guess.

#livelikezac
 
>>Yes this bill will get shot
>>down but a storm is
>>brewing and the good honest
>>folks will lose. It is
>>jokers like oocho, nemont and
>>others on this site that
>>are more concerned about there
>>persanol agenda than what this
>>country is founded on.
>
>notdonwhining,
>
>Total BS about me but if
>it makes you better to
>lie and make shyt up
>you are in good company
>here on mm.com and the
>Trump's Dumb Stooges show.
>
>If it was about my "persanol"
>agenda I would be cheering
>Trump as he borrows and
>spends Trillions and Trillions.
> Idiots can see the
>forest for the trees and
>are too intellectually dishonest to
>admit the truth.
>
>As for Laura Ingraham's getting boycotted,
>that is a perfect example
>of what the 1st Amendment
>actually protects. All
>Americans, even nonchristians, have rights
>in this country. Anyone
>is free to call for
>a boycott of anyone else.
>
>
>Where do you get the lie
>that you don't dare state
>you believe in God and
>Jesus if you are in
>Government? Seems like
>Mike Pence, you know the
>VP states it, Trump states
>it after he gets done
>with his Twitter rampages.
>
>You sound like the perfect NRA/NeoChristian
>stooge that would vote for
>Trump if he slept with
>your wife, you would say
>it was her fault.
>
>Nemont
>
>Government is like a baby. An
>alimentary canal with a big
>appetite at one end and
>no responsibility at the other.
>

"WoW" I think I hit a nerve!
 
No nerve at all just setting a liar straight. Like I said you are I'm good company here.

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Yes the way the left is using the women rights it is a left wing tool. They do not stand up for Conservative women when they are attacked Laura Ingraham was called a dog faced animal and a filthy pig by an Actor Michael Rapaport. No the left can not stand up for her she was pointing out facts about there darling mouth piece David Hogg how about Sara Palin or Michelle Bachman if the left was truly for women's rights they would stand up for all women.
At least Lets be honest
 
Ok, great! So let's be honest. How many women has Trump degraded? Called them names etc. And how many conservatives stood up for them?
 
No I get the hypocrisy. The thing is, being a hypocrite to or about someone who is a hypocrite doesn't cancel out the first. Here we go again with the "he started it" argument. When your guy lives in a glass house you shouldn't start a rock fight on his doorstep.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-30-18 AT 02:19PM (MST)[p]When did the Republicans start dividing people proclaiming who they were the party of?


#livelikezac
 
I am not standing up for President Trump he will have to do that for himself some day. I am not a Trump supporter i support my President that is it i will defend him when he makes good decisions (Neil Gorsuch) and criticize him when i believe he is wrong (New budget) The problem with the left is they can not ever seem to admit when they are wrong it is just someone else fault (blame Bush)
Nemont you are right it is the power of the first Amendment to protest but it is not part of the first Amendment to use it as a weapon. When someone says something about you that is true or just gives opinion that is not illegal or slander does not give you the right under the first Amendment to destroy there business.
Keep it honest
 
NOTdon,
And I don't support Hillary or 99% of the other liberal agenda. But almost every single word you have posted here in your last few posts could be said about both parties. Step back and listen to yourself. Lets play a game:

"The problem with the left is they can not ever seem to admit when they are wrong it is just someone else fault (blame Bush)"

The problem with the [font color="red"]right[/font color="red"] is they can not ever seem to admit when they are wrong it is just someone else fault (blame [font color="red"]Obama or Clinton or Comey or...[/font color="red"])

Nobody admits when they are wrong. Switch the words and take a look at what you are saying.
 
>NOTdon,
>And I don't support Hillary or
>99% of the other liberal
>agenda. But almost every single
>word you have posted here
>in your last few posts
>could be said about both
>parties. Step back and listen
>to yourself. Lets play a
>game:
>
>"The problem with the left is
>they can not ever seem
>to admit when they are
>wrong it is just someone
>else fault (blame Bush)"
>
>The problem with the [font color="red"]right[/font
>color="red"] is they can not
>ever seem to admit when
>they are wrong it is
>just someone else fault (blame
>[font color="red"]Obama or Clinton or
>Comey or...[/font color="red"])
>
>Nobody admits when they are wrong.
>Switch the words and take
>a look at what you
>are saying.
and the answer is ??????
 
I admit the budget is a bad deal do not say i wont admit when the Repubs are wrong when i have time i will give you a hole list i do not agree with and growing every day. NVBighorn you probably are right you dont agree with 99% of the left agenda that is what puzzles me why you attack so many traditional ideas.
But that is what makes politics politics we all have a opinion.As for Nemont and ocho and cornhusker i just think some opinions are more dangerous than others.
 
I know for a fact some opinions are more dangerous. Like that we all have put God and Jesus into everything.

How is that you believe Laura Ingraham should be free of consequence from her sponsors if she does or says something that they disagree with?



Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
I am glad to see the mighty Ocho can finally join in the one and only sultan of negative the great of nothing. Ocho where have you been we needed to hear from someone that has nothing good to say welcome please come up with more of your meaninglessness crap and enlighten us.
 
Hmmm...he could be Stoney? maybe that is why I figured him for another lying Trumpette. That would make for some great fun if it is true.

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
I live in Oregon will not be surprized if this passes they got rid of hounds and baiting bears. Its a pretty liberal state now
 
>I live in Oregon will not
>be surprized if this passes
>they got rid of hounds
>and baiting bears. Its a
>pretty liberal state now

Better tell lennie, he road the short bus!


#livelikezac
 
I am diffently not stoney.
nemont and ocho can not debate facts they attack and try to give you quite.
The definition of a fascist
A follower of a political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and strong central goverment and no tolerance for opposing opinions forcible suppression of opposition.
 
>I am diffently not stoney.
>nemont and ocho can not debate
>facts they attack and try
>to give you quite.
>The definition of a fascist
>A follower of a political philosophy
>characterized by authoritarian views and
>strong central goverment and no
>tolerance for opposing opinions forcible
>suppression of opposition.

How about this: state some facts and let's debate them. So far all you got is a victims attitude.

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 

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