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Seattle police legally seizing guns under 'red flag' law


SEATTLE ? Alexander Mckenzie, a 31-year-old Army veteran who, according to court documents, is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder, recently had his gun confiscated by the Seattle Police Department even though he had committed no crime.


It's one of 27 guns seized legally by the Seattle Police Department from 16 individuals since last July under Washington State?s new Extreme Risk Protection Order law.

McKenzie had been acting strange, glaring at customers of a pizza restaurant while carrying his handgun. He now agrees with the firearm seizure.


?I'm grateful that the police got the gun away from me,? McKenzie told Fox News.

Washington is one of six states with high risk or red flag laws. But in the wake of the Parkland school shooting, the Brady Campaign says at least 30 states are considering them.

?I think we're seeing a building consensus in blue states and red states that this is a good way to balance public safety against people?s Second Amendment rights,? said Jaron Lindbaum of Washington Ceasefire.


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A judge determines if the person is a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued, the guns can be seized immediately, but the gun owner gets to make his or her case in court within two weeks.

Guns are removed for one year, but there is due process. Only family, roommates and police can petition the court for the civil order. The burden of proof is on the petitioner. A judge determines if the person is a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued, the guns can be seized immediately, but the gun owner gets to make his or her case in court within two weeks.

Even gun rights advocates, who are afraid of government abuse, say it appears to be working.

?We?ve seen the downside of people who are distraught or crazy taking out their problems on the general public,? said Dave Workman of the Bellevue, Wash.-based Second Amendment Foundation. ?We don't want that to happen here.?

One petition to seize guns was turned down by a King County, Wash., judge. All others have been granted, including the taking of an AR-15 rifle. According to the pastors of the Cross and Crown Church in Seattle, a former member threatened to kill them and wished the recent church massacre in Sutherland Springs, Texas had happened there.

Law enforcement is convinced the law is saving lives.

?I have no doubt,? said King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, ?it is the kind of tool we can use to prevent greater tragedies.?
 
I don't have a problem with it. it sounds like common sense and it's a place to START.

But what will your NRA have to say ?























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Just Hand Your F'N Guns in & Get it over with!









It Ain't Easy being Me!:D:D:D
 
As I have stated before, I am for it as it is logical and should help. I would not be surprised if a lot of NRA members will support it and let the NRA know that this time there needs to be a compromise on their part.
The ones who will fight will be mental health workers and liberals who feel it is a invasion of privacy.

RELH
 
Laws like this have already passed in OR and WA. red states ?

You said NRA and compromise in the same sentence. that's funny.










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Dude there is about 30 states that are looking at possibly enacting red flag laws. Your state is working on banning all assault weapons that will include semi auto rifles, pistols, and shotguns. You better bet if it passes, the NRA comes to your rescue or you may have to hide you semi auto shotguns. Don't you remember a while back I said they will get around to semi auto shotguns since the military used them in every war since WW1.

You Poo Pooed that at as B.S. Guess your opinion was wring again.

RELH
 
My state is doing no such thing. some church freaks in Portland are trying to get a poorly written measure on the ballot. if they do it will fail. end of story.















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Dude the last I heard is that they have enough signatures to get it on the ballot for voting. Even a dumb idiot like you knows that your liberal lawmakers will be in full support of it. Also you better hope that your opinion of it not passing is not like your opinion of Hillary winning and that they would not go after shotguns in the future. You were wrong both times.

RELH
 
I' right far more than I'm wrong that's why I like to bet.

Do you want to bet the OR gun law passes ?














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Next they will take your guns when you go to marriage counseling, flip someone the bird on the highway for being on their cell phone, tell a Russian truck driver to FucOff, or go to the Dr for stress medication.
 
I said I'm right far more than I'm wrong old timer. you must agree, you'll NEVER bet against me.

This mean you won't bet on passage of the church freak gun law either I assume ?












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>Next they will take your guns
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Or post something on an internet forum. That's why I am surprised RELH can support this red flag movement, especially living in California where judges and everyone else are so liberal. Also when your president says take the guns and worry about due process later. I'm not saying this won't help or that it's totally a bad idea but who will be deciding to whom it applies worries me.
 
Here we go again. this judge is 100% correct and it's why your bullchit excuses and rants fall flat.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-judge-upholds-massachusetts-assault-weapons-ban-151358843.html


The supreme court has refused to rule so we DO NOT PHUKING KNOW . at some point they're going be forced to decide. that may be a day you would rather push off Rambo, be careful what you ask for.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-judge-upholds-massachusetts-assault-weapons-ban-151358843.html














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