Record tax revenue, blah, blah, blah

NeMont

NeMont

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Thought the clown show said those tax cuts would pay for themselves?

What gives? Or did you mean even with low unemployment and a good economy you still thought it was a good time to add trillions to the debt?

When will we see the tax cuts start to payoff?




https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...dividual-income-taxes-through-march-still-run

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
NeMont, did you miss the part where it says;

Feds Collect Record Individual Income Taxes Through March;

The tax cuts are paying for themselves.
The problem is record spending, not the tax cuts.
 
But remember that The "Wizard of Smarts" hates Trump because he lost the election. Poor LOSER. NE show some class and be a patriot you weakling sissy.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-18 AT 08:29AM (MST)[p]What a bunch of Dumb Stooges. Anaconda what will our deficit run during this fiscal year? If it is a spending problem then how come your hero just signed on to up both domestic discretionary welfare spending and military spending.

Are there no standards that conservatives hold any more? Or is lip service all you clowns can muster?


YBO,

You lie like elkass but you should at least attempt to show some conservative values. Tell me how pointing out that Trump is a douche equals hate?

How will you square it when our debt further explodes under Republican leadership or is that you just aren't a conservative?

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Every time we cut taxes the federal government makes record amounts of money because everyone is working, even dipshitz like Lennie. I'm sorry you're not bright enough to see the light!



#livelikezac
 
>Every time we cut taxes the
>federal government makes record amounts
>of money because everyone is
>working, even dipshitz like Lennie.
>I'm sorry you're not bright
>enough to see the light!
>
>
>
>
>#livelikezac

Then how do Trump's Dumb Stooges explain the huge spike in Tax revenue during the Obama years?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/15/feds-tax-take-hits-all-time-high/

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...xes-set-record-october-1459-worker-feds-still

Tax revenue doubled from Bush the administration to the Obama Administration. Explain how that happened if only one needs cuts to increase revenue. For you premise to be true wouldn't then the tax increases imposed during the Obama years reduce revenue over time?

In addition what good do tax cuts do if in the next month you increase spending faster than the tax revenue? Why are all the predictions for the return of Trillion deficits?

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Why do you hate allowing the American people to keep their Blood Sweat and Tears?




#livelikezac
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-18 AT 11:48AM (MST)[p]Different argument. You said only tax cuts produced record revenues. How come tax revenue doubled from Bush's 8 years to Obama's 8 years?

Now you got your tax cuts however the Republican led congress and White House just upped spending faster than revenue will come in.

Why are you in love with enslaving future generations?

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
I know, I know, I know. Because the local MMer, also known as The Wizard of Smarts is a progressive elitist who thinks he is a conservative.
 
Now I just feel terrible. I promise I'll either vote for a true conservative or just write Rand Paul in next time.

Boy, did I learn a lesson.

97172deliverancebanjo.jpg
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-18 AT 11:59AM (MST)[p]I am comfortable in my conservative bona fides so you are free to lie about what ever it is. I know for a fact that Trump voters sold out on fiscal discipline and don't give a phuk about their own blood. If that is your standard then have at it.

Trump counts on ya to keep letting him destroy the conservative movement for generations.

Nemont



Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-18 AT 11:55AM (MST)[p]>LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-18
>AT 11:48?AM (MST)
>
>Different argument. You said only
>tax cuts produced record revenues.
> How come tax revenue
>doubled from Bush's 8 years
>to Obama's 8 years?
>
>Now you got your tax cuts
>however the Republican led congress
>and White House just upped
>spending faster than revenue will
>come in.
>
>Why are you in love with
>enslaving future generations?
>
>Nemont
>
>
>Government is like a baby. An
>alimentary canal with a big
>appetite at one end and
>no responsibility at the other.
>

I never said "only" tax cuts produce record Revenue. And the answer to your other question is fracking. The other thing you hate.


#livelikezac
 
>Now I just feel terrible. I
>promise I'll either vote for
>a true conservative or just
>write Rand Paul in next
>time.
>
>Boy, did I learn a lesson.
>
>
>
97172deliverancebanjo.jpg


You are a Trump voter you are too stupid to vote for a conservative and like all of them you are too big of a coward to admit it.

Let the debt explode because Trump told you he was a conservative, that is the definition of stupid.


Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
DW,

Can you show me where I said anything negative about fracking?

When did you lose your honesty too? is there an honest Trump voter that can admit they got conned?

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
It's Official: Trump Tax Cuts Are Boosting Growth And Mostly Paying For Themselves

Taxes: When the Congressional Budget Office released its updated budget forecast, everyone focused on the deficit number. But buried in the report was the CBO's tacit admission that it vastly overestimated the cost of the Trump tax cuts, because it didn't account for the strong economic growth they would generate.

Among the many details in the report, the one reporters focused on was the CBO's forecast that the federal deficit would top $1 trillion in 2020, two years earlier than the CBO had previously said.
And, naturally, most news accounts blamed the tax cuts. "U.S. budget deficit to balloon on Republican tax cuts" is how Reuters put it in a headline.
But there's more to the story that the media overlooked.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...cuts-revenues-deficits-paying-for-themselves/
 
So Trillion dollar deficit are no BFD? What does it matter if they spend like drunken sailors? Do you count it a success if you have more revenue in a business but your expenses grew more?

Nemont

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
If it's all good why are the losers who passed the legislation in damage control mode ?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/u-republicans-eyeing-midterms-set-155217659.html


While it sucks that such stupid legislation was passed, it's encouraging to see a enough real conservatives still exist to make the morons worry about what they've done. no doubt this is part of why Ryan is hitting the road before chit blows up in his face.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>So Trillion dollar deficit are no
>BFD? What does it matter
>if they spend like drunken
>sailors? Do you count
>it a success if you
>have more revenue in a
>business but your expenses grew
>more?
>
>Nemont
>
>Government is like a baby. An
>alimentary canal with a big
>appetite at one end and
>no responsibility at the other.
>

Christ you like to twist chit! Yer OP was blaming the current deficits on the tax cuts, that's a bold-faced lie as everyone here has pointed out to you! No one on here has ever said trillion dollar deficits are okay! The tax cuts did not make the expenses grow as you imply, another bold-faced lie! You're beginning to past Lennie and head towards foreskin mentality. Slow down!


#livelikezac
 
>>So Trillion dollar deficit are no
>>BFD? What does it matter
>>if they spend like drunken
>>sailors? Do you count
>>it a success if you
>>have more revenue in a
>>business but your expenses grew
>>more?
>>
>>Nemont
>>
>>Government is like a baby. An
>>alimentary canal with a big
>>appetite at one end and
>>no responsibility at the other.
>>
>
>Christ you like to twist chit!
>Yer OP was blaming the
>current deficits on the tax
>cuts, that's a bold-faced lie
>as everyone here has pointed
>out to you! No one
>on here has ever said
>trillion dollar deficits are okay!
>The tax cuts did not
>make the expenses grow as
>you imply, another bold-faced lie!
>You're beginning to past Lennie
>and head towards foreskin mentality.
>Slow down!
>
>
>#livelikezac

+1
 
Are you saying the tax cuts are not fueling the deficit ? if so then prove it.

Where is the debt reduction your heroes ran on ? that is the heart of the debate.













Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
>
>Christ you like to twist chit!
>Yer OP was blaming the
>current deficits on the tax
>cuts, that's a bold-faced lie
>as everyone here has pointed
>out to you! No one
>on here has ever said
>trillion dollar deficits are okay!
>The tax cuts did not
>make the expenses grow as
>you imply, another bold-faced lie!
>You're beginning to past Lennie
>and head towards foreskin mentality.
>Slow down!
>
>
>#livelikezac

You need to stop getting your info from the Trump administration. The CBO and the FED both say you are 100% incorrect that the tax cuts pay for themselves.

https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2018/0...debt-to-historic-lev/?slreturn=20180313105355

Quote:
?The tax cuts passed last year actually added an amount to America?s long-run fiscal challenge that is roughly the same size as the pre-existing shortfalls in Social Security and Medicare.?

Those cuts made when ?the economy was already at or close to full employment ? turned economic logic on its head [and] this year?s bipartisan spending agreement contributed further to the ill-timed stimulus,? the authors write.

You can either pretend the tax cuts were good fiscal policy or you can go and look at the facts. I suspect you will continue to take the route of your main man and just make it up as you go to avoid dealing with facts.

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-18 AT 09:25AM (MST)[p]Your math skills suck! And I ask again why do you hate letting the American people keep their Blood Sweat and Tears so much?



#livelikezac
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-18 AT 09:36AM (MST)[p]I don't hate letting people keep their money. What I oppose is the theft from future generations in order to keep spending today. Your hero just signed two laws, one reduced federal revenue and the other increased spending. That is not a conservative ideal, to run up bills and refuse to pay your tab. That is a liberal idea of Robin Hood. Why are you supporting liberal fiscal policy?


Why do you love stealing from future Americans?

Have you even considered why Trump is so willing to increase deficits to Obama levels? In addition if you kabitched even once about Obama's deficits and debt and support Trump then you have not a single conservative core value on fiscal policy.

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-18 AT 09:55AM (MST)[p]It's the spending. You were upset Paul Ryan was leaving until I pointed out the fact that he gave the Omnibus spending Bill his Blessing. Why do you think I pointed this out? He was not a conservative, Trump is not a conservative as I said prior to the election. Which is why I continue to ask about your memory. I wish he would have vetoed the Omnibus Bill and shut down the government. He did not. I hang my hat on, and maybe this will make me look a Fool In The End, his statement that this will not happen again. If it happens again he won't get my vote next time. This clear chit up for you? Jog that short-term a little bit?



#livelikezac
 
Not all, my memory is fine.

You remember back when I explained that Trump will sell you out and you said he won't run up the debt like Obama?

You not only will look foolish, you will get to watch the end of any chance of a long and sustained conservative movement. The spending, the deficits and the debt are baked in the cake. Trump will continue to borrow and spend because that is all he knows.

Here is another one you can count on. If the dems pull off a blue wave, which I am not convinced of, Trump will be making deals with them and he will be giving stuff away like he is Bob Barker on the show case show down.

That clear anything up for you.

Nemont








Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
Everything has remained perfectly clear to me. I don't have libertarian colored glasses on.



#livelikezac
 
That is your problem your glasses are colored with an orange liberal haze.

Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 
What has GDP growth been in the last year? If it continues at 3% all of the CBO projections are out the door. The tax cuts stimulate business, the economy grows at 2-3 times what Obama had and the deficit gets reduced. It takes time to prove it but it will happen. He is already wanting to cancel parts of the omnibus bill so if he gets some support in Congress and cuts some fat things will also change.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-16-18 AT 10:25AM (MST)[p]

Glen,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/04/16/avoiding_a_debt_crisis_136804.html


Sure about that? What has happened to the price of oil? Gasoline? Interest rates? That is going to soak up a lot of economic growth because the FED doesn't want to much stimulus from tax cuts.

What does a single point raise in borrowing costs do to the Federal Budget for interest payments?


You realize that Trump made that Omnibus deal with congress and signed it into law, right?

He is going to lose seats in congress in Nov. So that spending he signed on to do is baked in the cake.


Nemont


Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
 

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