BISON SHOT PLACEMENT!!!

elkassassin · Jul 10, 2017

Just Figured I'd Post This!

Some Hunters Already Know!

And Some Don't!

If It Saves One Wasted Animal it'll be Worth it in My Eyes!

A Heart Shot on a Buffalo Almost Requires the Buffalo taking a Step Forward to Hit the Heart!

The Heart Sits Mighty Low on a Bison!

I've Heard alot of Stories over the Years of People Shooting them Numerous Times/And Usually Shooting Way Too High Only To Go on & Say How Tough they are!

Well They Are a Tough Animal!

But a Well Placed Shot Always Helps!

Hope this will Help Somebody Somewhere!

No I won't Be Hunting Bison this year!

But Best Of Luck to the Guys & Gals that are!

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eelgrass · Jul 10, 2017

Could have fooled me.

tx_packmule · Jul 10, 2017

I thought that's where everything was supposed to get shot. And just shoot them quartering and not worry about what their legs are doing?

2lumpy · Jul 10, 2017

Africa Hunting........ well, they'd know, 'I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Bwana!

DC

tx_packmule · Jul 10, 2017

That's a wooly Cape buffalo...they'd know.

Tristate · Jul 10, 2017

Shoot proper bullets and break his humerus and pierce his heart with the same blow. Three legged buff with no pumper kill even fewer hunters than four legged ones and no pumper.

DW · Jul 10, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-17 AT 11:12PM (MST)[p]I'm shooting a high powered rifle, give me some core lokts and I'll double lung em and enjoy the ribeyes as well as the shoulder roasts. No mammals live without air.

And the heart is one of the finest roasts on an ungulate.

Tristate · Jul 11, 2017

"No mammals live without air."

Please, for the sake of whatever professional hunter takes you, do not hunt dangerous game until you change that philosophy.

elkassassin · Jul 11, 2017

>LAST EDITED ON Jul-10-17
>AT 11:12?PM (MST)
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>I'm shooting a high powered rifle,
>give me some core lokts
>and I'll double lung em
>and enjoy the ribeyes as
>well as the shoulder roasts.
>No mammals live without air.
>
>
>And the heart is one of
>the finest roasts on an
>ungulate.

I Knew that was coming!

Don't Ruin the Vitals!

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Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
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wytex · Jul 11, 2017

My shot shattered the ball joint in the shoulder went through the ribs and lungs and ended up just under the skin on the opposite side. 1 shot harvest.
165 gr. Swift A Frame bullet lost about 40 grains going through the ball joint and two ribs.
While just a cow she went less than 30 yards and piled up, dead within 3 minutes.
Last year's spouse's cow was a lung shot and she went 150 yds and piled up hard, single shot kill.
My first cow bison was a neck shot that dropped her like a ton of bricks.
None of those 3 shots damaged much meat, even the ribs were salvageable and tasted great.
And the hearts went to a friend who loved them.

travishunter3006 · Jul 11, 2017

Hey elk,

Is this the shot you take after you kill and don't tag the other buffalo you just shot?

eelgrass · Jul 11, 2017

>"No mammals live without air."
>
>Please, for the sake of whatever
>professional hunter takes you, do
>not hunt dangerous game until
>you change that philosophy.

I don't think that's a philosophy. It's a fact of nature. It may not be the shot of choice on a charging lion or Cape buff, but still.

A bison is what we're talking about.

terriejohnston · Jul 11, 2017

I drew a tag in Montana last year and you shoot them in the ear will hit their brain and they will drop right away....

RELH · Jul 11, 2017

I have taken 3 bison with this shot. If you can get within 100 yards or less of the bison and have a rifle that will shoot 1 inch groups at that range. Pick a spot about 5 inches below the base of the ear, then move your aiming point about 6 inches towards the neck and shoot.

That shot will sever the neck spine just behind the skull and drop your bison in his tracks. Only use if you are sure you place the shot into that small area from your field shooting position.

RELH

elkassassin · Jul 11, 2017

>Hey elk,
>
>Is this the shot you take
>after you kill and don't
>tag the other buffalo you
>just shot?

LMAO!!!

I Haven't Shot a Bison Yet travis!

Not Even a Cow On Accident!

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Zeke · Jul 11, 2017

Yep, like cat says, keep the shots lower than you'd think but I'll side with DW. Blast 'em in the lights (lungs) and they're dead within short order! Loss of their air AND loss of blood does the trick every time.
Speaking of trick, why all the trick shots! Lord help us all and especially the dumb-azz who listens to them. Sure they'll work but the margins of error is minuscule! "I like to shoot 'em in the eyes so it blinds them and they run in circles and I can jump on them and cut their throat". But....who am I to correct anyone?
Curmudgeon and cantancerous tonight,
Zeke

1911 · Jul 11, 2017

>Hey elk,
>
>Is this the shot you take
>after you kill and don't
>tag the other buffalo you
>just shot?

With the proper bullet the first shot will vaporize the head.

elkassassin · Jul 12, 2017

Guess what I Shoulda Mentioned!

I Recommend The Shot For Wild Buffalo that You're gonna Put on your Wall!

Taxidermy Work is Gonna Be High Enough without adding to it by doing Head/Eye/and Trick Shots!

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elkassassin · Jul 12, 2017

>>Hey elk,
>>
>>Is this the shot you take
>>after you kill and don't
>>tag the other buffalo you
>>just shot?
>
>
>With the proper bullet the first
>shot will vaporize the head.
>
>
>

Does that Mean it Will Explode 1911?

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Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
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BrowningRage · Jul 12, 2017

Been on a Bison hunt in 2012. The biologist that was along for the hunt instructed both hunters to shoot the animal above the shoulder, a little forward along the spine, sort of in the neck.

The first hunter did this effectively and the animal dropped in its tracks. Severed spine, dead, not just paralyzed like a back spine shot.

The second hunter let his instincts to shoot the animal behind the shoulder take over. He made a nicely placed shot. The herd and his bull ran off and we watched for a long time as the bull stayed with the herd, bleeding heavily from his wound. Finally, we had to get close and make two more shots on the animal, both to the neck area mentioned earlier. Dead.

I wonder if this was just this one biologist, or if this is a common practice as these animals are well armored against typical lethal kill shots.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

Vanilla · Jul 12, 2017

I wish I had the predicament this year of trying to figure out where to place my shot on a bison.

A man can dream, right?

DW · Jul 12, 2017

>>I'm shooting a high powered rifle,
>>give me some core lokts
>>and I'll double lung em
>>and enjoy the ribeyes as
>>well as the shoulder roasts.
>>No mammals live without air.
>>
>>
>>And the heart is one of
>>the finest roasts on an
>>ungulate.
>
>
>
>I Knew that was coming!
>
>Don't Ruin the Vitals!

>

You can ruin the vitals just don't ruin the vittles!

sticksender · Jul 12, 2017

Arrowed a bull last month on the Kaibab. It was a broadside shot (or very slightly quartering away) with both front legs standing vertical. I kept the shot placement tight to the back edge of the facing leg, and about 1/3 of the way up the body. It passed through and broke the opposite humerus in half. He took about 5-6 hobbling steps and fell dead, from what appeared to be rapid blood loss. On skinning him I noticed there's a LOT of non-lethal territory in a bison's shoulder area, anywhere above mid-body. There's nothing but spinal process up there, that probably won't make for a lethal hit. I would say that low and tight to the shoulder is the way to go, whether bow or gun. A higher hit might still look good, even if it's 1/3 of the way down from the back-line, but is probably a non-lethal flesh wound. Just like a back-strap hit would be on an elk or deer.

elkassassin · Jul 12, 2017

>
>>>I'm shooting a high powered rifle,
>>>give me some core lokts
>>>and I'll double lung em
>>>and enjoy the ribeyes as
>>>well as the shoulder roasts.
>>>No mammals live without air.
>>>
>>>
>>>And the heart is one of
>>>the finest roasts on an
>>>ungulate.
>>
>>
>>
>>I Knew that was coming!
>>
>>Don't Ruin the Vitals!

>>
>
>
>You can ruin the vitals just
>don't ruin the vittles!

That's what I was Tryin to Say DW!

But My Spelling SUCKS!

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Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
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DW · Jul 12, 2017

>>
>>>>I'm shooting a high powered rifle,
>>>>give me some core lokts
>>>>and I'll double lung em
>>>>and enjoy the ribeyes as
>>>>well as the shoulder roasts.
>>>>No mammals live without air.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And the heart is one of
>>>>the finest roasts on an
>>>>ungulate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I Knew that was coming!
>>>
>>>Don't Ruin the Vitals!

>>>
>>
>>
>>You can ruin the vitals just
>>don't ruin the vittles!
>
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>That's what I was Tryin to
>Say DW!
>
>But My Spelling SUCKS!

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>[Font][Font color = "blue"]Ah yes we
>have insider trading and computer
>dating but I never goin
>for that!
>Ain't no machine pickin out my
>Queen cause it may not
>have all the facts!
>I've got my own taste and
>my own ways I'd rather
>not talk about
>and my private life is my
>private life and they ain't
>gonna find out!
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Lol!

projp · Jul 13, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Jul-13-17 AT 04:00PM (MST)[p]http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos_2017/11332buffalohunters2.jpg

BIGJOHNT · Jul 13, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Jul-13-17 AT 03:04PM (MST)[p]Well Bess making your shot . There will be no Bison heart fajitas. ?

This is what Taylor Albrecht did with my Bison heart.

I made a high lung shot and one quartering threw the front shoulder. We will see what my dad does this year. ?

BIGJOHNT · Jul 13, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Jul-13-17 AT 06:43PM (MST)[p]http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos_2017/96681img2612.jpg. Bison heart fajitas!!! I had a hard time loading up the two pictures on the first post.

CAelknuts · Jul 15, 2017

LAST EDITED ON Jul-15-17 AT 10:58AM (MST)[p]I've only shot a couple bison, but they impress me as being an incredibly tough animal. The first one was an 11 or 12 year old bull, a huge animal of about 2,100 pounds if I remember co rrectly. I was shooting a .338 with 225 grain trophy bonded bear claws. I shot the bull in the neck at about 75 yards and he went down like a ton of bricks... then got right back up and trotted off!

My 2nd shot was quartering away and I shot him very low in the chest, like shown in the photo. The bull didn't even flinch, but did turn around and headed back toward where he came from. Finally, I was able to break his neck and put him down for the count. On examination of the chest cavity, we noted the heart was destroyed, but the bull wasn't visibly affected at all.

My 2nd bison was a yearling bull that I shot with the same rifle and load. Hit the spine at base of skull and avoided the nonsense from the first bull. He was also a lot smaller, probably about a 1,000 pound or a bit more. Even at that, my half ton pickup went down the road looking like a Mexican low rider, I could barely steer as all the weight was on the rear axle.

*** with regard to the comments about shooting them in the lungs, no I don't agree with that on a buffalo or a bison. Yes, it'll kill them, eventually, but it'll take longer than you (or the Buffalo) wants to wait. I shot one of my Cape buffalo with a .375, through both lungs. The bull ran off like nothing happened and ended up in a very nasty thicket where visibility was measured in feet. By the time we finished that buff, probably 15 minutes had gone by. That was the last Buffalo I ever shot through the lungs on the first shot. Since then, it's only through the shoulders, both shoulders whenever possible. I've shot Cape buffalo with .375 H&H, .416 Hoffman, .458 Winchester and .470 nitro express. Big, heavy bullets from big guns THROUGH THE SHOULDERS are the ONLY way to go whenever possible. Still, they often require follow up shots.

Santana · Jul 21, 2017

Some of you may remember back in the day when Arizona Game and Fish managed their bison hunts more like bison shoots, and they recommended a shot behind the ear, when possible. At that time they would divide hunters into groups of three and a cowboy would push the three bison to be culled in front of the hunters at about 50 yards as I recall. The hunter with the low tag number got first choice, and so on. The idea here was a standing broadside shot at relatively close range, thus the head shot. It worked well when it worked, but in my case I was the third shot in my group and after seeing its companions drop 'my' bison had plans other than standing around waiting to be shot, but that's a story for another time. But let's just say one 180 gr Corelockt 30'06 did the job! As I recall, the AZGF hands used Model 94 30/30 as backup guns. Probably also shooting Corelockts. Go easy on me, Bess - remember we didn't have the bullet choice then that we do now!

jm77 · Jul 22, 2017

Just over 200yds, 1/4 up from brisket and tight to back of leg, dead in less than 10 seconds.

If you like shooting at a big bull bison more than once, shoot for the lungs.

257weatherby · Jul 27, 2017

I did alot of research on this subject last year for my buffalo hunt. My preference is behind the ear, good quality bullet and shot placement will do the job instantly. I shot my bull from 100 yards with a 257 Weatherby loaded with a 103 grain Hammer bullet. My story with pictures and video of the harvest can de found in the moose goats and sheep section of the forums, titled book cliffs buffalo. Here is a link [http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID8/6039.html]