Easy to setup tent w/stove

elks96

elks96

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So I have a huge wall tent 16x20 and it is great for a full week set up. But I am wanting something smaller and a lot easier to set up. I have a stove for the big tent. But I would like something smaller room for 4 people that is tight but doable.

Any thoughts?
 
I have the 13x27 alaknak tent for long outings so I understand your desire for something smaller. When it's just a couple of us or just a weekend trip I use the 10x14 Kodiak canvas tent from cabelas. Works great and set up time is 10 minutes.
 
>I have the 13x27 alaknak tent
>for long outings so I
>understand your desire for something
>smaller. When it's just a
>couple of us or just
>a weekend trip I use
>the 10x14 Kodiak canvas tent
>from cabelas. Works great and
>set up time is 10
>minutes.

What do you use to keep the tent warm? I really hate using the propane heaters.

Maybe a small generator and electric heater?
 
I bought a 12-12 Alaknak and use the same stove that I used in my 14-16 wall tent. 4 people is doable. It would be tight with the stove. Easy solo setup.
 
>I bought a 12-12 Alaknak and
>use the same stove that
>I used in my 14-16
>wall tent. 4 people is
>doable. It would be tight
>with the stove. Easy solo
>setup.
I have looked at the 12x12. I have a set of bunk cots for my kids.

Do you have the front fly? If so how much space does it add? I am really considering the 12x12. How big is it when all rolled up?
 
I use the 12 x 12 Alaknak with the Vestibule. I think it adds about 10 feet to store some of your gear out of the sleeping area. We have bunk bed cots to help. The tent and poles fit into a large duffle bag . The vestibule has its own bag.
 
Just set up 2 14x16 wall tents with woodburners by myself. No internal frame system. One I hung a ridge pole on screw in tree steps between two trees. The other I had 2 8' 2x4's 2-9' 2x4's and 2-3' 2x4's with 45's cut on the ends. 8's were the legs, 9's were the ridge, and the 3's were angle bracing. Screw it together with a cordless drill, get it positioned in the tent, stake 2 wall corner ropes, stand the frame almost all the way up, stake the 2 opposite corners and away you go. Im only 6' 200, should be a piece a cake for you. No better heat than wood heat. One of the tents was 3 miles from the road.


#livelikezac
 
I also have a 10x10 kodiak, says it sleeps 6, but 4 would be just right. Use a mr heater to keep it warm. Nice setup, fast and easy.
 
I have a question fullthrottle, if you don't mind.

My son has a 10x10 Kodiak as well, a wonderful tent. When it was nearly new, I borrowed it for a trip to the North Rim and we camped in the red dirt/sand desert. Setting it up went well enough, I took my shoes off and walked out on to the pretty white top, threaded the center poles through the hoops and ran the spring bars in the ends. No problem. On the day we planned to break camp and leave, it rain buckets and had red mud everywhere, before I got that thing down and loaded in the pick-up, I had tracked indelible red mud from one end to the other, on that beautiful white top. I worked for two days, back home, scrubbing, rinsing and wasting that thing, to get it clean. Never did. It still looks like an Anasazi lefted red ochre foot prints all over it.

The question is: how do you set yours up and take it down, without walking out on to it, to insert the bars?

Thanks
DC
 
Its a tent not your daughter-in laws living room :) I'd be proud of the foot prints and the memories of a great time. I have a white canvas wall tent 10x10 that never gets used except when the gr kids come to stay. It has lots of memories (stains) on it still.
 
Ha I hear you lumpy, spend quite a bit of time at lake Powell and red sand gets everywhere. I try to kneel on it as much as I can when setting it up, but my three little kids like to go in and out non stop. Guess I really don't have an answer for you. I try to keep it as clean as I can.
 
We've had the 12x12 alaknak with the stove for at least 10 years. It's been a dang good tent. Four people and all their gear is tight. We don't have the vestibule.
 
Thanks for the sympathy and understanding boys, you're a great comfort to my fragile ego.

The problem is I'm a bit of pig and all my stuff looks like someone held a beer party on it but when I borrow something of considerable worth from someone, especially my rather jaded son (jaded because I've been a little hard on other things of his I borrowed), I actually try to return things way I received them. I was really trying to salvage a historically tarnished reputation.

Another problem I have...... it's a horrible habit, and it's gotten worse since I've gotten older. I tend to over look the obvious. I was thinking, the entire time I was stomping red mud all over that pretty white canvas, "There has got to be a better way to do this, than walk or crawl out here, covered in mud, to get this son - of -a - b!tch taken apart. Surely whoever engineered this design didn't intend for the future owner to have to track mud all over the top, just to get the damn thing back in the box."

Until this moment I was sure I was "missing the obvious".

Your response has done little to suave my tattered self-esteem. :) :)

Thanks guys, at the very least I have your comments to share with my son!

DC
 
I had a 12x12 alaknak w/vestibule. The room was good, but mine was a first generation.

I could not get the roof tight enough to stop water from pooling at the corners. Also, mine leaked badly. I bought it used from a guy who had stored it wet, and I am sure that had something to do with it leaking.

If I knew they had the roof tensioning figured out, I would like to have another one.

The vestibule was great. We had our cook stove in there with room for ice chests and a walkway down the middle.

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We have the Davies 16x20 with the stove. Love this tent. Also added a 8 foot awning for our Elk hunt in Nevada in 2017. One thing we do is we have our visitors write on the sidewall of the tent including ourselves. Usually the name and date and your experience of the hunt in a sentence or 2. Pretty cool to see this when your on your next hunt. I don't mind spending the extra time for a larger tent knowing how comfortable you will be.
 
When I hunt either by myself or with one other buddy this is what I use. It has every amenity you could ask for, except for a microwave or oven. It has a forced air heater, a compressor refrig with a freezer, 160 watts of solar and dual AGM batteries, a queen and a second full size bed, hot water heater, a shower, stove, sink/faucet, etc. I tow my quad in my trailer. It's a simple system and I can easily stay in one spot for over two weeks without ever having to start my truck and move. I don't use a generator either.

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My current situation precludes me from caring about your opinion but go ahead and give voice to it anyway...

IF you are going to stick with a traditional wall tent...

set up your sleeping situation (cots??) and stove on a smooth surface, concrete in the garage for instance.

set up the stove and leave a little space for wood and safe buffer. Measure your smallest rectangle where it all works.

10x12 is obnoxious for 3, but it does work
8x10 is great for two
No experience with more than 3 it was one too many.
 
I backpack, so I need lightweight but I have found Kifaru shelters to be absolutley amazing and a total game changer for late season hunting for me..... I have the Tut and a smith cylinder stove. It sleeps two guys, gear, the stove, and probably 2 days worth of wood. They make bigger tents too.
 
>So I have a huge wall
>tent 16x20 and it is
>great for a full week
>set up. But I am
>wanting something smaller and a
>lot easier to set up.
>I have a stove for
>the big tent. But I
>would like something smaller room
>for 4 people that is
>tight but doable.
>
>Any thoughts?

Well I found a used (looked brand new) 12x12 Alaknak at Cabelas for $450 out the door.

We have slept in it already this winter took 28 minutes to set up and 45 to take down. Way better than my wall tent and using bunk bed cots enough room for 4 and really nice for 2.

I will share pics of our adventures in our tent...
 
KIFARU--I have stayed in these on multiple occasions. Terrible!! Terrible!! in cold weather! The stove will heat the tent as long as it is burning wood, which lasts for about 30-45 min max. The setup is very lightweight & very easy setup!! so IMO it would be good for warm/dry weather without the stove. I don't like the idea of not having a floor. Also, when you wake up the condensation is horrible. They do make a liner to remedy the condensation issue, but the setup is already OVERPRICED to the max as it is...by the time you get the tent, liner, stove etc....you are in to it $1800ish...WAY OVERPRICED!!!! whatever the ten states as far as how many people can sleep in it comfortably......cut that in half at best!!!! I.E. a 6-man sawtooth is good for 2 with gear.
better off with a good 4 season tent IMO
 
Seek Outside has some great tipi options armed with stove jacks. I run a Redcliff that easily fits 3 guys + stove + gear, but they have much bigger options available. Easiest set-up imaginable - one center pole (buy the carbon fiber option, trust me, they're indestructible) and a handful of tent stakes. I know from experience that the Redcliff will survive 15 hours of sustained 40-50 mph wind with gusts to 71 mph.
 

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