I am going on my 1st hunt (elk depravation) this October near Eureka NV where the weather historically has highs of 65 degrees and lows of 30 degrees. I am thinking I will be hunting at elevations near 8000ft. I have decided on getting the hecs base layer to start with including socks, back lava and gloves for spot and stalk method. I don't know what to use as layering system next. I was thinking merino wool for colder days and nights next for warmth and odor control. So I will have in my backpack or on me. Then I get overwhelmed by the options available for layering next. Short sleeved shirt, long sleeved, lightweight, heavyweight, vests, 90% jackets, rain gear etc. I'm trying to figure out what I need and can do without now. Money is a factor for me. I don't want to be cheap, just practical. I believe I bought frog togg gear for rain already as well. On days I wouldn't need merino wool I still would have an odor issue. Is it best to wear odor control clothing closest to your body or as outer layer? I have bought a kit with odor sprays, laundry detergent, sheets, deodorant, wipes etc. so I think I'm good there. But I would still like to add one more article of scent blocking clothing. Am I overthinking this scent blocking stuff? It seems to me there are ALOT of options and many work. I'm just trying to narrow it down for financial reasons. If possible please help me in my layering for these temps at roughly 8000ft. I want to be overly prepared just not excessively prepared if that makes sense. And lastly I can surely use some advice on cammo patterns. I have been looking at Sitka gear and I like the subalpine cammo even though a friend of mine recommended open country. I think both colors would serve me well, but again it's my first hunt and I don't know any better. I've read ASAT is good too and cheaper. I plan on hunting as often as NDOW allows me in the future in northern Nevada for big game. So I'm looking at a sound investment in clothing. Any thoughts on these or other patterns? First lite? Russell? Kings desert camo? Other? This is my first post and if this finds you veteran hunters willing to help me out, I thank you in advance. Thank You
Cammo help PLEASE! Greenhorn!
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elkassassin
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The Plastic Zipper on a KINGS Camo Jacket won't last Me 1/2 a Day!
As soon as you Invest 3K-4K in clothing alone you should be good to go!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
As soon as you Invest 3K-4K in clothing alone you should be good to go!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
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No Offense to KINGS Camo!
If it's a Plastic Zipper!
It Ain't for Me!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
If it's a Plastic Zipper!
It Ain't for Me!
I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces
It Ain't Easy being Me!
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-11-18 AT 09:34PM (MST)[p]Wonrate camo. Great pattern. Best customer service. Find them on Facebook. Joel Williams the owner will take care of you. Based out of NV too.
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I'd say you're worrying too much about what to wear. Go hunt and have fun. Won't matter if you're in Carhartt coat and Wrangler jeans. Look for those elk a long way off if you can and find them with a spotting scope or good binos. Then slip in with a wind advantage while staying out of sight. Get within 250-300 yards and stack one up. But only let them see your sneaky eyes as you peek over something from that shooting position.
Move slowly and don't ever skyline yourself while hunting. Look hard and find the elk before they see you and you'll be successful.
Seriously, have fun and be sneaky. I'd make a bet that a lot more elk have been killed by folks not wearing a fancy camo pattern than ones who are in the latest and best camo.
Best of luck on your adventure.
Move slowly and don't ever skyline yourself while hunting. Look hard and find the elk before they see you and you'll be successful.
Seriously, have fun and be sneaky. I'd make a bet that a lot more elk have been killed by folks not wearing a fancy camo pattern than ones who are in the latest and best camo.
Best of luck on your adventure.
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Was that a real post? Sounds gimmicky to me? Put on some army surplus camouflage-$15-$20 and go at it bro.
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Whatever your can stay comfortable in. More important thing to remember is to stay down wind. They may see you once , twice even three times. But they are only going to smell you once before they are gone. The game doesn't care if your camo is all matching. Wash whatever you are wear in a hunting type of detergent that doesn't have brightinners . Remember that deer and elk see in the blue grey spectrum of light. So blue shows up very bright to them.
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I'd bet your going to be hunting within a mile or so of the truck most of the time. You don't need anything fancy. Hell, I have a closet full of designer camo, but find myself wearing jeans and flannels most of the time just because I get sick of the camo fanboys. If you want to buy something, I'd buy the merino base layers. Past that, I'd just wear some jeans and a jacket. No need to drop coin that you don't want to.
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I would say spend the money on a good base layer and after that, get what you can afford that won't break the bank. As others have said you can shoot elk in a red flannel and jeans or you can spend $2000 on matching boxer briefs. Get out and hunt. Forget about scent control anything. Even as a tree stand hunter, it's mostly a security blanket and a gimmick. Get the wind right for you and make your move. I promise you'll mess up hundreds of other things before you can blame your camo, scent control or your electro magnetic field on big game hunts. Good Luck
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-12-18 AT 06:11AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jul-12-18 AT 06:07?AM (MST)
Good lord, SLOW DOWN.
First, put the credit card back in your wallet. Quit listening to the shows and podcasts, remember they are like NASCAR they have to pimp products to pay the bills.
Dump the scent free, elk can smell that too. If your hunting and not showering, you smell.
Your not really mountain hunting so all that technical gear is a waste. A barb wire fence rips the crotch out of Sitka same as Army surplus.
Fact is buy some good boots. Buy some decent glass, some lower tier clothes. Check Camofire. After one hunt you'll figure out what you like and will be buying different stuff anyway.
Remember. That one Sitka outfit is 2 out of state tags. You will get more out of the tags than the pretty camo.
On a side note, its sad to see a guy who believes the marketing hype and has let it become a barrier. Hunting is quickly becoming golf and skiing.
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Good lord, SLOW DOWN.
First, put the credit card back in your wallet. Quit listening to the shows and podcasts, remember they are like NASCAR they have to pimp products to pay the bills.
Dump the scent free, elk can smell that too. If your hunting and not showering, you smell.
Your not really mountain hunting so all that technical gear is a waste. A barb wire fence rips the crotch out of Sitka same as Army surplus.
Fact is buy some good boots. Buy some decent glass, some lower tier clothes. Check Camofire. After one hunt you'll figure out what you like and will be buying different stuff anyway.
Remember. That one Sitka outfit is 2 out of state tags. You will get more out of the tags than the pretty camo.
On a side note, its sad to see a guy who believes the marketing hype and has let it become a barrier. Hunting is quickly becoming golf and skiing.
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Take all that money and buy the best optics you can afford.
That hunt is a depredation hunt, elk concentrate on private lands and there are a handful of resident elk in 145. You need to get up fairly high and glass down onto the private lands, then intercept the elk. Glass All day until you find an elk, then kill one. If you see a legal elk, kill it. This is not a trophy hunt, and you will be lucky to see 10 elk.
Go to Walmart and get some decent base layer clothes and camo jeans and be happy. You are going to be spending a lot of time in your truck glassing.
That hunt is a depredation hunt, elk concentrate on private lands and there are a handful of resident elk in 145. You need to get up fairly high and glass down onto the private lands, then intercept the elk. Glass All day until you find an elk, then kill one. If you see a legal elk, kill it. This is not a trophy hunt, and you will be lucky to see 10 elk.
Go to Walmart and get some decent base layer clothes and camo jeans and be happy. You are going to be spending a lot of time in your truck glassing.
Thanks for the help. That's why I was asking these questions. I just don't have any experience in the field and I don't know much more than what I've read. I'm glad I posted this. It's making me think twice about this clothing stuff. I just need to simplify and not fall for all the fancy gimmicks.
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I buy nearly all my stuff on clearance. Usually right after Xmas when they dump it.
Try to buy one quality thing per year.
Go lower tier. Vortex Diamondbacks. Kings camo hunter.
Camofire has some good deals if you have the cash when they pop.
I've gotten good boots from sierra trading post.
Good luck man! Glad you started hunting, welcome to our shared addiction.
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Try to buy one quality thing per year.
Go lower tier. Vortex Diamondbacks. Kings camo hunter.
Camofire has some good deals if you have the cash when they pop.
I've gotten good boots from sierra trading post.
Good luck man! Glad you started hunting, welcome to our shared addiction.
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The best part about some of the clothing is the utility and comfort of the clothing, not the camo pattern. If you find some clothing you like, roll with it. Color/pattern is almost irrelevant, IMO.
That said, wearing jeans and a flannel is NOT equal to a good, quality 4 way stretch hunting pant and merino base layer. Anyone that says it is hasn't tried the other stuff, or is full of it. If you can afford it, get it and you won't regret it. If you can't afford it, that's okay. Go with what you can afford and have fun. That's the issue, the best stuff is pricey. But hiking in quality boots, socks, and clothing is more enjoyable than doing so in the cheap alternatives. Just get the best you can afford, in the color you like the most, but don't overthink it.
Some will say don't skimp on the boots, which I agree with. But don't skimp on rain gear either. You get what you pay for there.
That said, wearing jeans and a flannel is NOT equal to a good, quality 4 way stretch hunting pant and merino base layer. Anyone that says it is hasn't tried the other stuff, or is full of it. If you can afford it, get it and you won't regret it. If you can't afford it, that's okay. Go with what you can afford and have fun. That's the issue, the best stuff is pricey. But hiking in quality boots, socks, and clothing is more enjoyable than doing so in the cheap alternatives. Just get the best you can afford, in the color you like the most, but don't overthink it.
Some will say don't skimp on the boots, which I agree with. But don't skimp on rain gear either. You get what you pay for there.
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Nobody has ever claimed you can't kill a deer or elk in blue jeans. But just like there are more efficient and comfortable ways to kill one than with a sling and rocks like David and Goliath of old, I'm going to utilize advances in technology and gear to my benefit when I can.
Thanks! This is something I've wanted to do for almost 20 years. I'm sooo glad I didn't just buy all that fancy gear. I'm looking forward to getting out there. And hey, if I don't get one it?ll still be an awesome camping trip, and I'll try again next time I get a tag. Thanks for the advice!
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If you are in the salt lake area. Kings is having a open house. You can usually pick up some good deals. Rain gear , boots and a good jacket. After that just pick up what you want when you can. Unlike Elkasssin I don't mind Kings. They have different levels of camo most affordable.
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Chris,
You don't say where you live, but if you can, the best investment of time and money will be to head to the hunt area and get familiar with it. Spend a long weekend if you can. See where you want to be to spot the elk, hike there and time it. Locals you meet are often willing to give advice, too. So if you are driving around, make some friends and pick their brains.
You've gotten some good advice here, but that would be a very worthwhile trip.
I sure hope you get one. We need more hunters in this world and you seem like a nice guy trying to do the right thing. Best of luck.
You don't say where you live, but if you can, the best investment of time and money will be to head to the hunt area and get familiar with it. Spend a long weekend if you can. See where you want to be to spot the elk, hike there and time it. Locals you meet are often willing to give advice, too. So if you are driving around, make some friends and pick their brains.
You've gotten some good advice here, but that would be a very worthwhile trip.
I sure hope you get one. We need more hunters in this world and you seem like a nice guy trying to do the right thing. Best of luck.
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I'm not a fanboy for any one brand because I think most of them are good, it comes down to how much you're willing to spend and how long you want them to last. I've used Kings camo for years and have always been happy with their products and they don't break the bank. My wife likes using the camo from Walmart and it works just fine also. For me it's about comfort more than anything.
Like someone else above said I also worry more about the boots I'm wearing than what pattern of camo because if my feet give out then I'm screwed.
I use just plain black RealTree base layers from Walmart and they work great for me, decently priced, warm and above all comfortable.
A good quiet, waterproof jacket is a must also.
Like someone else above said I also worry more about the boots I'm wearing than what pattern of camo because if my feet give out then I'm screwed.
I use just plain black RealTree base layers from Walmart and they work great for me, decently priced, warm and above all comfortable.
A good quiet, waterproof jacket is a must also.
Thanks! So my newest update is I bought a good pair of merino wool baselayer although it was advertised as mid layer. Which I'm very happy with. And thanks to everyone NOT Hecs yet..I've decided good boots and eyeballs are next. I have Binos. I am waiting for a deal on camofire for the boots.(thanks for heads up everyone). Now I'm concentrating on short and long sleeved shirts and long pants for mid layers. I'm thinking rothco for the price, but I like kings pattern better. I will check out skre after this post. Basically I'm undecided. I'm doing my due diligence after you guys set me on the right path. I can't thank everyone enough, going to skre gear.....now!
Nice elk DW! And thanks for your help. Your proof I'm overthinking this whole thing. I'm going to simplify for sure! I can't wait for my season to start. My chances are slim but thanks to everyone?s help I know I'm on the right track. I also bought orange vest and hat for safety reasons.
Thank you ICMDEER. I live in Las Vegas NV. I wanted to go hunting for decades and this year I pulled the trigger and got my depredation elk tag. I planned on going up there late July, but now it's looking like early August. I've learned elk graze on same areas as cows who eat alfalfa hay and grass. I'm going to borrow a satcom from my wife?s uncle and concentrate on the area between a ridge and flatland before the elk gets to ranchers property. Intercept him/her in public area. I did read to scout your areas of interest of course, but also hit the local bars and talk to ranchers there about info. Since they are a nuisance to ranchers.
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Chris,
The one thing I would highly recommend is a light weight camo wind resistant pull over. I've archery and rifle hunted around the west and I have two of them I bought from Cabela's years ago. They scrunch up and can fit in a pocket but with a decent base layer and long sleeve shirt below it I've hunted 30 degrees just fine.
Wind is the big killer whether your talking concealment or survival.
The one thing I would highly recommend is a light weight camo wind resistant pull over. I've archery and rifle hunted around the west and I have two of them I bought from Cabela's years ago. They scrunch up and can fit in a pocket but with a decent base layer and long sleeve shirt below it I've hunted 30 degrees just fine.
Wind is the big killer whether your talking concealment or survival.
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I do like Kings camo as well. Their "classis" camo is cotton and very comfortable and affordable. I have higher end camo, but I think Kings would be a great start for you. I also like to wear a wool vest for "mid layer" to keep in body heat.
I couldn't agree more on finding GREAT boots and good glass. Good luck on your hunt!!
hwy
I couldn't agree more on finding GREAT boots and good glass. Good luck on your hunt!!
hwy
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Under Armour cold weather gear would be my 1st pick pr of long johns and one long sleeve shirt.
I wear it -20 and it will keep ya warm enough to hunt.
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I wear it -20 and it will keep ya warm enough to hunt.
"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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A lot of great information has already been shared, but I want to echo the comments made about putting your money into boots, optics and your weapon versus expensive camo. I have never spent more than $60 on camo pants and never more than $30 for a camo shirt. With this "cost-effective" camo I have harvested several animals bow hunting and been within 10-20 yards of animals that had no idea I was there. The proof is in the pudding as they say. I personally like Cabelas brand camo (cost effective, but has held up well for me).
LAST EDITED ON Jul-20-18 AT 12:13PM (MST)[p]
It looks like you've sifted through the advice and made some good choices. You've taken a fork in the road that will change your life forever. It's a hell of a lot of fun! Those first few seasons taking care of your feet and staying dry are two of the most important things on a limited budget. Through the years you will add to your gear making you more productive and the trips even more enjoyable! And one day you'll find yourself here......
An old pickup that gets you from point A to point B with plenty of Colorado pinstriping and a dent or two when your buddy decides to put it up against a couple trees!
You'll make some great friends along the way. Some of them you will find out have some hidden talents!
Some years your meat poles will sag from the weight!
You may get to see the excitement in a young Hunters eyes after he or she shoots their first elk!
Maybe you'll buy your dad an elk tag and watch him shoot his first elk. You'll have your crosshairs on the elk, but you won't pull the trigger because you want his first elk to be his.
You'll own some good animals that will make your life easier and the trip more enjoyable!
It's a marathon not a Sprint. You don't have to be magazine cover ready to have a helluva lot of fun! In that old pickup and trailer in the first pic is 30 years of accumulation in gear and memories. There's wall tents and wood stoves. Riding saddles and pack saddles. A couple horses and a mule that's older than that pick up that I trust more than most people I meet. There's chainsaws and tire chains. A cook stove and a kitchen box. There's 20 year old scent Lok rain gear that has kept me warm and dry a time or two. And just for Homer there's a tool box full of tools because I drive an old Ford!? There's backpacks rifles and scopes, binoculars spotters a rangefinder and GPS. There's cots cold weather sleeping bags and a good pad. There's a few big coolers full of food cold beverages and ice for six people for 10 days. There's knives game Saw and game bags. And there's also three simple things, a can of WD-40, a roll of duct tape, and a pair of vice grips. This is gear accumulated over a lot of years by picking up a few items every year. But you won't find $1,000 worth of camouflage clothing. Take care of your feet, and stay dry. If your feet are wet or blistered you won't want to walk over that next ridge. If you're wet or cold, all you'll want to do is head back to camp to warm up and dry out. A lot of years you'll wish you had a pair of camouflage shorts! Have fun and enjoy the ride, and remember to bring somebody with you, because there will be days you'll need somebody to remind you you're having fun!
This Thread reminded me of this movie clip.
https://youtu.be/XfCAheFCE0Q
Good luck this fall Chris! And come back and tell us about your hunt!
#livelikezac
It looks like you've sifted through the advice and made some good choices. You've taken a fork in the road that will change your life forever. It's a hell of a lot of fun! Those first few seasons taking care of your feet and staying dry are two of the most important things on a limited budget. Through the years you will add to your gear making you more productive and the trips even more enjoyable! And one day you'll find yourself here......
An old pickup that gets you from point A to point B with plenty of Colorado pinstriping and a dent or two when your buddy decides to put it up against a couple trees!
You'll make some great friends along the way. Some of them you will find out have some hidden talents!
Some years your meat poles will sag from the weight!
You may get to see the excitement in a young Hunters eyes after he or she shoots their first elk!
Maybe you'll buy your dad an elk tag and watch him shoot his first elk. You'll have your crosshairs on the elk, but you won't pull the trigger because you want his first elk to be his.
You'll own some good animals that will make your life easier and the trip more enjoyable!
It's a marathon not a Sprint. You don't have to be magazine cover ready to have a helluva lot of fun! In that old pickup and trailer in the first pic is 30 years of accumulation in gear and memories. There's wall tents and wood stoves. Riding saddles and pack saddles. A couple horses and a mule that's older than that pick up that I trust more than most people I meet. There's chainsaws and tire chains. A cook stove and a kitchen box. There's 20 year old scent Lok rain gear that has kept me warm and dry a time or two. And just for Homer there's a tool box full of tools because I drive an old Ford!? There's backpacks rifles and scopes, binoculars spotters a rangefinder and GPS. There's cots cold weather sleeping bags and a good pad. There's a few big coolers full of food cold beverages and ice for six people for 10 days. There's knives game Saw and game bags. And there's also three simple things, a can of WD-40, a roll of duct tape, and a pair of vice grips. This is gear accumulated over a lot of years by picking up a few items every year. But you won't find $1,000 worth of camouflage clothing. Take care of your feet, and stay dry. If your feet are wet or blistered you won't want to walk over that next ridge. If you're wet or cold, all you'll want to do is head back to camp to warm up and dry out. A lot of years you'll wish you had a pair of camouflage shorts! Have fun and enjoy the ride, and remember to bring somebody with you, because there will be days you'll need somebody to remind you you're having fun!
This Thread reminded me of this movie clip.
https://youtu.be/XfCAheFCE0Q
Good luck this fall Chris! And come back and tell us about your hunt!
#livelikezac
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That friends is how its done.
DW just dropped the mic.
No amount of Sitka, or first lite is worth near what an Aspen in the door is.
Chris. I'm glad you in. Its too bad you didn't get in years ago.
We are creating wayyyyyy to many barriers with our "industries".
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DW just dropped the mic.
No amount of Sitka, or first lite is worth near what an Aspen in the door is.
Chris. I'm glad you in. Its too bad you didn't get in years ago.
We are creating wayyyyyy to many barriers with our "industries".
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Thanks go higher. I'm grateful to everyone for the help. I'm going with kings this year. I went to bass pro here in Vegas where I live and talked with the sales lady a few weeks ago before I posted this. I was looking at Sitka open country and she said bass pro/cabelas are coming out with their version of open country camo sometime this year. So I'm definitely going to save up and look into their patterns for future hunts!
Wow! That's awesome! Heck of a post. I like the checklist too. Appreciate it. I am going up with my father in law this year who we just petitioned from the Philippines last year. They don't have elk there so he's excited to join me. And since I don't know how to field dress yet, if I do get lucky he will be my teacher. I do have an 06 Ford F-150 I've used for masonry the past 12 years, so I don't mind the bruises and dents, although I still need anti slip positraction installed and better tires before i go up. No 4wheel drive sadly. I'm also debating if I should fix up my atv that's been sitting in my garage since I got married. I'm looking forward to meeting new people as well as getting to know my father in law better. I really enjoy your post and pictures. Thank you very much!
Sadly I got skunked on my hunt, but I learned a lot! Thanks to everyone?s help I enjoyed myself tremendously. Biggest lesson, use 4wheel drive truck and not rely on atv only. I got caught in 1st snow going uphill with no place to turn around. And obviously I got stuck. I need to pay attention to the weather more. Good lesson for this Vegas boy. I covered maybe 70miles and sadly didn't see one elk by truck. Between rain and snow I didn't see any tracks on foot. Saw some fresher elk poop and scouted those areas on foot, but no luck. But it is a thrill just to be out there. My father in law and I got to bond for the first time together, and we enjoyed each other?s company. Still have a ways to go to become a better hunter, but I have a direction now, and I feel I can improve in a lot of areas to hone my skills. I cannot wait until next year, hopefully I will be out there again!
LAST EDITED ON Oct-28-18 AT 12:31PM (MST)[p]Took me a few years to kill my first elk too Chris, but I've killed a pile of em since! You got a pile of lessons to learn in front of you, many highs and lows. But it's a great way of life! Enjoy the ride and welcome to the addiction!
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>Hi Dennis,
>That's one of the best posts
>I've seen in awhile.
>The very cool pictures help the
>story
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>Joe
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>"Sometimes you do things wrong for
>so long you
>think their right" - 2001
>"I can't argue with honesty" -
>2005
>-Joe E Sikora
Ahhh, some of the comments put me in a mood that day I guess Joe, and I unloaded. Thanx for the compliment!
#livelikezac
>That's one of the best posts
>I've seen in awhile.
>The very cool pictures help the
>story
>
>Joe
>
>"Sometimes you do things wrong for
>so long you
>think their right" - 2001
>"I can't argue with honesty" -
>2005
>-Joe E Sikora
Ahhh, some of the comments put me in a mood that day I guess Joe, and I unloaded. Thanx for the compliment!
#livelikezac
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I concur with you Ropinfool..DW great pics and stories...that's what makes the hunting fun...reminds me of a story with the pick-up against the quakies..we killed three bulls one day in a recently logged area and a few skid trails around..we are standing their pondering who's gonna get the packboards and one of our guys says..I can drive right to here with his jacked up chevy blazer...so we get them loaded up and can't shut the rear door because of horns...I can fix that!!! Slam the door real hard...Elk antler thru the back window...fixed it see??? just had to pay $300 for a new window..
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Buy quality MATERIALS whatever you are buying. Look for sales if you have time
As far as camo: the best camo pattern is the one on sale. I never pay extra for any particular camo pattern. Anything that breaks up your outline is fine. I use the old "outfitters" camo pattern most of the time. Nothing fancy about that.
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As far as camo: the best camo pattern is the one on sale. I never pay extra for any particular camo pattern. Anything that breaks up your outline is fine. I use the old "outfitters" camo pattern most of the time. Nothing fancy about that.
txhunter58
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I just wanted to express my gratitude once more to everybody?s help. You all gave me a direction moving forward in my future hunts to come. I was greedy as a 1st time hunter too. I applied for everything and drew a deprevation elk tag this year. So I'm going to take my time, do some homework, and get back out there next year or whenever I get drawn for elk and deer. DW, I almost have your wonderful post memorized by now. You remind me of my grandfather I love and respect deeply. For you to take the time and effort to create that astounds me truly.I can go deeper but I just wanted to say Thank you! Absolutely wonderful story, history and checklist. I hope I expressed myself correctly and not wierd. Lol. I feel like I'm part of a hunting family now. I would love to hear about your success stories, as I will love to share my own stories in the near future I hope!
