Africa

Excellent suggestion. Hopefully Founder is amenable to creating such a forum. I would definitely enjoy the pics and stories of ordinary folks hunting in the Dark Continent.

Eldorado
 
I would like to see it too.

Not sure what hassle it would be but even throw old thread about Africa in it.
 
JFP F'er!

3 times already?

No wonder you tried leaving her at the Gas Station!

Was you planning on picking her up in a Month when you got back from Africa?:D

For GAWDS Sakes Guys,We Got Kids on this Site,Some of them are 65 years Old!:D

I don't care if they're big or small!
If they throw lead I like em all!
:p
 
BOP
If you go once, you'll go again and again. She's been twice and going the next trip.
I don't dare leave her at a gas station in Zimbabwe huh?
 
Well F'er!

She sounds perty HOT!

And likes to Hunt!

Don't think I'd leave her at the Zimbabwe gas station unless you want one of them Tribesman to show her what You've never showed her!:D

(((RAZZIN YA!!!)))



For GAWDS Sakes Guys,We Got Kids on this Site,Some of them are 65 years Old!:D

I don't care if they're big or small!
If they throw lead I like em all!
:p
 
Africa is a great experience. I justed returned yesterday from my 3rd trip. I kinda feel sorry for the next guys that go, I didn't leave much. :)
 
I would like to see an Africa forum as well. I am headed to there in 12 days for my first trip. I cannot hardly wait. The accurate reloading website is a good website as well but I would prefer to stay here and look around especially if there as an Africa forum. Founder, please bring it on.
 
I bowhunted South Africa last year...I've had alot of great experiences chasing animals around, but Africa was more pure FUN than any of them.

A forum here would be cool.
 
If I only had the money...

I'd love to see trophies you guys bring back though...


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
Just got back from my first trip. Loved every second of it. Thought it was a once in a lifetime trip for me, but I am already trying to figure out a way to go back. I would visit an Africa forum all the time. Hope it happens!
 
It is cheaper to go to Africa on a plainsgame safari than to the Yukon or BC on a sheep hunt. Hard to believe but it is. I have a very good friend that has hunted all over the world and he keeps telling me that once you go you will find ways to keep going. That is what I am afraid of. All of the stuff in the States will pale in comparison or I am hoping it is that way. I will write a story and pics upon my return. 12 days and counting to departure.

Already trying to find a way to do a Buff/Hippo hunt in the future.
 
LJ........I CAN GO ON TWO PLAINS GAME AFRICAN HUNTS FOR WHAT IT COST ME TO SHEEP HUNT IN THE YUKON.......AIR FAIR INCLUDED. SHEEP HUNTING IS EXPENSIVE.....IF YOU HAVE "SHEEP FEVER" IT MAKES THE PROCESS OF JUSTIFYING THE COST EASIER......BECAUSE YOUR SICK......................YD.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-11 AT 08:59AM (MST)[p]I just want to get an Impala, Gemsbok, and a Kudu with my bow. That is my dream hunt. I have $900 saved. 8k to go. I would enjoy an Africa forum.

Dillon

www.dillonhoyt.com
 
dillon maybe with enough post. Id like to see some pics and stories all in one place. quest
 
I am told that I have internet, cell phone, text access where I am going but I am taking a sat phone as well just in case. My plan, internet permitting, is to try and post a daily update and if not I am taking my laptop to keep a journal as well. My buddy did that and it added just that much more to the memories. Basically I could relive his hunt from day to day through his journal. He put everything from what they had to eat, to what they saw, what they shot, how far the shot was, where the animal was hit or missed, etc. Way cool. I am so ready to go and actually packing a bag today to make sure I am under weight. I feel like I have nothing to take. Packing very light for me it seems. Basically just two of everything. We should be there at the perfect time and is one of the main reasons I booked it three years in advance was to have what I consider the best dates possible. We have ten hunting days and will be gone a total of 15 days which is longer than I have gone anywhere in my life. Glad the trip is this year as I have not drawn one tag and this will help make up for having nothing this fall.
 
Hey everyone! I just bought a ten day South African safari from a RMEF banquetand it seems as though I won't be able to make it. Is there anyone out there interested in a hunt swap or buying the hunt from me. I would take a thousand bucks, which I feel is better for me than losing it all together. The hunt is for two people, ten days of hunting one day of rest. You would have to pay for airfare and trophy fees, everything else is covered. If anyone can help me out please fell free to email me at [email protected]. thanks.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-11 AT 04:46PM (MST)[p]bowhunter
Is the hunt that was advertised on AR? The one with EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY high trophy fees. Buyer beware if this is the same hunt. If not, post the details, would love to hear more about it.
 
An African forum is needed. For those who are going on their 1st African hunt, Good luck, you will never be the same.

from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
 
bow
You can still make a good trip out of it, just shoot a couple animals even if they are high priced and enjoy your time over there. An African safari is about a lot more than just killin stuff. You'd have a grand time.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-11 AT 10:40PM (MST)[p]Take a look on FaceBook at either Omujeve Safaris or Fluid Peak Films, and you will see where I am "forcing" Predator to go next year. I think we will have to endure another HAC, and won't be able to put up with her!

My grand-daughter helped pick out what Lisa wants to shoot next year. :)

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Littljoe:

What day are you leaving? I am leaving Saturday the 2nd of July from SLC, to Atlanta, and then to Johannesburg. I'll be there for two weeks as well.
 
HEY WOODRUFF.......WHO DID YOU BOOK WITH IF YOU DONT MIND ME ASKING........PLAINS GAME HUNT OR A MIX HUNT, LOVE TO KNOW AS I AM SORTING OUT THE DIFF. OUTFITTERS/PH. (I DREW THE BOOKS DEER RIFLE)........GOOD LUCK ON YOUR HUNT. PM ME IF YOU LIKE...............THANKS..........YD.
 
I'd really like to see an African forum on here. It wouldn't replace AR, which is an outstanding site that is mostly dedicated to African hunting, but it would be a great addition to this wonderful website.

I've been on 4 safaris, and hardly a day goes by that I'm not thinking about a 5th one. I definitely expect to be back in Africa by 2013.
 
How can you not want to go hunt Africa, or go back again, when you have things like this to capture your imagination?

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-19-11 AT 02:01PM (MST)[p]Yukon:

I am hunting the Limpopo Region with
Motshwere Safaris. I have been very impressed
with the owner, so far. He will also be our PH.

I will be hunting plains game- Kudu, Eland, Gemsbok, Zebra, Warthog, and a few other animals. He is also taking me hunting at night, to hunt hyena. That was a hunt I really wanted to do and he is more than willing.

I will take hundreds of pics and send you some.

On another note: I drew a book cliffs muzz deer tag. Let's make a scouting trip down there. If you can't make it, I'll keep you updated on what find..
 
WOODRUFF.....WOW ...NEAT AFRICAN TRIP. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ALL ABOUT YOUR PLAINS GAME HUNT/ OUTFITTER/HOUSING/ AND PH. I HAVE GOT THE FEVER NOW......BEFORE I WAS JUST LUKE WARM ON AFRICA.... CANT WAIT TO SEE YOUR PICS. YOUR ANIMAL LINEUP IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT IN A PLAINS GAME EXPERIENCE.

CONGRATS ON YOUR BOOKS TAG, I WOULD LOVE TO SCOUT IT BUT TIME RESTRAINTS WONT ALLOW ME TO DO SO. KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY....YD.
 
Woodruff, I leave from SLC on Wed the 29th. Headed to DC then to Joberg and then to Port Elizabeth. I am going with www.blaauwkrantz.com, Arthur Rudman. I checked references and stuff for a couple of years and actually booked this safari three years ago as I wanted the specific dates I am hunting which is July 2-11. My list includes the Lesser Kudu (2), Nyala, Bushbuck, Bushpig, Warthog, Black Wildebeest, Zebra, to name a few. I am expecting to shoot a bunch of what I have in my mind and others that I am not planning on. I cannot hardly wait. I am taking a 300RUM and 375H&H. I decided to do a plains game hunt for the first trip and hope to go back in two years for a Cape Buffalo/Hippo hunt. I look at the prices there versus Canada and AK and for me Africa is a no brainer. The more I have reserached it and talked to people the more I think that I will be addicted to Africa and continue to keep going back.Everyone please post stories and pics; I am so intrigued by the Dark Continent.
 
Woodruff and Little Joe.....I hope you both get "SKUNKED"...Just kidding...Looking forward to hearing all about your adventures!~

KP
 
WOODRUFF & OTHERS THAT HAVE HUNTED AFRICA,....QUESTION : HOW DO GUYS DETERMINE WHAT MONTHS THEY WANT TO HUNT IN AFRICA??? I DONT WANT TO HUNT IN HOT TEMPS, THE COOLER THE BETTER. I ALSO UNDERSTAND LONG GRASS HURTS VISIBILITY. WHAT MONTHS ARE PRIME MONTHS TO HUNT, ARE THERE OTHER FACTORS TO CONSIDER AS WELL ??? THANKS,..........YD.
 
Kevin:

I hope I get some good animals... You better get
ready to quit your day job, and go full time taxidermy!!! By the way, I'm in town today. Let me know if you want me to look at that bear phone...
 
Woodruff, littlejoe....you guys will have a blast, good luck. Littlejoe..if you have a 300 ultra you don't need a 375 for plains game, but they are still fun to shoot.

Yukon, our summer is thier winter so temps are mild, although it can be cool at daybreak (low 30's) but warms up fast. I have been in late June, early July and early August. All were mild with highs in the hi-70's to low 80's.

Another topic generally not touched upon...boots, in northern RSA it is mostly flat to rolling terrain with sandy soil. Leave your insulated sheep boots home. Need something with less aggresive tread. Doesn't dig into the loose soil and is quieter. In Namibia I hunted an area with steep, short, rocky open ridges. A little more aggressive tread was useful. I had a pair of Mendl sitkas and they were perfect.

from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
 
littlejoe
If you are hunting kudu around Port Elizabeth then you will be hunting the Cape Kudu, not the Lesser Kudu which is found much further north. The Cape Kudu is thick in numbers down there and I would bet you'll see hundreds.

Yukon
May is generally rut time for kudu and its when I like to hunt them the most. Just like elk, you'll find the dominate boys pursuin the girls at the time. Winter down there can be a good time to as the vegetation is down many species hang around water sources.
 
You are correct; I will be hunting the Eastern Cape Kudu. Hopefully a couple of them. They shot a 52+" bull this week and for an Eastern that is a tremendous trophy. They also shot a 200lb Bushpig which is very exceptional as well.

I am taking my uninsulated Kenetrek boots on this trip and basically two of everything else. Not packing much for sure.

I am taking the 300RUM as I know that I can always count on it and the 375 as a recommendation from a buddy. He went to Zim last year and said he learned from his experience the 300gr TSX was great on the big animals like the Kudu and Eland and it just put a small entrance hole and exit hole on Impala sized game. The 180gr Accubond out of the 300RUM would blow up a big hole coming out of the little game. I plan to use both while I am there.

I hope to post a bunch of pics when I get back. I have been fortunate to be to BC, the Yukon and Alaska a couple of times and this is my first trip to the dark continent and I can hardly stand it.
 
If things go well for me and Woodruff I hope to send a bunch your way Kevin P. Don't worry I will only make you work on one project at a time.
 
One more thing. I chose July 2-11 as I have been told by several friends that have been to Africa that the end of June through mid July is the best time in their opinion. Perfect weather, relatively no insects, snakes, etc. Just perfect time to go hunting.
 
90% of them are high fenced, canned hunts. this forum doesn't really "do"that type of hunting from what i can tell, maybe it does? can you have that much fun on a high fenced hunt?
 
I was a little hesitant about the high fence situation my self untill I got there. The fences are a must once you get there and see it for your self. Not only does it allow the operators and farm owners to manage there operations it really helps to keep the poaching down. Ever body there has there homes locked up with gates and basically prison fences to keep the locals at bay. The country is vast and thick and definetaly not like shooting fish in a barrel. Its an amazing experience and cant wait to go back.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-20-11 AT 00:16AM (MST)[p]Post 50:

Your opinion on hunting methods means little, or nothing at all to me. Why would you even care to take the time to reply to a thread like this?

For those of you that are interested, one of the ranches I am hunting is 250,000 acres. I had no desire to hunt on a "canned" hunt. I checked references and discussed the hunting with my PH.

Basically, I'll see a gate when I enter the ranch and that will be it. That was perfectly find with me. To each their own....
 
i realize my post is a little short, thus making someone think it's rude, but-- what i mean is what it says- but, as a general rule of thumb, this forum really bags on high fenced opperations, i realize some of the places in africa are huge! so from someone who has normally been against high fenced hunting get past being behind the fence?

again, if you re-read the post, i'm just asking a question, i'm not trying to offend anyone.
 
300, I am offended by your post. If you consider the 100,000 acre place I am on a canned hunt then so be it but you could not be further from the truth. Obviously you have not done much research on Africa or what happens in that part of the world. If there is an Africa forum on here just don't look at it. I know I am going to go and enjoy every second and for those that want to say it is a canned hunt; do your research and then lets chat. I could go on about what I think are canned hunts in the states but that is a forum for another day and the hunts I am referring to are not fenced but in my mind they might as well be. Woodruff, enjoy every second as I can see you are like myself and did your research and will enjoy every second and want to go back before the plane hits the ground in the States.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-20-11 AT 02:30PM (MST)[p]Africa is one of the most incredible places I have seen. I have spent time from Alaska to Europe and although they each have a certain beauty Africa give you a feeling of stepping back in time. It's no wonder people want to see a Forum on this. It's something more you feel, reading in text books and a trip to the zoo won't come close to the real thing. Enjoy your trips boys and take a good camera. The Eastern Cape is awesome! Hope to go again one day and take the family with me. Hunting is just a bonus to the things you will experience. Good Luck!
 
South African hunts are almost exclusively canned hunts. Whether this offends you or not, it is a fact. If you want a fair-chase hunt in Africa, try Zimbabwe which brings its own issues. Most African hunters I know started in South Africa because it is more accessible and then transition to non-fenced hunts in Zimbabwe, Namibia, or Botswanna (if you have big money).

If a hunt takes place in a fenced area, it's a fenced hunt. Obviously, a fenced hunt on 100 acres is different than one that takes place on 250,000 acres. However, it the fence has no impact, than explain why it's there. By the way, if you think it eliminates poaching, I suggest you reconsider that logic again.

Ranchers in South Africa buy, sell, and trade animals like livestock. I take no moral position against this but I recognize it for what it is, no more or no less.
 
Elvis, yep it is behind a fence but we can agree to disagree on what you consider a canned hunt and what I consider a canned hunt. And yes, Zimbabwe is next on my list. Blaauwkrantz is one of the biggest areas to hunt in So. Africa and it will be a trip of a lifetime I am betting. Poaching occurs everywhere fence or no fence; Africa or the States. It is a problem. Elvis, have you been to Africa? Can you speak about this from personal experience? I do recognize it for what it is; I will see more animals in a week then most people see in a lifetime and will enjoy every second. I will spend less $$$ and shoot more in a week then a sheep hunt in the Yukon or AK that is for one sheep. There are some really small areas in So. Africa that are like pen hunting and those are not for me but I won't think any less of another guy that goes there and has a great trip. We are all from different walks of like and view things differently but the call of Africa has come and I cannot wait to go.
 
snivelingelvis
turns out you don't know as much about South Africa as you might have thought. Yes there are tons of high fenced places but there are many that are not. In total I've hunted 6 ranches or conservancies down there for a variety of species, most were many, many thousands of acres where you couldn't find a fence of any kind. Exactly 1 was high fenced. The rest were just 3 strand or goat fencing, hardly enough to keep anything inside. All game was free roaming except the livestock. Hardly what one would call exclusively canned. I will admit that one place I 'hunted' that was high fenced so I elected not to shoot an animal (zebra or springbuck or impala) because it would have been as easy as catching herpes at a hookers convention. The place was only 1000 acres, basically a zoo. I think these are the kinds of places you are thinking all of South Africa is like. Not so.
 
I WAS NOT BUYIN WHAT ELVIS WAS SELLIN EITHER.....SOME OF THOSE CONSERVANCIES ARE VERY LARGE BY TEXAS STANDARDS...........YD.
 
Also, the animals behind a "high fence" in RSA belong to the landowner and thus he has management control. In addition the fences maybe high but they sure don't keep animals in or out. I've seen eland jump 8 foot fences and warthogs and small antelope go under them. If you have'nt been there and experienced 1st hand you have no credability.

Namibia is mostly not high fenced and is currently one of the best deals in Africa for plains game, they have some of the best kudu in Africa with tons of big gemsbuck.

from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
 
Have to weigh in here, as I too have had to make a decision at times about where I like to hunt in Africa. Zim is great and largely unspoiled; however, my friends have a one MILLION acre conservancy in Namibia that we will hunt next year. They also hunta half dozen smaller places. Yes, there are fences and some of the places are very small. If you don't care for that, then don't do it and tell your PH you won't. Same as shooting from the truck, over bait, off a waterhole when it is dry season, etc. You're the one paying the tab, so decide for yourself!

Reasonable sized farms and ranches of 10-20,000 acres are the norm in RSA and even in Namibia, which is plenty if it is thornbrush or riverine jess. You'll hunt for days for your target species. Some are much larger and run 100-250,000 acres, and would take a week to walk across....

Namibia game fences must meet strict criteria in order to be "approved" by Ministry of Environment and Tourism (MET) as game fences. Typically 17 strands of 1/8" 12-ga.wire spaced 6 inches apart so about 8 feet tall. Like previously posted I have seen big 2000# eland go right over one! Warthogs make slides and anything smaller than an impala just shoots under them. If you put dangerous game on a place, the MET and surrounding neighbors generally ask for electric and the animals still go thru without slowing down.

Go live your dream, enjoy the trip you select, and if others don't like it - stop telling them about it, and keep the fun to yourself. :).
 
Good one, Scottyboy!

Some of the comments on this thread make clear the need for an African forum. Then the topics can be discussed in the proper detail.

Talking about Africa is like talking about hunting in the US as if it is one thing. Hunting whitetails in Virginia is just a little different than elk in Montana, or Dall sheep in Alaska. Which month is best? What about fences in suburban Virginai? I guess dall sheep must be fenced in as well since we are talking aobut hunting in the US?

There are lots of high fenced hunts in Africa. And lots of high fenced hunts in Texas. Research your specific outfitter and area. I don't claim to be an expert on Africa, but 6 safaris in RSA, Namibia and Zimbabwe give me some understanding. With a little luck I may add Tanzania, Mozambique and Zambia to my expereinces some day. The hunting in the six countries I mentioned is as different as the examples i used in the US. Generalizig to "Africa" is pretty absurd. Except for the fact that once you have been you will want to go back...

A Africa forum would be useful.

Bill
 
>littlejoe
>If you are hunting kudu around
>Port Elizabeth then you will
>be hunting the Cape Kudu,
>not the Lesser Kudu which
>is found much further north.
>The Cape Kudu is thick
>in numbers down there and
>I would bet you'll see
>hundreds.
>
>Yukon
>May is generally rut time for
>kudu and its when I
>like to hunt them the
>most. Just like elk, you'll
>find the dominate boys pursuin
>the girls at the time.
>Winter down there can be
>a good time to as
>the vegetation is down many
>species hang around water sources.
>

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Here is my eastern cape Kudu I got just over the border from the Cape in the Karoo of the Northern Cape. Most Eastern Cape Kudu will not go much over 49". Damn fun hunt alot more challenging than I thought. Did lots of hiking up mountains and hills for 2 days to over look river bottoms only to see smaller Kudu. I had to do a 1 1/2 - 2 mile stock on this one up a dry river bed. Crawling the last 1/2 a mile to not be spotted my him or the 10 cows he was with. In the end I shot him at 260 yards off of shooting sticks on my tip toes with rocks under my heals to get up over a bush. Very exciting hunt. Hunting for Eastern Cape Kudu is exciting. This was a fair chase hunt very rewarding. The only fences on this farm were 3 foot high (to keep the sheep penned it), and a kudu can easily clear a 7 foot fence.
 
Sig, thanks for the pic. I am so excited. They shot a 52"+ last week and I know that is the exception to the rule. They told me to shoot the first 46-47"bull or better and then look for another one that is larger. They are high on my list and ideally I would like to take two if possible. What else did you take while you were there? Pics? One thing that really intrigues me is the Copper Springbuck. Found lots of places with black, white and common but not Copper. Will be interesting to see.
 
A few pictures from RSA, May 2010. I took the wildebeest, the warthog, and both impala from blinds; blesbok and gemsbok were both spot and stalk. In early May conditions were more conducive to stalking than sitting water, and I had FUN chasing those critters around. Hunting over there definitely isn't the same as here in North America, it's a different experience and quite an adventure.

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Thanks for sharing. I cannot wait to see stuff like that. All of those animals are on my wish list especially the warthog. Where I am going specializes in Bushpig hunting as well and the moon conditions will be good and I am going to do that as well. Had a buddy go to Namibia last year to a bow hunting only area and loved every second.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-21-11 AT 03:20PM (MST)[p]My Eastern Cape Kudu was 46". I shot a copper, black, and a couple common springbuck while I was there. The Copper was a management ram, and 2 of the commons were management rams. I went with Jules of the Karoo Safaris.
Black Wildebeest
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Gemsbok
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Blesbok
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Impala
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Black Springbok.
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Common Springbok.
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Copper Springbok (managment not real big)
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Ostrich only cause I did not get my turkey this year.
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The let my friend who came along as an observer shoot a nice trophy common as well for free.

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Thanks for sharing. I am so excited. Seeing the picture of that copper one gets me going. Something about the copper and the common that I really like. Really hoping for a good bushbuck as well. That is awesome they let your buddy shoot one as well.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-21-11 AT 05:30PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-21-11 AT 04:57?PM (MST)

>Thanks for sharing. I am so
>excited. Seeing the picture of
>that copper one gets me
>going. Something about the copper
>and the common that I
>really like. Really hoping for
>a good bushbuck as well.
>That is awesome they let
>your buddy shoot one as
>well.


Check out Jules of the Karoo in the Northing Cape they have some monster springbok their like I said the copper I shot was a managenent one, there are some bigger coppers there by far, and they have Cape Bushbok. One of these days I may go back and shoot a troyphy copper and White. My personal favorite is the black springbok, but to each his own.
 
Anyone ever hunt Guinea- West Africa
Is there even hunting in that country. Any iformation that you can give would be appreciated.My son will be over there for 2 yrs.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
Founder let's see a forum on Africa so we can see more stories and pics and information on the dark continent. Bring it on.
 
More Pictures

Bontebok in the Karoo
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Old Fence where a farmer used 700 year old bushman paintings
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Sunset in the Karoo
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The Karoo
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Hartmans Zebra
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Area where the impala hang out
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Another Springbok
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