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BigB62
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Jan-01-17, 
12:47 PM (MST)
"Next World record"

Just wondering if any of you other mule deer freak's out there think the Burris buck killed in the early 70's will be beaten someday. What state ? This record has stood for 45 year's maybe it won't ever be broke. Your thought's?

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 RE: Next World...  headshot05      Jan-01-17   1 
  RE: Next World...  HiMtnHntr      Jan-01-17   2 
   RE: Next World...  bonecollect...      Jan-01-17   3 
    RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-02-17   6 
    RE: Next World...  fortheloveo...      Jan-05-17   17 
   RE: Next World...  two7D      Jan-05-17   21 
 RE: Next World...  BrowningRage      Jan-01-17   4 
  RE: Next World...  Dr_Hunter      Jan-01-17   5 
   RE: Next World...  YBO      Jan-02-17   7 
    RE: Next World...  Tristate      Jan-02-17   8 
   RE: Next World...  YELUM      Jan-02-17   9 
    RE: Next World...  YBO      Jan-02-17   10 
     RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-02-17   11 
      RE: Next World...  Sierra      Jan-02-17   12 
       RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-02-17   13 
        RE: Next World...  ICMDEER      Jan-03-17   14 
         RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-03-17   15 
          RE: Next World...  nripepi      Jan-05-17   19 
 RE: Next World...  BOHNTR      Jan-05-17   20 
  RE: Next World...  mntman      Jan-06-17   22 
   RE: Next World...  Longun      Jan-06-17   23 
   RE: Next World...  BrowningRage      Jan-06-17   24 
    RE: Next World...  Gator      Jan-06-17   25 
    RE: Next World...  mntman      Jan-06-17   26 
 RE: Next World...  marburg      Jan-06-17   27 
  RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-07-17   28 
   RE: Next World...  BrianID      Jan-09-17   29 
  RE: Next World...  Tikka      Jan-19-17   38 
 RE: Next World...  toklat      Jan-10-17   30 
  RE: Next World...  Homer      Jan-10-17   31 
   RE: Next World...  elkassassin      Jan-10-17   33 
   RE: Next World...  toklat      Jan-11-17   34 
  RE: Next World...  hornkiller      Jan-10-17   32 
   RE: Next World...  Homer      Jan-11-17   35 
    RE: Next World...  toklat      Jan-11-17   36 
     RE: Next World...  gznokes      Jan-19-17   37 
      RE: Next World...  tx_packmule      Jan-22-17   39 

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headshot05
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Jan-01-17, 
02:29 PM (MST)
1. "RE: Next World record"

Probably won't ever be broken. Seems as though everyone knows about the deer long before they get to that size and they are killed. My guess is that if it ever happens it will come from a unit in a state that is a type of general unit or un popular unit, that is not highly scrutinized.

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Jan-01-17, 
03:21 PM (MST)
2. "RE: Next World record"

I suppose it could happen. At this rate it's not very likely. If it is broken, I hope it's a good ole hunt like the Burris buck. None of this posse scouting/hunting, caught on candid trail camera, shot at 5,000 yards BS!

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bonecollector777
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Jan-01-17, 
03:39 PM (MST)
3. "RE: Next World record"

Don't know exact score but this buck may give him a run. It's in AZ in a lower quality unit. So far haven't heard of him being killed.

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elkassassin
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Jan-02-17, 
05:03 AM (MST)
6. "RE: Next World record"


If BoneCollector would have layed off the Release & waited one more year He'd of been Right in there!

There are Bucks that have the Potential to Break the Typical Record!

But Like stated above!

Ain't nobody gonna let em Walk when the very next Hunter will Kill the Buck!

The Burris Bucks Days are Numbered!

The Record will be Broken!

It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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fortheloveofit
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Jan-05-17, 
12:38 PM (MST)
17. "RE: Next World record"

Man that bucks incredible. His main beams need to be as good as the rest of him and he would be perfect. Either way a guys crazy to pass a buck like that.

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two7D
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Jan-05-17, 
09:07 PM (MST)
21. "RE: Next World record"

+1...

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BrowningRage
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Jan-01-17, 
04:00 PM (MST)
4. "RE: Next World record"

The Burris Buck is an absolute anomaly. A One-in-a-Billion animal...

Mostly because of the sheer size and symmetry of this buck, I doubt it will ever be beaten. Much like the Broder Buck (Non-Typical Record), it would take exceptional genes, and the buck would have to live long enough for those genes to produce.

On the premier units in the west, no guide or hunter is passing on a NET 200" typical, just to hope and pray that it makes it through the other hunters and winter and predators on the off chance that he will grow another 3.5" per tine for next season... Having held a 199" NET typical in my hands (a neighbor's buck) I can barely even imagine the Burris Buck...

Maybe one will come out of Canada..??

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

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Dr_Hunter
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Jan-01-17, 
09:56 PM (MST)
5. "RE: Next World record"

LAST EDITED ON Jan-01-17 AT 09:56 PM (MST)

Good question.... Maybe if they close Antelope Island for a few years?? It's possible, but not likely.

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YBO
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Jan-02-17, 
07:27 AM (MST)
7. "RE: Next World record"

>Non typical may never be broken. If it does, it will come from Canada. The typical will be broken.

ont size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jan-01-17
>AT 09:56 PM (MST)

>
>Good question.... Maybe if they close
>Antelope Island for a few
>years?? It's possible, but not
>likely.


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Tristate
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Jan-02-17, 
07:39 AM (MST)
8. "RE: Next World record"

Best chance for it to get broken is in North Texas.

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YELUM
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Jan-02-17, 
07:44 AM (MST)
9. "RE: Next World record"

Why would closing the island help. It was closed for 30 years and never grew a WR. It doesn't have the feed good enough to get any of them out there near WR status. Maybe a state record typical, but thats it.

Yelum

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YBO
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Jan-02-17, 
08:02 AM (MST)
10. "RE: Next World record"

The typical record, if broken, will come from Colo, AZ or Old Mex. Just a guess. Or, possibly Bess back pocket..

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elkassassin
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Jan-02-17, 
09:27 AM (MST)
11. "RE: Next World record"

Hey YBO!

My Back Pocket Ain't gonna do it!

I'd Suspect you're Right on the Old Mexico though!

Can You Imagine if a WR was located here in TARDville with the BS that goes on here with 'BIG MONEY BUCKS'?

It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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Sierra
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Jan-02-17, 
02:39 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Next World record"

The next world record will likely be a high fenced pet that someone passes off as a fair chase animal.

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Jan-02-17, 
02:42 PM (MST)
13. "RE: Next World record"

>The next world record will likely
>be a high fenced pet
>that someone passes off as
>a fair chase animal.


Kinda like the Last one?

It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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ICMDEER
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Jan-03-17, 
06:25 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Next World record"

I agree. Mexico high fence and passed off as fair chase. Bobcat should start building those Mexican preference points now so he can get the nomad............

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elkassassin
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Jan-03-17, 
07:11 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Next World record"

>I agree. Mexico high fence
>and passed off as fair
>chase. Bobcat should start
>building those Mexican preference points
>now so he can get
>the nomad............

ICM!

Them Ain't Points you need for that Fence Hunt!

It's Peso's!


It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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Jan-05-17, 
01:03 PM (MST)
19. "RE: Next World record"

I am betting on Colorado in the next 25 years if mule deer rebound and tags stay somewhat limited, seems like they can grow some whopper typicals with super deep forks like the Burris Buck, just need the perfect buck with little deductions and very few extras. Looking at the Burris Buck, you need 30" beams and 30" inside spread with big forks and good mass (doesn't have to be massive).

Arizona surely has a chance, maybe they should have tried to shoot off the extras on this guy (234" net typical frame!):
http://my.kingscamo.com/2013/giant-276-gross-mule-deer-gilbert-adams-iii-2013-buck/

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BOHNTR
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Jan-05-17, 
07:25 PM (MST)
20. "RE: Next World record"

In today's technological world, the Burris buck will never be broken.

BOHNTR )))---------->

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Jan-06-17, 
07:57 AM (MST)
22. "RE: Next World record"

I would say it will be broken, lot of monsters shot each year. Sure lot of people watching the "big" bucks year round. However it only takes one buck to break record. Look at the spider bull. The years leading up to that bull how many people seriously thought a bull that big would be taken.

Mntman

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Longun
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Jan-06-17, 
08:09 AM (MST)
23. "RE: Next World record"

It will be broken......I'm workin' on it....HEHEHE

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Jan-06-17, 
08:11 AM (MST)
24. "RE: Next World record"

mntman asked, "The years leading up to that bull how many people seriously thought a bull that big would be taken."

At least an elk farmer or two...


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

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Jan-06-17, 
10:24 AM (MST)
25. "RE: Next World record"

Genetic and age then one good year where all the stars line up weather,feed,minerals,etc and it will be broken. IMO

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Jan-06-17, 
02:03 PM (MST)
26. "RE: Next World record"

>mntman asked, "The years leading up
>to that bull how many
>people seriously thought a bull
>that big would be taken."
>
>
>At least an elk farmer or
>two...
>
>


Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"

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marburg
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Jan-06-17, 
11:31 PM (MST)
27. "RE: Next World record"

Not in today's big money hunting game. Guides setting out hundreds of cameras, flying units, paying bounty's for giant bucks, shed hunting becoming big business. A new record wont happen, we are watching the destruction of the western wildlife model.

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elkassassin
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Jan-07-17, 
06:31 AM (MST)
28. "RE: Next World record"

>Not in today's big money hunting
>game. Guides setting out
>hundreds of cameras, flying units,
>paying bounty's for giant bucks,
>shed hunting becoming big business.
> A new record wont
>happen, we are watching the
>destruction of the western wildlife
>model.

What marburg says is True also!

"He's Only a 185" Typical"!

We Should Let Him Grow!

But Since We can get 12K out of Him Let's Kill Him!

The Typical Record Will Be Broken!


It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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Jan-09-17, 
08:32 PM (MST)
29. "RE: Next World record"

Yes, I think there will be a bigger buck than the Burris buck taken. It might take 50 years but I think a bigger typical will happen. The nontypical world record is leas likely to be broken but I wouldn't be too surprised if it happens.

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Jan-19-17, 
06:30 PM (MST)
38. "RE: Next World record"

>Not in today's big money hunting
>game. Guides setting out
>hundreds of cameras, flying units,
>paying bounty's for giant bucks,
>shed hunting becoming big business.
> A new record wont
>happen, we are watching the
>destruction of the western wildlife
>model.


X2

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toklat
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Jan-10-17, 
04:24 PM (MST)
30. "RE: Next World record"

Lee's Meat Buck (Lee Spurgeon's) typical buck killed in Colorado some year's back and ultimately gifted to Kirt Darner may have exceeded or given the Burris buck a run for it's money! Reference "Lee's Meat Buck" on the net for for an interesting read.
Apparently the buck was rejected by B and C but details on whom submitted it and reasons for rejection are not privy to public scrutiny. Unfortunate this Buck is not recognized on it's own merit and the habitat that produced it regardless of the hunter who harvested or who submitted it as the B and C Club was established to recognize.

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Homer
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Jan-10-17, 
07:21 PM (MST)
31. "RE: Next World record"

The only reason B&C didn't accept Lee's meat buck is because Darner owns it......and submitted it.

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Jan-10-17, 
08:05 PM (MST)
33. "RE: Next World record"

>The only reason B&C didn't accept
>Lee's meat buck is because
>Darner owns it......and submitted it.
>

Did He Try & Tell B&C that He Shot it?


It Was them Damn Lake Trout that took them Elk
out!

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toklat
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Jan-11-17, 
10:20 AM (MST)
34. "RE: Next World record"

Homer, maybe B and C should look past who owns Lee's buck, not acknowledge Darner in any manner as he had nothing to do with its harvest and acknowledge the buck on its own merit and the habitat that produced it and Lee Spurgeon as the Hunter? Isn't that what B and C stands for in its platform?
Other similar instances of trophies have been submitted by other than the hunter and accepted them into the records. The buck should be given its due credit independent and irregardless of who submitted it. In this case, possibly the messenger aka submitter (Darner) should be waived as the saying goes!Give the animal it's due credit based on its own merit.
I am sure many other Hunter's out there would really like to know what this typical scored, myself included.

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Jan-10-17, 
07:23 PM (MST)
32. "RE: Next World record"

http://www.monstermuleys.com/cgi-bin/stories/site.pl?page=meatbuck&tem=th

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Homer
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Jan-11-17, 
01:33 PM (MST)
35. "RE: Next World record"

toklat,

Anything from Darner is suspect and unacceptable. His dishonest actions with B&C sealed that deal. If someone else were to own it and submit it, I'm sure it would be reviewed, researched....probably exrayed....and if found to be legit.....accepted.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
- H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

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toklat
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Jan-11-17, 
03:59 PM (MST)
36. "RE: Next World record"

Homer, my point exactly. We are on the same page. The buck should be recognized on its own merit.
Darner did not harvest it and the buck should not be penalized for it. Hopefully it does change hands and some "respectable" individual does enter it albeit every year that goes by it is subject to nominal shrinkage.

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Jan-19-17, 
04:55 PM (MST)
37. "RE: Next World record"

IMO, it will be broken because of all the technology.

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tx_packmule
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Jan-22-17, 
04:09 PM (MST)
39. "RE: Next World record"

>IMO, it will be broken because
>of all the technology.
>
>


I'd bet it's broken bc of management of private land (and the ability to hold people off certain deer) with that I'll have to go with TX or KS.

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