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BIGJOHNT
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Mar-01-17, 
12:34 PM (MST)
"Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-17 AT 12:38 PM (MST)

It even made it on Monster Muley ! Read the article. https://www.gohunt.com/read/news/one-of-idahos-most-impressive-mule-deer-from-2015-poached#gs.pebUE4A

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Another on...  crownroyal      Mar-01-17   1 
  RE: Another on...  MIG      Mar-01-17   2 
   RE: Another on...  BIGJOHNT      Mar-01-17   3 
    RE: Another on...  Utah400Elk      Mar-01-17   4 
     RE: Another on...  6x7      Mar-01-17   5 
      RE: Another on...  Retterath      Mar-01-17   7 
     RE: Another on...  Retterath      Mar-01-17   6 
      RE: Another on...  elkassassin      Mar-01-17   8 
      RE: Another on...  Utah400Elk      Mar-01-17   9 
       RE: Another on...  Cooper      Mar-01-17   10 
       RE: Another on...  MIG      Mar-01-17   11 
       RE: Another on...  huntin50      Mar-01-17   12 
        RE: Another on...  elkassassin      Mar-01-17   13 
         RE: Another on...  Cooper      Mar-01-17   14 
         RE: Another on...  tracker12      Mar-01-17   16 
        RE: Another on...  2_Point      Mar-01-17   15 
         RE: Another on...  Gauge86      Mar-01-17   17 
          RE: Another on...  BIGJOHNT      Mar-01-17   18 
           RE: Another on...  cannonball      Mar-01-17   19 
           RE: Another on...  huntin50      Mar-01-17   20 
 RE: Another on...  kickerbuck      Mar-01-17   21 
  RE: Another on...  D6native      Mar-01-17   22 
   RE: Another on...  ridgetops      Mar-02-17   23 
    RE: Another on...  mntman      Mar-02-17   24 
     RE: Another on...  Squirrel      Mar-02-17   25 
      RE: Another on...  mntman      Mar-02-17   26 
      RE: Another on...  elkassassin      Mar-02-17   32 
       RE: Another on...  Squirrel      Mar-03-17   34 
 RE: Another on...  elkboy32      Mar-02-17   27 
  RE: Another on...  HalfAce      Mar-02-17   28 
 RE: Another on...  1911      Mar-02-17   29 
 RE: Another on...  wstrntines      Mar-02-17   30 
  RE: Another on...  BillyBoB      Mar-02-17   31 
   RE: Another on...  hornkiller      Mar-02-17   33 
    RE: Another on...  Wiszard      Mar-03-17   35 
     RE: Another on...  elkassassin      Mar-04-17   36 
      RE: Another on...  YELUM      Mar-04-17   37 
       RE: Another on...  Mnbearhunte...      Mar-06-17   38 
        RE: Another on...  tx_packmule      Mar-08-17   39 
        RE: Another on...  mntman      Mar-09-17   40 
         RE: Another on...  BrianID      Mar-09-17   41 

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crownroyal
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Mar-01-17, 
12:45 PM (MST)
1. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Should have been $50,000 and lifetime hunting ban

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MIG
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Mar-01-17, 
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2. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

What a bummer. So sad to see this..

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BIGJOHNT
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Mar-01-17, 
01:20 PM (MST)
3. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Yes that is to bad ! Maybe others will be more careful knowing there trophy can be taken away. Not really sure what the real story is ? Can't tell from the article. Did the dad hit the deer and his boy finished it off for him ? A magnificent buck !

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Utah400Elk
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Mar-01-17, 
01:27 PM (MST)
4. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

I want to get a jump on this one so...

BLAM!

The picture does not prove anything...
There is no evidence that a deer was even killed...
There is not even a crime...
Idaho sold one deer tag and one deer was taken, so this is not even poaching...

Did I miss any of the coming BS?

Glad they were exposed for the fraud and poaching!

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Mar-01-17, 
01:51 PM (MST)
5. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

It said the son shot the buck and put the dad's tag on it

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Mar-01-17, 
02:02 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

>It said the son shot the
>buck and put the dad's
>tag on it

If that's what happened I guess I dont believe that was right that his son shot it and then the dad tagged it.


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Retterath
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Mar-01-17, 
02:00 PM (MST)
6. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

So help me understand this. His dad shot this deer and did not make perfect shots so the son finished it off? If that's the case I don't think that is poaching! I bet 75% of the people on here would have done the same thing, if they were hunting right be each other and by not letting that wounded deer get away and die some where, instead he finished him off to help him out. If that is all correct that just helped him finish him off, I guess I don't agree with that case.

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elkassassin
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Mar-01-17, 
02:15 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Guess I'll Never Make the Magazines or be an MM Winner!

I'll Keep Huntin PISSCUTTERS & All is Well!

My Signature is a Short Clip of NVB & His Coal Roller!
"We Better Get out of the F'N Way cuzz Ole NVB is Coming to MF'N Town"!
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Utah400Elk
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Mar-01-17, 
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9. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

The article said

"It was crash and burn from the beginning, though Gary Nix didnít know it. The mule deer he was after was getting away and it was the last day of a late controlled deer hunt, he knew it was a big one. His son, Garrett, helped him kill the deer by shooting the trophy worthy mule deer buck that eventually, after multiple shots, died. The problem? Gary had a valid tag and permit; Garrett did not. Reports from some people with inside information said Gary kept missing the deer and his son then shot it."


The last line is key. It looks like dad kept missing and it was getting away on last day so son shot it. The article never said dad actually hi the deer. Only the son.

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Cooper
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Mar-01-17, 
02:44 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-17 AT 02:45 PM (MST)

That's what happens when you shoot monsters, no one gives a $hit if it's a 20 in buck

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MIG
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Mar-01-17, 
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11. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Even if the dad did hit the deer, the real question is why does his son have a rifle???? You know darn well he isn't going to shoot a coyote in that situation with his dad having a coveted deer tag on the last day of season.

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Mar-01-17, 
02:58 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-17 AT 03:04 PM (MST)

I have been told from a decent source, that his Dad shot and wounded the buck, and his son shot and killed it. I don't know how bad the buck was shot. To bad his Dad didn't make a little better shot. I also was told that the son shot the buck the last day, his Dad shot it the second to the last day. His son didn't want it to have a slow death.

This buck was not shot out of season. It was finished off, by the son, who didn't have the tag. If his Dad finished it off, all would have been legal.

I'm not saying this is the complete truth. I don't know anything about the two hunters. I'm not throwing any stones. I was told the hunters are not bad people. Too bad for the hunters and the buck.

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Mar-01-17, 
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13. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

If the Truth Be Known!

The B&C Book would only be half as Thick!

My Signature is a Short Clip of NVB & His Coal Roller!
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Mar-01-17, 
03:48 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Elk, I bet your right on that one

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Mar-01-17, 
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16. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

> If the Truth Be Known!
>
>
>The B&C Book would only be
>half as Thick!

probably a lot of truth to this.

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Mar-01-17, 
03:59 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-17 AT 03:59 PM (MST)

Oh boo freaking hoo, huntin. The most ridiculous statement of all is if the dad had finished it off it would be legal. No freaking crap. If they had followed the laws it would have been legal. They didn't follow the laws so it wasn't legal.


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Mar-01-17, 
04:14 PM (MST)
17. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

that is a shame, one of my favorite bucks killed that year too.

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Mar-01-17, 
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18. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

>that is a shame, one of
>my favorite bucks killed that
>year too.


Here a picture of the buck. Really something special.

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Mar-01-17, 
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19. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

From an O'Fart who, like most some years ago, party hunted. I feel for them. They were together and the Dad kept missing the deer, so the son shot the deer with his Dad at his side. Geez, fine them, but give them the head.

I wouldn't do it, but I am not going to condemn them. It would certainly be tempting to let my son shoot the deer.

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Mar-01-17, 
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20. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

2 point
I didn't make any excuses, nor did I say they didn't deserve punishment. When I said to bad his Dad didn't hit it better, if he did, they would have a buck of a lifetime to admire and good memories. Now they have a fine and punishment. And the antlers sold off probably or in a DWR office. If his boy didn't shoot it, it may have survived? or died and no found the antlers?

I think party hunting is wrong. Party hunting and shooting a wounded buck is wrong. Having a wounded buck go off and die a possible slow death is a bad deal also.

I would bet at least 90% of the hunters on this site have party hunted in the past or broken a law.

I'm OK with the fines and punishment.

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Mar-01-17, 
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21. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Those fines and loss of hunting privileges don't even come close to what should of been charged against both the son and dad. If the dad knew or let the son shoot at the deer he is just as guilty it's called aiding in a wildlife crime. They should of lost their hunting licenses for at least 3-5 years and the rifle used to illegally kill the buck. The head or horns would always be seized as evidence so either way they were going to lose the horns.

There is no place in for party hunting and people filling other people's tags! To me it's just as bad if it was a forked horn or small three point. Hunters should only fill their tag unless the law or regs specify different with some sort of disability or mentor option.

Sad deal that buck might have made it?

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Mar-01-17, 
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22. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

I don't agree with party hunting nor would I like to see a wounded animal lost . I think many members have helped a friend or family member dispatch an animal in one way or another. Seeking fame and notoriety is going well beyond.

I'm sure Tri will be along soon to make sense of all of this for us .

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Mar-02-17, 
02:19 AM (MST)
23. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"


they should have signed up for the mentor program.

Proud member of the Wolfpack!

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Mar-02-17, 
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24. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

no idea about this story till I seen it now.

In regards to the party hunting, its legal in states back east. I grew up where party hunting is legal and personally I don't think there is nothing wrong with it as long as both people have tags for the unit/season etc... Yes this guy didn't have a tag, so not sure why he was even in the unit carrying a gun in first place. That seems rather fishy to me... There may be more to this that warden couldn't prove.
anyway not starting rumors over it.

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Mar-02-17, 
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25. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"


My current situation precludes me from caring about your opinion but go ahead and give voice to it anyway...

Agreed mtn man party hunting is ILLEGAL... NOT WRONG. Ever apply for a Maine Moose?? You name your alternates right on the app.

If it would have been a bessy pisscutter nary a word would have been spoken by anybody. But I guarantee you the bunny cops wanted that head in their office at least as bad as those bozo's did, and they got it.

Nothing unusual about the overall story though, when you scream "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!'...sometimes they do just that.

The whole story would be interesting to hear, lots of missing pieces and lots of "spin" in what I've read so far.

Must have been measured with a Utah tape to get 240+ though...

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Mar-02-17, 
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26. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

squirrel, same way in MN. In 1995 my dad, brother and myself were all on one tag for one moose (party hunting). Also, can shoot multiple deer/bucks as long as the other member is hunting at same time.

starting a new topic... sorry..There are many things I don't agree with in hunting that are legal that I don't agree with but sure won't try and stop people from doing. example running deer with dogs in southeast, shooting 1000 yards, hunting bears in their dens or right as they come out, can go on and on. We all grew up in different areas with different traditions/laws but we are all hunters.

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32. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

>
>My current situation precludes me from
>caring about your opinion but
>go ahead and give voice
>to it anyway...
>
>Agreed mtn man party hunting is
>ILLEGAL... NOT WRONG.
>Ever apply for a Maine
>Moose?? You name your alternates
>right on the app.
>
>If it would have been a
>bessy pisscutter nary a word
>would have been spoken by
>anybody. But I guarantee
>you the bunny cops wanted
>that head in their office
>at least as bad as
>those bozo's did, and they
>got it.
>
> Nothing unusual about the overall
>story though, when you scream
>"LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT
>ME!'...sometimes they do just that.
>
>
>The whole story would be interesting
>to hear, lots of missing
>pieces and lots of "spin"
>in what I've read so
>far.
>
>Must have been measured with a
>Utah tape to get 240+
>though...

Hey Squirrel!

That's an MM 240"ER!


My Signature is a Short Clip of NVB & His Coal Roller!
"We Better Get out of the F'N Way cuzz Ole NVB is Coming to MF'N Town"!
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Mar-03-17, 
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34. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-17 AT 08:56 AM (MST)

>>
>>My current situation precludes me from
>>caring about your opinion but
>>go ahead and give voice
>>to it anyway...
>>
>>Agreed mtn man party hunting is
>>ILLEGAL... NOT WRONG.
>>Ever apply for a Maine
>>Moose?? You name your alternates
>>right on the app.
>>
>>If it would have been a
>>bessy pisscutter nary a word
>>would have been spoken by
>>anybody. But I guarantee
>>you the bunny cops wanted
>>that head in their office
>>at least as bad as
>>those bozo's did, and they
>>got it.
>>
>> Nothing unusual about the overall
>>story though, when you scream
>>"LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT
>>ME!'...sometimes they do just that.
>>
>>
>>The whole story would be interesting
>>to hear, lots of missing
>>pieces and lots of "spin"
>>in what I've read so
>>far.
>>
>>Must have been measured with a
>>Utah tape to get 240+
>>though...
>
>Hey Squirrel!
>
>That's an MM 240"ER!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>My Signature is a Short Clip
>of NVB & His Coal
>Roller!
>"We Better Get out of the
>F'N Way cuzz Ole NVB
>is Coming to MF'N Town"!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3_B2Uf9LKQ



My current situation precludes me from caring about your opinion but go ahead and give voice to it anyway...

I'm as guilty of ground shrinkage as the next guy but comes a time (when it is ON THE GROUND) to measure and add and let chips fall where they may. Of course they were a bit less than truthful in other aspects during their "publicity tour"...

Poachers are like fish, they only get caught if they open their mouth.

I hope the sermon wasn't based on "bearing false witness" on that non-hunting Sunday.

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Mar-02-17, 
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27. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

A little more info I picked up on the story.

The father shot a buck on Saturday, wounding it and not finding it. The next day, a Sunday, they attended church and did not go out looking for the buck.

On Monday, the last day of the season, they were driving up to look for the wounded buck when they saw this guy. Garrett had picked up the sheds from Porky the year before, so he knew the deer.

Finally, Garrett also stumbled upon a 200 inch deadhead that spring in the area of the wounded first buck.... Coincidence?

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Mar-02-17, 
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28. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

So between the two of them, they killed 5 mule deer bucks in Idaho that year. Garrett killing three. Greedy much?

Not allowing Garrett to hunt for three years isn't much of a punishment seeing how he got to kill enough mule deer in one year to average killing one every year for the three years he's not allowed to hunt.

I understand the intrigue behind wanting to take a book caliber buck, but these guy's were doing it for the wrong reasons.

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29. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Another attention whore goes down at his own hand.

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30. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

That buck was a tank probably one of my all time favorite deer. I was hoping it was a legal kill. Well hopefully both hunters learn a valuable lesson and turn out to be better sportsman in the future.

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31. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

LAST EDITED ON Mar-02-17 AT 05:51 PM (MST)

I've had an opportunity to party hunt before but chose not to because it's against the law.

Brother had a spike tag and I had a cow elk tag. My brother was running late to meet me where I had set up camp.
Our hunts had already began.
So instead of waiting at camp for my brother, I went out to look for a cow.
Sun was going down and I spotted a small group of elk. All five were spikes and within range. I could have easily dropped one and waited for my brother to put his tag on it. But I chose not to.

We both ended up not tagging out.

Some claim these two weren't poaching. If it's illegal, it is poaching.


"Wildlife and its habitat cannot speak. So
we must and we will."
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33. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

No way this really happened! Where is tristate he will figure it out!

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Wiszard
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Mar-03-17, 
10:23 PM (MST)
35. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

+1 on what 1911 said. Regardless of what happened or how it happened, if they didn't "brag" about killing the deer, they'd be hunting next year. Too bad the Dad didn't make a good shot on this buck. The hunt should be more important than the harvest. I will never lose sight of that and I'll teach my son the same.

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Mar-04-17, 
05:27 AM (MST)
36. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

In Church on Sunday for 1/2 a Day!

And Doing as They Please 6-1/2 Days the Rest of the Week!

We Got Lots of them around here like that!

Kills Me!

Alot of them on Sundays as they're going to Church Won't even Wave at you!

WTH is up with that?

My Signature is a Short Clip of NVB & His Coal Roller!
"We Better Get out of the F'N Way cuzz Ole NVB is Coming to MF'N Town"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3_B2Uf9LKQ

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YELUM
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Mar-04-17, 
04:43 PM (MST)
37. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

Oh,they're waving Bess. You're just so used to seeing it that you don't even notice the finger any more.

Yelum

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Mnbearhunter123
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Mar-06-17, 
07:34 PM (MST)
38. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

I grew up in MN around party hunting. I really don't care for it. It increases hunting success rates to a level that is damaging to overall herd health. It's often abused with adults filling youth tags and it promotes poaching through the use of kitchen tags. 10 or so years ago, for a short stint, the state of MN offered an all season tag where the tag holder could shoot 1 buck and 2 does and hunt every open season. After the tag was installed, the amount of female hunters in the state dropped by an incredible margin. Basically guys didn't need to buy their non hunter spouse a tag. The data produced by that event has been studied by countless wildlife agencies country wide. Every kitchen tag filled represented a poached deer. Party hunting is meant to promote hunting together with friends and family.. however ...Very often a lone guy goes out and shoots deer and then calls up a non-hunter license holder to drive out and tag it. In my area it's probably the most common type of poaching committed. And, it's committed almost entirely by resident local hunters who feel safe in their own backyards.

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tx_packmule
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Mar-08-17, 
09:09 PM (MST)
39. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

We party hunt like a mofo here on permits, but it's a numbers game on particular tracts.


People do crazy/stupid/out of character things when big deer (and/or sheep) are involved.

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mntman
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Mar-09-17, 
08:40 AM (MST)
40. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

>I grew up in MN around
>party hunting. I really
>don't care for it.
>It increases hunting success rates
>to a level that is
>damaging to overall herd health.
> It's often abused with
>adults filling youth tags and
>it promotes poaching through the
>use of kitchen tags.
>10 or so years ago,
>for a short stint, the
>state of MN offered an
>all season tag where the
>tag holder could shoot 1
>buck and 2 does and
>hunt every open season.
>After the tag was installed,
>the amount of female hunters
>in the state dropped by
>an incredible margin. Basically
>guys didn't need to buy
>their non hunter spouse a
>tag. The data produced
>by that event has been
>studied by countless wildlife agencies
>country wide. Every kitchen tag
>filled represented a poached deer.
>Party hunting is meant to
>promote hunting together with friends
>and family.. however ...Very often
>a lone guy goes out
>and shoots deer and then
>calls up a non-hunter license
>holder to drive out and
>tag it. In my
>area it's probably the most
>common type of poaching committed.
>And, it's committed almost entirely
>by resident local hunters who
>feel safe in their own
>backyards.

I find it just the opposite, the people I know in MN often make the rule that youth tags are off limits. Kids fill their own tags. Also we always said everyone gets their own tag filled unless they ask for someone to help.

Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"

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BrianID
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Mar-09-17, 
04:53 PM (MST)
41. "RE: Another one taken with a little help"

A sad situation. I think the fines and punishment are appropriate in this situation. That is just me though.
The son should have watched the buck limp off without shooting and assisted his dad in other ways. If his dad's gun was empty, then the son should have handed his gun to his dad to finish it off. I think there is more to this story than any of us really know.
I have no problem with two guys shooting at the same buck as long as they both have valid tags and intend on putting their tag on the deer if they hit it.
I've shot at the same buck as my brother on more than one occasion but we both had tags in our pocket with the intention of putting our tag on the buck.
In one situation my brother and I were separated by 400 yards. My brother hit the buck and I missed. The buck went over a hill out of his view but it was laying sick about 150 yards from me. I didn't like watching it suffer and I really thought about finishing it off for him. Even though I had my own tag in my pocket, I still waited for my brother to make his way over to me so he could finish it off. Party hunting is against the law in Idaho and you have to follow the law.
What this father and son did was wrong, but it isn't the same as shooting a buck without a valid tag.
What if they both had a valid tag for the buck? Who would have a problem with the son assisting his dad?

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