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runamuk
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"Best guess?"

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-17 AT 04:48 PM (MST)

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Got this buck last year, haven't scored him, just wondering what some of you think he might score.
I was by myself when I got him so didn't get any good field photos.



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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Best guess?  buckspotter7      Jun-11-17   1 
  RE: Best guess?  buckspotter7      Jun-11-17   2 
   RE: Best guess?  buckspotter7      Jun-11-17   3 
    RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-11-17   4 
   RE: Best guess?  Wapitiwilly      Jun-11-17   5 
    RE: Best guess?  ridgetops      Jun-11-17   6 
 RE: Best guess?  rmanwill      Jun-11-17   7 
  RE: Best guess?  shootem      Jun-11-17   8 
   RE: Best guess?  2lumpy      Jun-11-17   9 
    RE: Best guess?  DW      Jun-11-17   10 
     RE: Best guess?  nontypical      Jun-11-17   11 
      RE: Best guess?  2lumpy      Jun-11-17   12 
       RE: Best guess?  HiMtnHntr      Jun-11-17   13 
 RE: Best guess?  Houndsman77      Jun-11-17   14 
  RE: Best guess?  liecabucks      Jun-11-17   15 
 RE: Best guess?  Chacoblue777      Jun-12-17   16 
  RE: Best guess?  junior      Jun-12-17   17 
   RE: Best guess?  ICMDEER      Jun-12-17   18 
    RE: Best guess?  goldhunter      Jun-12-17   19 
     RE: Best guess?  DesertGhill...      Jun-12-17   20 
      RE: Best guess?  Cheater      Jun-12-17   21 
       RE: Best guess?  BillyBoB      Jun-12-17   22 
        RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-12-17   23 
        RE: Best guess?  300MIKE      Jun-12-17   24 
 RE: Best guess?  oilcan      Jun-12-17   25 
  RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-12-17   26 
   RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-12-17   27 
    RE: Best guess?  liecabucks      Jun-12-17   29 
    RE: Best guess?  elkassassin      Jun-12-17   30 
     RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-12-17   32 
      RE: Best guess?  elkassassin      Jun-12-17   33 
       RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-13-17   36 
   RE: Best guess?  BrianID      Jun-12-17   28 
 RE: Best guess?  GLEDEASY      Jun-12-17   31 
 RE: Best guess?  oilcan      Jun-12-17   34 
  RE: Best guess?  runamuk      Jun-12-17   35 
 RE: Best guess?  Joe2Kool      Jun-19-17   37 
 RE: Best guess?  wapitiman      Jun-25-17   38 

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buckspotter7
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Jun-11-17, 
04:51 PM (MST)
1. "RE: Best guess?"

Great tine length, good mass, main beams a little short. Awesome buck! Score-172 ish

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Jun-11-17, 
04:52 PM (MST)
2. "RE: Best guess?"

Sorry, didn't see second pic. Amended score - 180 ish

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Jun-11-17, 
05:05 PM (MST)
3. "RE: Best guess?"

Now I'm a little embarrassed. I love the guess the score pics. Now that the third pic is up and gives a little something more to go on. Back down to 170 ish, nice buck. I guess it's a good thing I don't go by buck"scorer"7

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runamuk
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Jun-11-17, 
05:11 PM (MST)
4. "RE: Best guess?"

LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-17 AT 05:23 PM (MST)

LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-17 AT 05:16 PM (MST)

Sorry bout that, took me awhile to get em all up.
Thanks for your input.

Can't seem to get the last photo to load.

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Wapitiwilly
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Jun-11-17, 
05:11 PM (MST)
5. "RE: Best guess?"

Solid 169🤔

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Jun-11-17, 
05:38 PM (MST)
6. "RE: Best guess?"

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I would think because of smallish inside spread and shorter than normal main beams, the buck would go 180 at best. Maybe closer to 175".

Get ready for change because it's going to happen!

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Jun-11-17, 
05:48 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Best guess?"

167

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shootem
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Jun-11-17, 
06:01 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Best guess?"

I agree that the main beams are on the shorter side but believe this buck is a solid 175" buck. Those g4's are impressive.

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Jun-11-17, 
08:10 PM (MST)
9. "RE: Best guess?"

I always thinking they are bigger. I'll concede that right up front. I'll estimate him at 182" gross, maybe more. I love those 4 long tines, his mass is deceiving, I think his mass might cost him more than his main beams, very nice eye guards. Short main beams, but not abnormally short. Average inside width.

I would never pass on that buck unless I knew for sure there were larger bucks in the area.

DC

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DW
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Jun-11-17, 
08:18 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Best guess?"

180

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Jun-11-17, 
08:35 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Best guess?"

180ish

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Jun-11-17, 
09:04 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Best guess?"

LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-17 AT 09:09 PM (MST)

Let me add just another comment.

runamuk, thanks for posting up those pictures. I think your buck is nearly a perfect buck, in my eyes. (we all have our on version of perfect antler confirmation)

That buck is just about perfectly symmetrical, as far as my standards are concerned, Height, in near perfect balance with his width. Hisg4 beams are almost exactly twice as long as his tines, which give his tines/beams near perfect balance, especially his g3 and g4s. If his left main beam was 2 or 3 inches longer, both of his front tines would be in perfect balance with his main beams too. The right side symmetry is stunning.

His mass is not huge but it is consistent, from it's base all the way to the top of the g4s, in that it tapers perfectly. It doesn't start out large and loose it at the top or have a lump of antler at the fork of the tines and the main beams, it just all flows together symmetrically.

If you compare this buck to the Boone and Crocket skull and antler configuration, which I suspect represents what B & C believe is the confirmation of an "ideal" typical, look how close this buck looks.

Personally, I think extra points, on a typical, are distractions. This buck is near smooth as bone, after the first 5 inches of his main beams.

Add 2 inches of curl, to his main beams and this may be a perfect typical mule deer buck.

I don't think you can do any better than that runamuk. The more I look at those images, the more I appreciate him. Thanks again.

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Jun-11-17, 
09:12 PM (MST)
13. "RE: Best guess?"

I'm in the 180 boat. Great buck!

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Houndsman77
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Jun-11-17, 
10:16 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Best guess?"

I would say 153 3/4 but I have been wrong before.

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liecabucks
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Jun-11-17, 
11:24 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Best guess?"

79" right 78" left 22" spread credit. 179 gross.


Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed to where the trail meets the sky...

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Chacoblue777
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Jun-12-17, 
01:38 AM (MST)
16. "RE: Best guess?"

Nice buck! The G-4's are special. I too would guess him to be around 178ish. Congrats on a great buck

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junior
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Jun-12-17, 
06:39 AM (MST)
17. "RE: Best guess?"

Mid to upper 170s

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Jun-12-17, 
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18. "RE: Best guess?"

I'd say mid 180's. I've got one that looks just like him but is a shade smaller and he's 180. And I've got another that looks real similar except for a couple of cheaters and he's 190+. So I'm sticking with the mid 180's.

Great buck. I'm curious where you got him. Just which state/province, nothing specific.

Thanks for sharing.

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goldhunter
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Jun-12-17, 
10:22 AM (MST)
19. "RE: Best guess?"

I'm going with low 180's, would like to see him with a touch more mass and width with corresponding main beam length and he would be "perfect", love those big typicals.

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Jun-12-17, 
10:31 AM (MST)
20. "RE: Best guess?"

LAST EDITED ON Jun-12-17 AT 10:37 AM (MST)

If it wasn't for the dink mains, I'd of said 180's, but you're probably looking at 174 gross. Mains are key, but still a sweet buck. Score means squat!

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Jun-12-17, 
11:42 AM (MST)
21. "RE: Best guess?"

High 170s

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Jun-12-17, 
12:20 PM (MST)
22. "RE: Best guess?"

I'd guess him to be in the high 160's or low 170's

If I had to give a number...Id say 168 3/8

Now have him measured and get back to us and let us know.
I love guessing scores


"Wildlife and its habitat cannot speak. So
we must and we will."
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runamuk
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Jun-12-17, 
02:53 PM (MST)
23. "RE: Best guess?"

Thanks everybody.
I've had several people tell me that's a 190 buck all day long, but I've thought all along that he was around 180/85 guess I'll have to get him scored some day.

Lumpy, That right there is the buck I've been in search of my entire hunting life, The more I look at him the more I appreciate him also.
thank you for your comments.

ICM, it's an Idaho buck,
Also it was a draw hunt.
I hadn't drawn any kind of tag here in Idaho for more than 30 years, then bingo
I drew this tag twice in three years.
I got a pretty nice buck outa there two years ago
It also was a perfect 4x4
Very similar to this one
But probably a 160 class buck.
I passed up a super wide
And heavy buck on opening day, then couldn't
Find another buck I wanted until the 3rd to the last day of the hunt, that's when I found this one and ended up taking him on the last day.
Thanks again everybody.


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300MIKE
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Jun-12-17, 
02:54 PM (MST)
24. "RE: Best guess?"

little short on the mains but I say he still cracks 180. Beautiful buck congrats.

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oilcan
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Jun-12-17, 
03:40 PM (MST)
25. "RE: Best guess?"

Come on Runamuk forget that some day we need answers. L0L
How about measure his G2 and his main beams that could help us out.
No offense but I don't see anyway he's 190 unless those pictures are very deceaveing.

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runamuk
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Jun-12-17, 
04:28 PM (MST)
26. "RE: Best guess?"

I don't know the first thing about taping out a buck but I'll give it a shot.

Stand by.

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runamuk
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Jun-12-17, 
05:02 PM (MST)
27. "RE: Best guess?"

Ok I pulled up a B&C score sheet
For instructions so I think I got these numbers right.

G-2 left- 17"4/8. Right 17"
Mains- both at 22"
G-4 both 12"
Greatest inside spread 22"4/8
Base's 5"4/8

Not sure if it's all right, but pretty sure it's all wit in a half inch.

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liecabucks
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Jun-12-17, 
05:29 PM (MST)
29. "RE: Best guess?"

Great buck, with better mass than he looks. I want one!


Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed to where the trail meets the sky...

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30. "RE: Best guess?"

>Ok I pulled up
>a B&C score sheet
>For instructions so I think I
>got these numbers right.
>
>G-2 left- 17"4/8. Right 17"
>
>Mains- both at 22"
>G-4 both 12"
>Greatest inside spread 22"4/8
>Base's 5"4/8
>
>Not sure if it's all right,
> but pretty sure it's
>all wit in a half
>inch.

Ya Know?

Without G-1,G-3,H-2,H-3 & H-4 Measurements I'm Having A Hell of a Time Scoring this Buck!

Nice No matter the Score runamuk!

Ah yes we have insider trading and computer dating but I never goin for that!
Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
I've got my own taste and my own ways I'd rather not talk about
and my private life is my private life and they ain't gonna find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OsWQNYfEYo

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runamuk
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Jun-12-17, 
06:39 PM (MST)
32. "RE: Best guess?"

I'd take the time to pull those measurements for ya bess but I'm scrambling to get packed up and out of town Tomorrow.
Heading to a secluded little known spot in AK. Called the Russian river.
Seams like I remember you wanting
To fish there and make a few thousand
New friends last time you were up there.

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Jun-12-17, 
07:01 PM (MST)
33. "RE: Best guess?"

>I'd take the time to pull
>those measurements for ya bess
> but I'm scrambling to
>get packed up and
>out of town Tomorrow.
>Heading to a secluded little known
>spot in AK. Called the
>Russian river.
>Seams like I remember you wanting
>
>To fish there and make a
>few thousand
>New friends last time you were
>up there.


LOL runamuk!

While You're up there & Only if you get time!

Will you Take a couple of Pics of the Signs them HOOK REMOVAL Clinics have out front posting How Many Hooks they've Removed out of TARDS?

Good Luck on the Fishing!

And NO Elbow to Elbow SNAGGIN!

Ah yes we have insider trading and computer dating but I never goin for that!
Ain't no machine pickin out my Queen cause it may not have all the facts!
I've got my own taste and my own ways I'd rather not talk about
and my private life is my private life and they ain't gonna find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OsWQNYfEYo

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runamuk
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Jun-13-17, 
09:38 PM (MST)
36. "RE: Best guess?"

>>I'd take the time to pull
>>those measurements for ya bess
>> but I'm scrambling to
>>get packed up and
>>out of town Tomorrow.
>>Heading to a secluded little known
>>spot in AK. Called the
>>Russian river.
>>Seams like I remember you wanting
>>
>>To fish there and make a
>>few thousand
>>New friends last time you were
>>up there.
>
>
>LOL runamuk!
>
>While You're up there & Only
>if you get time!
>
>Will you Take a couple of
>Pics of the Signs them
>HOOK REMOVAL Clinics have out
>front posting How Many Hooks
>they've Removed out of TARDS?
>
>
>Good Luck on the Fishing!
>
>And NO Elbow to Elbow SNAGGIN!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Ah yes we
>have insider trading and computer
>dating but I never goin
>for that!
>Ain't no machine pickin out my
>Queen cause it may not
>have all the facts!
>I've got my own taste and
>my own ways I'd rather
>not talk about
>and my private life is my
>private life and they ain't
>gonna find out!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OsWQNYfEYo
>
>

Well...... I do my best to avoid goin' to them hook removal clinics, I hate being one of them TARDS!!
but if I make it to Soldotna I'll stop in and get some pics.


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BrianID
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Jun-12-17, 
05:20 PM (MST)
28. "RE: Best guess?"

That is a really nice looking buck. I would guess 181" gross. That would be a very hard buck to pass on with any tag.

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Jun-12-17, 
05:55 PM (MST)
31. "RE: Best guess?"

That's a sweet buck. Given the measurements you provided, my guess would be right about 180. I want one!

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Jun-12-17, 
07:20 PM (MST)
34. "RE: Best guess?"

With those measurements I'd guess 179-180 a Great looking Buck.

It's not impossible but very hard for a clean 4 point to break 190" with only 22" main beams in my opinion.

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runamuk
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Jun-12-17, 
07:39 PM (MST)
35. "RE: Best guess?"

Thanks oilcan,
And everybody else, I really do appreciate all the nice comments and thoughts on scores.

Hope everyone has a good year.

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Jun-19-17, 
06:46 PM (MST)
37. "RE: Best guess?"

Runamuk, you're toying with us! You have the B&C sheet, and you took half the measurements, just take the rest of 'em and add them up😁😁

Whatever the score, a very nice and symmetrical buck. Congrats.

😎😎

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Jun-25-17, 
04:59 PM (MST)
38. "RE: Best guess?"

I'm shootin him all day... I'd say right closee to 180 though.

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