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mallard14
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Aug-13-17, 
03:36 PM (MST)
"Points for Scoring"

What is everyone's opinion on which point on the deer's right antler is the G4 and which one is the non-typical point?



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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Points for...  JakeH      Aug-13-17   1 
  RE: Points for...  Tristate      Aug-14-17   2 
   RE: Points for...  mallard14      Aug-14-17   3 
    RE: Points for...  N_Corey      Aug-14-17   4 
     RE: Points for...  nripepi      Aug-14-17   5 
      RE: Points for...  mallard14      Aug-14-17   6 
       RE: Points for...  Homer      Aug-14-17   7 
        RE: Points for...  mallard14      Aug-14-17   8 
        RE: Points for...  huntin50      Aug-14-17   9 
         RE: Points for...  mallard14      Aug-14-17   10 
       RE: Points for...  nripepi      Aug-14-17   11 
        RE: Points for...  Homer      Aug-15-17   12 
         RE: Points for...  BOHNTR      Aug-15-17   13 
 RE: Points for...  BrowningRage      Aug-15-17   14 

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JakeH
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Aug-13-17, 
09:45 PM (MST)
1. "RE: Points for Scoring"

I would call the big long one the G4, and the smaller 6-7 inch tine the extra.


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Tristate
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Aug-14-17, 
06:27 AM (MST)
2. "RE: Points for Scoring"

No need to ask anyone else. It's never going to make B&C. It's your deer, and a dandy. Score it either way and pic the highest number. Congratulations.

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mallard14
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Aug-14-17, 
10:41 AM (MST)
3. "RE: Points for Scoring"

Its actually a bow kill. It does make P&Y but I don't really care about that. The typical score I got was 149 3/8 and they scored it as nontypical and it was like 178 5/8". I know there are way too many deductions on the 3 side. (they counted the longer 12" point as the non-typical point). I just see it the other way. In reality it doesn't matter and I don't care about the number. Widest spread is 38 1/8" and the bases are 5+ inches. If both sides matched the four with zero deductions it would have scored 209 3/8" with an inside spread credit of 28 3/8".

I was just curious on others opinion. To to me the smaller point on the end is the abnormal point. Either way it is an old mature deer that I would shoot everytime I got the chance.

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Aug-14-17, 
11:09 AM (MST)
4. "RE: Points for Scoring"

Definitely the shorter point on the right side would be the extra. It's hard to tell for sure in the pictures but it looks like you could call that it's mainbeam also with just an abnormal bump on the end.

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Aug-14-17, 
02:03 PM (MST)
5. "RE: Points for Scoring"

LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-17 AT 02:04 PM (MST)

I think the issue is that the shorter point is broken, if not broken it is likely the main beam. I think I would call it the main beam which obviously reduces the net score. Nets are for Fish! It doesn't matter as it is a great buck, just go by gross score.

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Aug-14-17, 
03:11 PM (MST)
6. "RE: Points for Scoring"

>LAST EDITED ON Aug-14-17
>AT 02:04 PM (MST)

>
>I think the issue is that
>the shorter point is broken,
>if not broken it is
>likely the main beam.
>I think I would call
>it the main beam which
>obviously reduces the net score.
> Nets are for Fish!
> It doesn't matter as
>it is a great buck,
>just go by gross score.
>


I agree the broken point is the main beam. The question I had was the next two points. Which is G4 and which is the nontypical?

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Homer
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Aug-14-17, 
04:05 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Points for Scoring"

that left MB is over 28" long??

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mallard14
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Aug-14-17, 
04:17 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Points for Scoring"

Sorry that was my bad on a typo. That was supposed to be 27 3/8" spread credit. Thats what they measured his left main beam at.

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Aug-14-17, 
04:17 PM (MST)
9. "RE: Points for Scoring"

The side view looks like the main beam is broken to me. Nice buck . Congrats.

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Aug-14-17, 
04:18 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Points for Scoring"

Yes the right main beam is broken off. Probably about 3-4 inches broken off.

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Aug-14-17, 
06:47 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Points for Scoring"

I see the question now, I would think it is the one along the main beam that is the closest to the distance on the opposite main beam where the fork starts.

I am not a B&C scorer, so perhaps they do it differently where they give you the least amount of credit possible because they like symmetry so much?

I still do not understand why symmetry is so important to them, I think you should just go gross typical and non-typical score. I have two bucks that don't make the 5-year awards because of symmetry, oooh well!

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Homer
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Aug-15-17, 
12:02 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Points for Scoring"

As an OM.....I would use the long point as the g4 and the short point at the end of the broken MB as the abnormal point..and obviously there is no g3.

The long point more matches the g4 on the left antler...in both length and position on the MB.

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Aug-15-17, 
12:27 PM (MST)
13. "RE: Points for Scoring"

I agree with JB....it seems (based on the photo) to line up better with the left side G4.

Just a thought.....the measurer MAY have used the longer point as the abnormal point in order to have enough abnormal points required for the non-typical classification in P&Y??? The requirement for a non-typical mule deer is that it must meet the minimum net score of 170" AND have at least 12.5" of abnormal points.

Either way.....cool looking antler configuration.

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Aug-15-17, 
03:46 PM (MST)
14. "RE: Points for Scoring"

I'd only care about the GROSS score anyway...

Having said that, when you think about the way antlers are scored, it makes sense they would count the "inline" as the non-typical. You first have to identify the Main beam which is unfortunately the short part off the front fork there. The eye brow is the G1, then the G2 is the long back one (14"?). Since that tine is missing a fork, there is no G3. The G4 branches off of the main beam (7"?) and that leaves the non-typical, extra inline tine between the G2 and the G4. Hence the large deduction.

That's a dandy buck that I wouldn't be passing up though..!!

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