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JT
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Sep-18-17, 
00:08 AM (MST)
"Stupid question"

Just thought I'd ask what you guys consider a 30 inch buck. Last year I killed a buck that measures 27 inches on his main beam (outside). He also measures just over 30 inches from his right side G3 down to his left main (outside). I guess I'm asking is he a 30 inch buck or 27 inch buck?? Either way he's a great buck.

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Stupid que...  elkassassin      Sep-18-17   1 
 RE: Stupid que...  walleye1121      Sep-18-17   2 
  RE: Stupid que...  shepherd      Sep-18-17   4 
 RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-18-17   3 
 RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-18-17   5 
  RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-18-17   6 
   RE: Stupid que...  shepherd      Sep-18-17   7 
   RE: Stupid que...  pookiebar      Sep-18-17   8 
    RE: Stupid que...  fullthrottle      Sep-18-17   9 
 RE: Stupid que...  BrowningRage      Sep-18-17   10 
 RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-18-17   11 
  RE: Stupid que...  trophymuley      Sep-18-17   12 
   RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-19-17   13 
    RE: Stupid que...  buckhorn      Sep-19-17   14 
   RE: Stupid que...  BrowningRage      Sep-19-17   15 
    RE: Stupid que...  trophymuley      Sep-19-17   17 
 RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-19-17   16 
  RE: Stupid que...  trophymuley      Sep-19-17   18 
   RE: Stupid que...  upsidethehe...      Sep-20-17   19 
    RE: Stupid que...  6x7      Sep-20-17   20 
     RE: Stupid que...  JT      Sep-20-17   21 

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elkassassin
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Sep-18-17, 
04:25 AM (MST)
1. "RE: Stupid question"

I Think in your Last Sentence You Answered Your Own Question!

"Either way he's a great buck"

I Like 30"ers as much as anyone!

But The 'Inch' Thing has been out of hand for many Moons!

Back Me Off to 1,700 Yards,650 is a Little Close & I'm Not Comfortable with it!

A GUT SHOT at 1,700 Yards will Still Make Some Good BRAGGIN Rights so I Can Say I At Least Hit Him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OsWQNYfEYo

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walleye1121
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Sep-18-17, 
06:31 AM (MST)
2. "RE: Stupid question"

It is generally a reference to the outside spread.
Not all big bucks are 30 wide though. And some real ugly bucks are.

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shepherd
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Sep-18-17, 
08:36 AM (MST)
4. "RE: Stupid question"

For the widest actual spread you'd probably just want to stay "parallel" to the eyes/skull with the widest parts left and right. If you're looking for a high number, wrap your tape around the top of the left g3, go down, make a loop around the tip of the right main beam, then back up to the right g2. That should give you a good "MM" 30 incher.

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JT
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Sep-18-17, 
08:34 AM (MST)
3. "RE: Stupid question"

Yeah, he is a great buck in my option, but the first thing a guy will ask is how wide is he?

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JT
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Sep-18-17, 
08:40 AM (MST)
5. "RE: Stupid question"

Yeah, he is a great buck in my opinion, but the first thing a guy will ask is "how wide is he"? http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos_2017/43985img0011

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JT
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Sep-18-17, 
09:17 AM (MST)
6. "RE: Stupid question"

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shepherd
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Sep-18-17, 
09:23 AM (MST)
7. "RE: Stupid question"

Nice, big frame on that guy. Congratulations.

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Sep-18-17, 
10:27 AM (MST)
8. "RE: Stupid question"

That buck is harder to get the max outside spread because he's a 3x4. But basically you would tape home from the two widest spots that are parallel on the rack. Doesn't mean points exactly. Just the widest area on the rack.

I'm not sure that buck breaks 30. But who really cares. He's nice.

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fullthrottle
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Sep-18-17, 
10:38 AM (MST)
9. "RE: Stupid question"

27" nice buck. Inches are overrated. They give you a good idea, but there are some monster bucks that don't score worth a crap.

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BrowningRage
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Sep-18-17, 
12:32 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Stupid question"

It used to be whatever the "squared-up" and widest measurement was. For example, if a box is 30" wide, could you set the skull and antlers straight down inside it and and have it touch both sides? That'd be a 30" buck.

Take no shame in calling your buck a 27" buck. I have a 26 1/8" buck I killed in the Book Cliffs last year, and another 27 6/8" buck on my wall. I only refer to them as 26" and 27" wide... No need to fudge it anymore than that. They are both great bucks. Plus, all the "inches" that get used, I only use them as a reference to what a buck might look like.

One buck I chased with my bow in the Book Cliffs last year was a 170" 4x4. For most guys, that sounds like quite a nice buck. But, if I described the same buck by another of his measurements- "I chased a 20" 4x4 in the Book Cliffs" then suddenly a lot of guys are saying, that's not that big. Same Buck. My point is that even measurements don't tell the tale of the tape really... And they certainly DO NOT tell the tale of the adventure..!!

Nice buck my friend..!!

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24

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JT
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Sep-18-17, 
08:40 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Stupid question"

Thanks for all your comments! I totally agree that there are some really great bucks taken that don't score well and aren't that so called magical 30 incher. Don't get me wrong I'd love to get one, but as we all know that's easier said than done..... thanks again and good luck, let's kill some toads!!!'

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Sep-18-17, 
10:22 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Stupid question"

As an official Boone and Crockett Measurer I can tell you the exact way you're supposed to measure spread. Take the skull and place it parallel on the ground with the widest point of one side touching a level wall, the skull should be parallel to the wall and horizontally level. get a level out and touch it to the widest point on the opposite Antler with the BubbleLevel. the two widest points don't necessarily have to be the same point. On a deer, it could be the G4 and the g2 as the two widest points. You just measure a straight line from where the level touches the antler to the wall. That is your outside spread

Hope this helps

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JT
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Sep-19-17, 
07:59 AM (MST)
13. "RE: Stupid question"

Cool Thanks! I'll do that tonight and maybe post a pic.

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Sep-19-17, 
09:46 AM (MST)
14. "RE: Stupid question"

trophymuley nailed it
Great post

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Sep-19-17, 
01:04 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Stupid question"

That might be the best-looking 18" buck I've ever seen trophymuley..!!

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trophymuley
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Sep-19-17, 
09:45 PM (MST)
17. "RE: Stupid question"

Thanks. It's my uncles buck he smacked last muzzleloader hunt

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JT
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Sep-19-17, 
07:15 PM (MST)
16. "RE: Stupid question"

It's official 28 1/2-ish

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Sep-19-17, 
09:46 PM (MST)
18. "RE: Stupid question"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-17 AT 09:47 PM (MST)

There you have it! 28 5/8 Congrats on killing a good one

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Sep-20-17, 
08:04 AM (MST)
19. "RE: Stupid question"

Soak that skull n put a couple ratchet straps on 'im!! He ll make it! Kinda like jumping up n down on a 17-1/2" walleye to reach legal 18" length.

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Sep-20-17, 
09:08 PM (MST)
20. "RE: Stupid question"

My brother has a 190 and change 21" buck it's pretty neat

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JT
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Sep-20-17, 
09:22 PM (MST)
21. "RE: Stupid question"

Awesome!! I'd love to see a pic of that one.

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